Kirsan Ilyumzhinov Accused by USA of Helping ISIS

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  • #91
    Re: Nigel the Neo Fascist and his Propaganda

    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
    Hey Sid, you international relations genius! The UNSC (that includes the pure as driven snow US regime and the fiendishly evil Russian regime under the merciless iron heel of Vladimir "the impaler" Putin) just passed a unanimous resolution on Syria. That means that all this loud chatter about trading with this and that, Kirsan this, Syria that, is all water under the bridge. The US regime has capitulated in terms of their "line in the sand" about Assad, and it will be a matter of time now before the Byzantine Treasury Department gets the memo.

    This means that all the loathsome guilt by association thrown at Kirsan will vanish like, like, well like the wind. And the barking dogs will be able to do nothing to stop the caravan of chess.

    Damn, I'm really going to enjoy this.
    Sorry to disappoint you but the resolution has nothing to do with dropping sanctions against those involved with ISIS or for that matter dropping sanctions against any of Putin's buddies including your beloved Kirsan. I saved one of your first chess talk posts to me about a year and half ago where you tried to excuse Kirsan for murder by using your typical pseudo intellectual arguments of principals of moral equivalence citing that FIFA is suspected of murders also and that somehow this "minor difference" about Kirsan and murder should not influence my support of the CFC. 75 years ago the world fought a war to get rid of fascists like you that have the morals of a cockroach. It really is a pity that you have not done yourself a favor and to the rest of Canada for that matter and migrated to Russia.
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Tuesday, 22nd December, 2015, 02:34 PM.

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    • #92
      Sid the sub-Genius or Kirsan the Magnificent? Split the difference?

      C'mon Sid, this is way too easy.

      Yes, fighting dirty with you is like rolling in the mud with a pig. Fortunately, I'm a dirty fighter as well.

      Just shut up and take your losses. You're getting pounded and you don't even know it. I'm kinda embarrassed for you.
      Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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      • #93
        Nigel & Vlad, complete idiots or closet left-wing commies trying to make mommy proud?

        Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
        C'mon Sid, this is way too easy.

        Yes, fighting dirty with you is like rolling in the mud with a pig. Fortunately, I'm a dirty fighter as well.

        Just shut up and take your losses. You're getting pounded and you don't even know it. I'm kinda embarrassed for you.
        To quote Jeremy Clarkson here "When did people start mating with vegetables?" By the way Sid, fascists actually had the brains to organize build an army and survive a world war. Vlad and Nigel have the brains of a rock. Wait, that statement is showing bigotry towards a rock. Rocks at least are capable of at least supporting weight, Vlad and Nigel's brains are paper weights.
        Last edited by Frank Broughton; Tuesday, 22nd December, 2015, 05:37 PM.

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        • #94
          Nigel & Vlad, complete idiots or closet left-wing commies trying to make mommy proud?

          Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
          C'mon Sid, this is way too easy.

          Yes, fighting dirty with you is like rolling in the mud with a pig. Fortunately, I'm a dirty fighter as well.

          Just shut up and take your losses. You're getting pounded and you don't even know it. I'm kinda embarrassed for you.
          double post
          Last edited by Frank Broughton; Tuesday, 22nd December, 2015, 04:52 PM.

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          • #95
            Re: Nigel the Neo Fascist and his Propaganda

            Russia would deny them entry. Putin knows the difference between the misinformed and complete idiots.

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            • #96
              Re: Nigel & Vlad, complete idiots or closet left-wing commies trying to make mommy pr

              Originally posted by Frank Broughton View Post
              ... Vlad and Nigel's brains are paper weights.
              Like your own, perhaps?
              "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
              "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
              "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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              • #97
                Re: Kirsan Ilyumzhinov Accused by USA of Helping Syria...And possibly ISIS

                I guess all the appeals aren't going well for Kirsan?

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                • #98
                  "We have reliable evidence, but we would not show it to you because it is secret."

                  Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
                  I guess all the appeals aren't going well for Kirsan?
                  Appeals? Kirsan has been trying to sue the US Treasury and/or at least force that byzantine bureaucracy to provide some evidence of their scurrilous claims. Instead, fresh animal droppings from the US regime. I guess it's a good thing there is some continuity between the Obama regime and the current one, but byzantine bureaucratic bafflegab hardly suffices.

                  Anyway, there's an amusing piece on Kirsan's webpage which is very much worth reading. It's nice to see the empire mocked so vigorously.

                  The US Treasury is not able to justify sanctions against Ilyumzhinov

                  The official response of the Government Body, authorized to impose sanctions, to request of the President of FIDE Kirsan Ilyumzhinov is made in keeping with the best traditions of bureaucratic formal replies: a lot of pathos and no specifics.

                  In late November last year, the US Treasury announced the imposition of the personal sanctions against the President of the International Chess Federation Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. Let us recall that the US Treasury has not provided any clear explanation of repression; however, the fact that the United States have decided to punish the head of FIDE for his support of the legitimate (!) Government of the Syrian Arab Republic has caused, to put it mildly, surprise on the part of experts and politicians.
                  The failure of the US regime and its cabal of zealots to overthrow the elected government of Syria and bring the Syrian people all the blessings of civilization that they brought to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Yemen, Yugoslavia, etc., etc. must really chap their asses (to use a Texas expression), but picking on Kirsan seems, well, spiteful and childish.

                  Anyway, judge for yourself. An amusing read.

                  This is how, for example, the letter from the US Treasury worded the reason why the head of FIDE had been included into sanctions list:

                  "Kirsan Ilyumzhinov has provided financial assistance, sponsoring or providing financial, material or technological support for, and / or acted or purported act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, by the Government of Syria, the Central Bank of Syria, Adib Malayeha and / or Batul Reed."

                  You should pay attention to the dull vagueness of the wording: whether he has really acted or allegedly acted (there is a good saying on the matter: "even your grandma wouldn't know whether it'll be rain or snow)." That shows that US Treasury officials actually acknowledged the fact that they did not know for sure (!) whether Ilyumzhinov ‘directly or indirectly’ supported the government and the Central Bank of Syria. However, this did not prevent them to include the Russian policy-maker in the list of undesirable persons.

                  It seems that American officials absolutely fail to see the difference between the action and the alleged action. The main thing is missing - the proof of such action, or at least 'alleged action’? The information is gleaned partially from the press release of the very US Treasury and partially from two articles published by the British newspaper the Guardian in 2006 and 2014.
                  So the "evidence" consists of Treasury quoting themselves, a couple of articles from the Guardian which has, lately, taken to publishing the feverish ravings of Russophobe and neo-con Kasparov as well. Kasparov is well represented in the Treasury response to Kirsan's request for some evidence.

                  The piece also notes that Kasparov "consulted" the US on ... bombing Syria and overthrowing its President. Former US President Barak Obama, said Kasparov, was a "wimp" for not doing so. It's said the neo-cons never saw a war they didn't like.

                  Summing up, we cannot but admit that Kirsan Ilyumzhinov received a classic run-around devoid of any logic and full of far-fetched facts. However, we should pay attention to one clause in the preamble to the letter: "OFAC has either redacted or removed the portions of the documents that might contain trade secrets or do not comply with the Privacy Act of 1974" or are forbidden to be published according to other Acts. As they say: "We have reliable evidence, but we would not show it to you because it is secret."
                  One could be amused by this all if such ridiculous reasons had not formed the basis for creation of serious obstruction to the work of one of the largest international sports organizations, which is FIDE. The reply of the US Treasury to Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, the pathetic and delusional arguments demonstrate one thing only: the US officials do not want to see the head of FIDE in their country and they do not need any excuse in order to realize this desire.
                  Childish, feverish spite.
                  Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                  • #99
                    Re: "We have reliable evidence, but we would not show it to you because it is secret.

                    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                    Appeals? Kirsan has been trying to sue the US Treasury and/or at least force that byzantine bureaucracy to provide some evidence of their scurrilous claims. Instead, fresh animal droppings from the US regime. I guess it's a good thing there is some continuity between the Obama regime and the current one, but byzantine bureaucratic bafflegab hardly suffices.

                    Anyway, there's an amusing piece on Kirsan's webpage which is very much worth reading. It's nice to see the empire mocked so vigorously.

                    The US Treasury is not able to justify sanctions against Ilyumzhinov



                    The failure of the US regime and its cabal of zealots to overthrow the elected government of Syria and bring the Syrian people all the blessings of civilization that they brought to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Yemen, Yugoslavia, etc., etc. must really chap their asses (to use a Texas expression), but picking on Kirsan seems, well, spiteful and childish.

                    Anyway, judge for yourself. An amusing read.



                    So the "evidence" consists of Treasury quoting themselves, a couple of articles from the Guardian which has, lately, taken to publishing the feverish ravings of Russophobe and neo-con Kasparov as well. Kasparov is well represented in the Treasury response to Kirsan's request for some evidence.

                    The piece also notes that Kasparov "consulted" the US on ... bombing Syria and overthrowing its President. Former US President Barak Obama, said Kasparov, was a "wimp" for not doing so. It's said the neo-cons never saw a war they didn't like.



                    Childish, feverish spite.
                    Oh, OK. Thanks for the update, Nigel.

                    Same old, same old.

                    Does Kirsan still owe the CFC 60k? Wasn't there a 'promised' (not quite the exact word I'm looking for) 80k of which only 20k was received by the CFC, leaving the balance outstanding to this day?

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                    • Who's the terrorist sponsor?

                      Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
                      Oh, OK. Thanks for the update, Nigel....

                      Does Kirsan still owe the CFC 60k? Wasn't there a 'promised' (not quite the exact word I'm looking for) 80k of which only 20k was received by the CFC, leaving the balance outstanding to this day?
                      I dunno why you are addressing that question to me. A rhetorical question, maybe?

                      In the latest news around Syria, the Foreign Minister Fayssal Mikdad has noted at the UN that the US (and UK) governments have been supplying chemical weapons to their various proxies operating in the region.

                      Syria: US and UK Illegally Supplied Chemical Weapons to Proxies

                      Syria's foreign minister has said that they have found chemical agents produced in the U.S. in abandoned terrorist arms depots in recently liberated areas.

                      Syrian Foreign Minister Fayssal Mikdad has accused the United States and United Kingdom of breaking international laws on the use of chemical weapons in warfare by supplying banned irritant agents to their various militant proxy groups operating in the region.

                      According to Mikdad, chemical agents produced by U.S.-based laboratories were found in arms depots abandoned by militant groups in areas of eastern Damascus suburbs recently liberated by the Syrian government.

                      "All the special means that have been found include hand grenades and rocket projectiles for grenade launchers, which are supplied with CS and CN irritant agents. The discovered chemical munitions shown in the transparency were produced by Federal Laboratories on the US territory. And the chemical agents were produced by Cherming Defence UK and NonLethal Technologies" Mikdad said.
                      Who's the one supporting the terrorists again? [Supplemental: Iran is the first state in the world to impose sanctions on the US for supporting terrorism.]

                      Never mind, the current US President is outraging people left and right with his buffoonery. And that's way more interesting than, you know, war and peace...
                      Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Saturday, 19th August, 2017, 09:55 AM. Reason: supplemental
                      Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                      • Re: Who's the terrorist sponsor?

                        Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                        ...

                        Never mind, the current US President is outraging people left and right with his buffoonery. And that's way more interesting than, you know, war and peace...
                        Sad, but true.
                        "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                        • Re: Who's the terrorist sponsor?

                          supplemental to "Who's the terrorist sponsor?"

                          Never mind that the POTUS just threatened to kill 25 million Koreans from the rostrum of the UNGA. You would not notice it if you just read the MSM, but Russian media has been reporting for some time on the issue of US support for terrorism.

                          That's right. US SUPPORT for terrorism. The Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has been giving a thumping to the foreign-sponsored terrorists in that country, flushing out ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, etc., you name it. They just liberated Deir ez-Zor after a lengthy Leningrad-like seige by the terrorists.

                          Now, what's also important to know is that Deir ez-Zor is an oil-rich region of Syria. You know, like Iraq (for those who have no memory, Iraq was the country that the US invaded under false pretenses of WMDs in 2003, and earlier, and appropriated the oil wealth of that country, pillaged the priceless antiquities from a cradle of human civilization in undefended Iraqi museums, (but jealously protected the oil fields, natch!), killed a million people, displaced millions more, created the conditions for ISIS to flourish, etc., etc.) .

                          And, whadda know. Every time the SAA has some success against the terrorists, the US and its clients "just happen" to get in the way along with their ISIS buddies ...

                          "US backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) approaching the Deir ez-Zor region from the north work to the same objective as Islamic State terrorists, the Russian Defence Ministry said.

                          The MoD added that Syrian troops had been shelled from areas where SDF and US forces are stationed.

                          Russia had detected the transfer of SDF militants from Raqqa, stronghold of the Islamic State (IS, also known as ISIS/ISIL), to northern areas of Deir ez-Zor, the Russian Defense Ministry's spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov, said in a statement.

                          “SDF militants work to the same objectives as IS terrorists. Russian drones and intelligence have not recorded any confrontations between IS and the ‘third force’, SDF,” Konashenkov said."
                          https://www.rt.com/news/404040-russian-mod-sdf-syria/

                          Did you get that? The US-sponsored Kurds are getting along famously with ... Islamic State.

                          supplemental: "MoD added that Syrian troops had been shelled from areas where SDF and US forces are stationed."

                          Meanwhile, the President of FIDE supplied Syria with some chess sets. Or he has connection to a Syrian bank and therefore ..must be a terrorist!

                          What American idiocy. On the rostrum of the UN. And in Syria. And from the Treasury Department. Doesn't seem to much matter who's in the White House on these issues.

                          What happens when all the terrorists are driven out of Syria and the only ones left are wearing NATO or US uniforms?
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                          Supplemental x2:

                          The Russian Ministry of Defense has released aerial images which they say show US Army special forces equipment north of the town of Deir Ez Zor, where ISIS militants are deployed. US Army special units provide free passage for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) through the battle formations of Islamic State (IS) terrorists, the ministry said in a statement...
                          The US is working, literally, hand in glove with IS terrorists in Syria and they have the shamelessness to accuse others, including the FIDE President and the Government of Syria fighting these terrorists, of doing the same.

                          US Special Ops Forces & Hardware Spotted At ISIS Positions North of Deir Ez Zor


                          ... and for the doubters, here is some photographic evidence ... CONFIRMED: ISIS, the US and SDF are battlefield allies
                          Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Monday, 25th September, 2017, 12:40 PM. Reason: supplemental x2
                          Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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