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  • #16
    Re: The Young Karl Marx

    Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
    Fred: "How Feuerbachian of you."
    Somebody has something wrong here, too bad they could not use Stanley Kubrick to make the Marx film. In his Theses to Feuerbach, Marx wrote, if my memory serves, "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways, the point, however, is to change it." Marx is of course well known for suggesting that "religion is the opiate of the masses" but I do not believe that this opinion can be at all related to Feuerbach.

    Surely Engels would have realized all of this and not suggested that the chess comment of Marx was Feuerbachian. The comment was clearly Marxist, who needed no lessons from Feuerbach in order to develop his theories.

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    • #17
      Der Widerspruch ist das Fortleitende

      Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
      Surely Engels would have realized all of this and not suggested that the chess comment of Marx was Feuerbachian. The comment was clearly Marxist, who needed no lessons from Feuerbach in order to develop his theories.
      The dialogue was made up (by me). Glad you got the reference. ;) I just paraphrased Marx and hinted [in Fred's final line] at where the idea came from. The film-maker, Raoul Peck, is a bit of a scholar and I've read that he used M-E personal correspondence as a basis for dialogue in the film. He also made "I Am Not Your Negro" (about James Baldwin) and won an Oscar in January of this year for his efforts. So he should be good enough. How much of a role chess plays in the film is anyone's guess. We will see in June when it is released in English.

      I should mention that the actors for the two main characters were difficult to find; in real life they conversed, freely, in German, French and English and the film reflects that. Like Bon Cop, Bad Cop only with German added as well. Maybe it will become a new trend in film-making.

      In any case, Marx was quite willing to give credit where credit was due and knew the history of social thought well enough to identify where, when, and by whom a new idea was first expressed. The following quote from Engels might be of interest here ...

      "Then came Feuerbach’s Essence of Christianity. With one blow, it pulverized the contradiction ... One must himself have experienced the liberating effect of this book to get an idea of it. Enthusiasm was general; we all became at once Feuerbachians. How enthusiastically Marx greeted the new conception and how much — in spite of all critical reservations — he was influenced by it, one may read in The Holy Family. "

      see Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy
      Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Friday, 24th March, 2017, 02:57 PM. Reason: polishing, ya know?
      Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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      • #18
        El Jugador de ajedrez

        The Spanish Embassy played the following film in Ottawa on October 4 of this year. I guess no one here saw it. Pity.


        The Chess Player (El Jugador de ajedrez)

        See also a pdf of the Spanish film fest at Bytowne Cinema

        I do not know if or when it will be available for wider distribution. It is based on the novel by Julio Castedo.
        Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Thursday, 19th October, 2017, 11:11 PM. Reason: novel note
        Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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        • #19
          Re: El Jugador de ajedrez

          Thanks, it's playing in Toronto in November:
          http://euffto.com/index.php/componen...e-chess-player

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          • #20
            Re: Chess in film and television

            This week's Murdock Mystery saw the fourth best chess player in the world murdered in the woods of Markham, and cheating with a hidden transmitter!

            http://www.cbc.ca/murdochmysteries/e.../game-of-kings

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            • #21
              No need to investigate.

              Originally posted by Erik Malmsten View Post
              This week's Murdock Mystery saw the fourth best chess player in the world murdered in the woods of Markham, and cheating with a hidden transmitter!

              http://www.cbc.ca/murdochmysteries/e.../game-of-kings
              Given the current xenophobic climate, why investigate? Russia did it.

              This one should be easy for Murdoch.
              Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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              • #22
                OK, I'm investigating.

                At least the boards were set up correctly.

                It was also nice to see the detail on at least one of the sets; they showed Knight with bridle and/or reins in detail. I've never seen that on a wooden Knight before, though I have seen individual teeth and (horse) hairs on some Knights. Nice touch.

                The show mixes up different times, sometimes in a jarring sort of way, that is historically very inaccurate. Probably most of the viewing audience loves the sticky treacle that passes for drama in this show, and could care less for the egregious errors. For example, there are no chess clocks in the tournament (the show is set "around the turn of the century") but by 1900 the analog push button chess clock had been perfected by Verenhoff of Groningen. Any top European chess players would have known this and insisted on proper time controls.

                I guess Constable Crabtree had to be able to waste time for dramatic effect. So no chess clocks.

                Another inaccuracy, more political, was the Yorkshire-raised Police Inspector Brackenreid and his derisive use of the term "Bolshevik". English-speaking policemen wouldn't have been able to distinguish a Bolshevik from a Menshevik, nor would they care about such things, until after the Russian Revolution of 1917 and well into the civil war in which troops from the British Empire in the North Russia Expeditionary Force invaded that country. This didn't happen until 1918-1920, or thereabouts, which is well after the "turn of the century". There simply was no such thing as Bolsheviks before 1903 and none of the characters would care, in any case, until after 1917. Never miss a chance to denounce subversives, I guess.

                I saw no Canadian chess credits whatsoever. Considering how many famous people - including former PM Stephen Harper - have appeared on this show, you think the dolts at Murdoch Mysteries would make it their business to get all the chess details just right ... and maybe even have a cameo by some (perhaps aging) Canadian chess star.

                Nope. Well, at least they got the right-hand corners all light-coloured squares.

                SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                It was a little incoherent, but there were two dead in this episode, I think. However, since one of them was a Russian, no one was charged.

                All Russians are villains, right?
                Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                • #23
                  Re: OK, I'm investigating.

                  Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                  At least the boards were set up correctly.

                  It was also nice to see the detail on at least one of the sets; they showed Knight with bridle and/or reins in detail. I've never seen that on a wooden Knight before, though I have seen individual teeth and (horse) hairs on some Knights. Nice touch.

                  The show mixes up different times, sometimes in a jarring sort of way, that is historically very inaccurate. Probably most of the viewing audience loves the sticky treacle that passes for drama in this show, and could care less for the egregious errors. For example, there are no chess clocks in the tournament (the show is set "around the turn of the century") but by 1900 the analog push button chess clock had been perfected by Verenhoff of Groningen. Any top European chess players would have known this and insisted on proper time controls.

                  I guess Constable Crabtree had to be able to waste time for dramatic effect. So no chess clocks.

                  Another inaccuracy, more political, was the Yorkshire-raised Police Inspector Brackenreid and his derisive use of the term "Bolshevik". English-speaking policemen wouldn't have been able to distinguish a Bolshevik from a Menshevik, nor would they care about such things, until after the Russian Revolution of 1917 and well into the civil war in which troops from the British Empire in the North Russia Expeditionary Force invaded that country. This didn't happen until 1918-1920, or thereabouts, which is well after the "turn of the century". There simply was no such thing as Bolsheviks before 1903 and none of the characters would care, in any case, until after 1917. Never miss a chance to denounce subversives, I guess.

                  I saw no Canadian chess credits whatsoever. Considering how many famous people - including former PM Stephen Harper - have appeared on this show, you think the dolts at Murdoch Mysteries would make it their business to get all the chess details just right ... and maybe even have a cameo by some (perhaps aging) Canadian chess star.

                  Nope. Well, at least they got the right-hand corners all light-coloured squares.

                  SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  It was a little incoherent, but there were two dead in this episode, I think. However, since one of them was a Russian, no one was charged.

                  All Russians are villains, right?
                  There was a Russian player killed by a Polish, and a Polish player killed by a Russian. A Polish mentioned Bolshevik, maybe the term known by 1905? The show has been moving into the 20th Century.

                  Although events like the British Championship had clocks, I haven't seen any reference to them in Canada until the 1920 Dominion Championship. I like your idea of a real Canadian chess player cameo. No mention of real players like Lasker or Marshall. Perhaps this fictional tournament was just a warm-up exhibition on the way to a New York international? There would have been German players, too; Mieses came to Toronto in 1908. Toronto was 7% Jewish (some families escaping pograms), so could be some players/murderers from that immigrant population. The biggest thing missing wasn't clocks, but smoking.

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