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  • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

    Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
    Well, if it's gonna be like that, don't expect any sponsor's money...

    That's a serious problem with top level chess. The GMs all think the world owes them a living.
    Mathieu, you are missing the point. I, too, would welcome a sartorial upgrade among chessplayers, particularly titled players and agree that it would help with sponsors. That is not the issue. While FIDE has been waffling on some form of dress code, as of this moment, there is nothing in the proposed overall code, nor in the terms of the player contract, that would preclude the wearing of long shorts as Anton had done in four previous games without issue or incident. If the chief arbiter took it on himself to reinterpret the standard, the appropriate course, as he has conceded, would have been to warn the player to dress up in future...and then get on with the game.
    The issue is the behaviour of the notorious Zurabi, a Kirsan protege, who serves as chief organizer (and, incredibly, chair of the appeals committee) in haranguing and threatening a player 10 minutes before a round in the most insulting language. This is completely unacceptable and forms the basis of the protests by the CFC and by the Association of Chess Professionals.
    Last edited by Gordon Ritchie; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 08:25 PM.

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    • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

      Originally posted by Alex Ferreira View Post
      Hello,


      Assuming all that's been published is true...
      Appeal what exactly?
      Appeal the way Anton was treated at a key moment just before one of the most important games of his life. This situation is just unbelievable and intolerable.

      One has to wonder why FIDE keeps shooting itself in the head. Anton's situation fed the narrative that anything can happen in this tournament which builds the excitement and interest in chess. If the reports are correct and Anton doesn't reconsider we are probably going to lose another generational talent who seemed destined to become a supergrandmaster. This is a shame.
      Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 12:01 PM.

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      • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

        The Chess World Cup 2017

        September 10, 2017

        1/32 Finals
        Round Three, Game Two


        Nakamura loses to Fedoseev and exits the tournament.

        Fedoseev seems confident in his post-game interview. "For me it was not a surprise. This year I played fantastic chess"

        His coach, Alexander Khalifman, earlier said that this game was sort of shaky and Fedoseev agrees. He had the advantage from the opening and then gave Hikaru some chances, which he missed in time pressure.

        His most difficult match was the first round with Baccallao where he almost lost.

        Giri had a chance to save his game with 39….Rexf3 but missed it. Then, slowly and slowly, Giri built his game up again and almost equalized. In time pressure Giri escaped, the game being a draw.

        Svidler beats Onischuk and Alexander is out of the tournament. Wang Hao does the same with Kuzubov and eliminates him.

        Since Magnus is gone, Peter will not have to play him (in the same bracket) and Peter says that he is not unhappy about that.

        Ivanchuk beats Kramnik to a chorus of congratulations from the chessbomb kibitzers:

        - h3 - make a cake of this position.
        - woot great game by Chucky
        - Ivanchuk is immortal
        - wow, what an upset!
        - 3rd round, the round of upsets ... hope it's not mvl's turn now
        - Who is this young stallion defeating Kramnik? He seems promising
        - checkers has helped Chucky's chess
        - Hollywood would love to make a movie about the new world champion Ivanchuk.
        - Today Ivanchuk played like a world champion. What happens next is another story.

        Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 10
        Kramnik, Vladimir – Ivanchuk, Vassily
        B12 Caro-Kann, Exchange, Rubinstein variation

        1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.c3 Nf6 6.Bf4 Bg4 7.Qb3 Qc8 8.Nd2 e6 9.Ngf3 Be7 10.O-O Bh5 11.Rae1 Bg6 12.Bxg6 hxg6 13.h4 a6 14.c4 a5 15.a3 a4 16.Qd3 O-O 17.c5 b6 18.cxb6 Qb7 19.Bc7 Nd7 20.Rc1 Rfc8 21.b4 axb3 22.Qxb3 Bxa3 23.Rc3 Be7 24.Rfc1 Nb4 25.Ne5 Nxe5 26.Bxe5 Rxc3 27.Qxc3 Qxb6 28.Nf3 Qd8 29.Qb3 Rc8 30.Ra1 Rc4 31.g3 Qc8 32.Kg2 Nc6 33.Qb5 Bf8 34.Ra4 Rxa4 35.Qxa4 Nb4 36.Qb5 Qc2 37.Qf1 Qe4 38.Qe1 f6 39.Bc7 Nc2 40.Qxe4 dxe4 41.Nd2 f5 42.Nb3 Ne1+ 43.Kf1 Nf3 44.Ke2 Kf7 45.Bb6 Bb4 46.Ke3 Ke8 47.Bc5 Bc3 48.Ba3 Kf7 49.Bd6 Kf6 50.Bc7 Ke7 51.Bb8 Bb2 52.Bf4 Kd8 53.Bd6 Kd7 54.Bf8 Kc6 55.Bxg7 Kd5 56.Bf6 Bc3 57.Ke2 Kc4 58.Nc5 e5 59.Nd7 exd4 60.Bd8 d3+ 61.Kd1 Bd4 62.Bb6 Bxb6 63.Nxb6+ Kd4 64.Nc8 Ne5 65.Ne7 Ng4 66.Ke1 Kc3 67.Nd5+ Kb3 68.Kd2 Nxf2 69.h5 gxh5 70.Ne3 h4 71.Nxf5 h3 0-1

        Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 10
        Kuzubov, Yuriy – Wang Hao
        C65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defence

        1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5 5.Bxc6 dxc6 6.Qe2 Nd7 7.Be3 Bd6 8.Nbd2 c5 9.Nc4 O-O 10.O-O Re8 11.Nfd2 Nf8 12.Nxd6 cxd6 13.f4 exf4 14.Bxf4 Ng6 15.Be3 Be6 16.Qf2 b6 17.c4 a6 18.b3 b5 19.Nf3 f6 20.Bd2 Rb8 21.Bc3 Rb7 22.Qd2 Rbe7 23.Rf2 Qd7 24.Raf1 Ra8 25.Ne1 a5 26.Bxa5 b4 27.Bxb4 cxb4 28.Qxb4 Ne5 29.Qd2 Qa7 30.h3 Qd4 31.Qb2 Qe3 32.Qe2 Qb6 33.Nf3 Nxf3+ 34.gxf3 Rea7 35.Ra1 Bxh3 36.Kh2 Be6 37.Rg2 Ra5 38.Qf2 Rh5+ 39.Kg1 Qb4 40.Rd1 Rg5 41.f4 Rxg2+ 42.Qxg2 Qc3 43.Kh1 Qd4 44.f5 Bf7 45.Rd2 g6 46.Qf2 Qa1+ 47.Kh2 Qc1 48.Rc2 Qd1 49.Rd2 Qc1 50.Rc2 Qb1 51.Qd2 Qf1 52.a4 g5 53.Rc1 Qf3 54.Rg1 Qh5+ 55.Kg2 Qg4+ 56.Kf2 Qh4+ 57.Kg2 Re8 58.Qf2 Qg4+ 59.Kh2 Qh5+ 60.Kg2 d5 61.cxd5 Bxd5 62.Qd4 Rc8 63.Qb2 Qg4+ 64.Kh2 Qh4+ 65.Kg2 Bxe4+ 66.dxe4 Qxe4+ 67.Kh3 Rc2 0-1

        Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 10, 2017
        Fedoseev, Vladimir – Nakamura, Hikaru
        C48 Four Knights, Rubinstein Counter-Gambit

        1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bb5 Nd4 5.Bc4 Bc5 6.d3 c6 7.Nxe5 O-O 8.Nxf7 Rxf7 9.Bxf7+ Kxf7 10.Be3 Ne6 11.Bxc5 Nxc5 12.e5 Ne8 13.d4 Ne6 14.O-O d6 15.f4 dxe5 16.fxe5+ Kg8 17.d5 cxd5 18.Nxd5 N8c7 19.c4 Bd7 20.Qg4 Nf8 21.Qf3 Ng6 22.Rad1 Ne6 23.h4 Nxh4 24.Qf7+ Kh8 25.Nf6 Qb6+ 26.Rf2 Ba4 27.Rd6 Ng5 28.Qe7 Nf5 29.Rxb6 Nxe7 30.Rxb7 Ng6 31.Nh5 Ne6 32.Rff7 Be8 33.Rxa7 Rd8 34.Rf1 Kg8 35.Ng3 h5 36.Nf5 Kh7 37.b4 h4 38.b5 Rd2 39.Nd6 h3 40.gxh3 Bd7 41.Rxd7 Ng5 42.Rf5 Nh4 43.Rxg7+ 1-0

        Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 10, 2017
        Svidler, Peter – Onischuk, Alexander
        C88 Ruy Lopez, Closed, anti-Marshall

        1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.a4 b4 9.d3 d6 10.a5 Rb8 11.Nbd2 Be6 12.Bxe6 fxe6 13.c3 Nd7 14.Nb3 d5 15.Be3 bxc3 16.bxc3 dxe4 17.dxe4 Rb5 18.Qe2 Qb8 19.Qc4 Nd8 20.Rad1 Bd6 21.Rb1 Qb7 22.Nbd2 Qc6 23.Rxb5 axb5 24.Qb3 Qa6 25.Ra1 Nc5 26.Qb1 Nf7 27.c4 c6 28.cxb5 cxb5 29.Nb3 Nd7 30.Qd3 Rc8 31.h3 h6 32.Nfd2 Nb8 33.Nf3 b4 34.Qd1 Qb7 35.Nfd2 Rc3 36.Nc1 Na6 37.Ne2 Rc8 38.Qb3 Qe7 39.Rc1 Rxc1+ 40.Nxc1 Bc5 41.Nd3 Bxe3 42.fxe3 Qd8 43.Nc4 Ng5 44.Nb6 Nc7 45.Qc4 b3 46.Qxb3 Nxe4 47.Qc2 Qg5 48.Nc4 Nd5 49.a6 Nxe3 50.a7 Nxc2 51.a8=Q+ Kh7 52.Qxe4+ Qf5 53.Nd6 Qxe4 54.Nxe4 Kg6 55.g4 Kf7 56.Nxe5+ Ke7 57.Kf2 Nb4 58.Kf3 Nd5 59.Ng6+ Kf7 60.Nf4 Nf6 61.Nxf6 gxf6 62.Kg3 f5 63.gxf5 exf5 64.Ng2 1-0

        Round 3, Game 2, Sept. 10, 201
        Sethuraman, S.P. – Giri, Anish
        B92 Sicilian, Najdorf, Opocensky variation

        1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Be2 e5 7.Nb3 Be7 8.Be3 Be6 9.Qd3 O-O 10.O-O Nbd7 11.Nd5 Bxd5 12.exd5 Rc8 13.c4 g6 14.Rac1 Ne8 15.Qd2 Ng7 16.Na5 Nf5 17.Nxb7 Qc7 18.Na5 Nxe3 19.fxe3 Bg5 20.b4 Qb6 21.Rf3 f5 22.Nc6 f4 23.Qc2 fxe3 24.Rg3 Bh4 25.Rxg6+ Kh8 26.Rxd6 Nf6 27.g3 Qc7 28.Re6 Bxg3 29.hxg3 Qg7 30.Bf3 e2 31.g4 Nxd5 32.Qxe2 Nf4 33.Qxe5 Nxe6 34.Qxe6 Rce8 35.Qd5 Rf4 36.Rf1 Re3 37.Qd8+ Rf8 38.Qd5 Rf4 39.Rf2 Re1+ 40.Kh2 Qh6+ 41.Kg2 Qh4 42.Qd7 Rxc4 43.Qc8+ Kg7 44.Qd7+ Kh8 45.Nd4 h5 46.Rf1 hxg4 47.Bxg4 Rxf1 48.Kxf1 Qf6+ 49.Nf3 Rxb4 50.Qc8+ Kg7 51.Qc7+ Kh6 52.Qh2+ Kg7 53.Qc7+ Kh6 54.Qc1+ Kg7 55.Qd1 Rxg4 56.Qd7+ Kf8 57.Qc8+ Ke7 58.Qxg4 Qa1+ 59.Kg2 Qxa2+ 60.Kg3 Qe6 61.Qg7+ Kd6 62.Qa7 Qg6+ 63.Kf4 Qf6+ 64.Ke3 Qc3+ 65.Ke4 Qb4+ 66.Nd4 Qe1+ 67.Kd3 Qd1+ 68.Kc3 Qa1+ 69.Kc2 Qa2+ 70.Kd3 Qb1+ 71.Ke3 Qg1+ 72.Kd2 Qf2+ 73.Kc3 Qe1+ 74.Kb2 Qb4+ 75.Nb3 a5 76.Qa6+ Kc7 77.Qxa5+ Qxa5 78.Nxa5 1/2-1/2

        Going on to Round Four (Sept. 12)

        1. Bu Xiangzhi
        2. Peter Svidler
        3. Vassily Ivanchuk
        4. Daniil Dubov
        5. Wesley So
        6. Vladimir Fedoseev
        7. Maxim Rodshtein
        8. Wang Hao

        Going on to the Playoffs (Sept. 11)

        1. Lenderman-MVL
        2. Grischuk-Navara
        3. Giri-Sethuraman
        4. Aronian-Matlakov
        5. Nepomniachtchi-Jobava
        6. Caruana-Najer
        7. Li Chao-Rapport
        8. Ding Liren-Vidit

        Eliminated

        1. Magnus Carlsen
        2. Alexander Onischuk
        3. Vladimir Kramnik
        4. Vladislav Artemiev
        5. Francisco Vallejo Pons
        6. Hikaru Nakamura
        7. Anton Kovalyov
        8. Yuriy Kuzubov

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        • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

          Vlad,

          I applaud your reply and decision!

          Andrei

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          • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

            Originally posted by Hal Bond View Post
            I wrote a letter of protest to the Appeals Committee before I read Anton's account.

            He should have been politely asked to upgrade his attire for the next round. I am blown away by Anton's account. Azmai's racial comments were inexcusable. We're not done with this.
            Hi Hal,

            Just to make sure that eveyone undesrstands what calling someone a "gypsy" means for eastern European culture:
            Go to the start of the 3rd minute:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhENGl3XviM

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            • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

              Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
              Appeal the way Anton was treated at a key moment just before one of the most important games of his life. This situation is just unbelievable and intolerable.

              One has to wonder why FIDE keeps shooting itself in the head. Anton's situation fed the narrative that anything can happen in this tournament which builds the excitement and interest in chess. If the reports are correct and Anton doesn't reconsider we are probably going to lose another generational talent who seemed destined to become a supergrandmaster. This is a shame.
              Hi Vlad,

              It is my impression that the only things that get appeal are decisions.
              The only decision taken at any point by anyone, was Kovalyov abandoning the tournament.
              The way Kovalyov was treated was indeed unacceptable, but also irreversible.

              Of course there should be letters of protest, and it's great to see CFC taking leadership on that.

              Alex F.

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              • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                Being a professional GM now requires 3 very important things:

                1-Being good at chess
                2-Playing some actual chess (not the same as #1)
                3-Putting on some pants

                If your career is in jeopardy because of #3, maybe you should reconsider...

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                • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                  Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
                  Being a professional GM now requires 3 very important things:

                  1-Being good at chess
                  2-Playing some actual chess (not the same as #1)
                  3-Putting on some pants

                  If your career is in jeopardy because of #3, maybe you should reconsider...
                  Rd. 1, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.
                  Rd. 2, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.

                  See a pattern here, Mathieu?

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                  • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
                    Rd. 1, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.
                    Rd. 2, FIDE arbiters had no problem with Anton wearing shorts. Anton wins.

                    See a pattern here, Mathieu?
                    The pattern I see is a guy not dressed properly for the event he's playing in.

                    You receive 10k to play 4 games of chess, the least you can do is to wear some pants.

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                    • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                      Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
                      The pattern I see is a guy not dressed properly for the event he's playing in.

                      You receive 10k to play 4 games of chess, the least you can do is to wear some pants.
                      Top level chess in Canada has probably had a setback whose effects will certainly be long lasting and you want to side with the Disney villain in this scenario.

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                      • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                        if you were allowed to wear shorts in rounds 1 and 2 and all of a sudden called a gypsy in round 3 and forced to change to pants minutes before the game starts...I don't know man.. these arbiters are either a bunch of dorks who have no clue as to how rules work or are gang buddies of Anand, wanting to get back at Anton, pissed that our boy trashed him in round 2.

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                        • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                          Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                          Top level chess in Canada has probably had a setback whose effects will certainly be long lasting and you want to side with the Disney villain in this scenario.
                          Nope. I want to side with the good guy. But I also understand that the good guy will have more of a point if he wears pants...

                          Bobby Fischer understood that. Dress up, show up at the board and behave. If anything bothers you, you can complain before or after the game. But if you show up 5 min. before game time wearing shorts... don't expect to be treated like a pro.

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                          • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                            Originally posted by Nathan Zeap View Post
                            if you were allowed to wear shorts in rounds 1 and 2 and all of a sudden called a gypsy in round 3 and forced to change to pants minutes before the game starts...I don't know man.. these arbiters are either a bunch of dorks who have no clue as to how rules work or are gang buddies of Anand, wanting to get back at Anton, pissed that our boy trashed him in round 2.
                            Anton Kovalyov has been playing chess for more than 12 years and he's got 245 games registered on chessgames.com. That's less than 20 games a year. Then you ask him to play a couple of very important games. 2 of them against a former world champion. No less. And he's paid upwards of 10k for it. Result? He doesn't even bother to wear pants...

                            And then you wonder why the sponsors don't want to pour money into chess tournaments.

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                            • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                              And just to be clear:

                              It might sound rude, but being called a gipsy for wearing shorts at the Chess World Cup is just what it is.

                              You want to be a gipsy? Fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a lawless travelling artist who does things his own way. But either one of two things will happen:

                              1-More likely, you're gonna be treated and paid like a gipsy: not much.

                              2-Less likely, you become one of the very best gipsies in the world at what you're doing and your physical appearence doesn't matter anymore (i.e. Ivanchuck).
                              Last edited by Mathieu Cloutier; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 10:41 PM.

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                              • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                                Originally posted by Mathieu Cloutier View Post
                                And just to be clear:

                                It might sound rude, but being called a gipsy for wearing shorts at the Chess World Cup is just what it is.

                                You want to be a gipsy? Fine. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a lawless travelling artist who does things his own way. But either one of two things will happen:

                                1-More likely, you're gonna be treated and paid like a gipsy: not much.

                                2-Less likely, you become one of the very best gipsies in the world at what you're doing and your physical appearence doesn't matter anymore (i.e. Ivanchuck).

                                FIDE DRESS CODE POLICY: HELP CHESS BY WEARING PROPER ATTIRE

                                Regulations

                                3a The following is acceptable for men players, captains, head of delegation.

                                Suits, ties, dressy pants, trousers, jeans, long-sleeve or shirt-sleeve dress shirt, dress shirt, alternatively T-shirts or polo, dress shoes, loafers or dressy slip-ons, socks, shoes or sneakers, sport coat, blazer, Bermuda shorts, turtleneck, jacket, vest or sweater. Team uniforms and national costumes clothing.

                                FIDE >>> https://www.fide.com/component/conte...de-policy.html

                                Anton >>> http://en.chessbase.com/thumb/67940

                                ***

                                Unless there's a more recent FIDE Dress Code Regulation ... Fischer would of rocked Bermuda shorts too!

                                We done here???

                                Or, should Anton just go get a good lawyer?
                                Last edited by Neil Frarey; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 11:55 PM.

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