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/So Fred ,for the 2019 NAYCC this summer, if we simply ask folks to be honest...but they do not remit...will the CFC go after these players and not bill us?
I think the FQE received a pass on this...will the CMA get the same pass this summer?
Larry
I think it's safe to say that organizers who pull "tricks" like this are not forgotten in a hurry. I can't imagine the CMA wants to get into a strained relationship with us, but I realize you have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek here. Things have come a long way between the CFC and the CMA from 20 years ago.
For an organizer, collecting CFC memberships is hell on earth! We hear all kinds of stories...yes I paid to so and so...I paid yesterday...and at the end of the day...the organizer gets stuck with the bill! It is usually the same people scamming the system..because...we assume folks are honest...and 99% of them are.
I rarely organize CFC and FQE rated events anymore (not because of this but simply when no one wants to do the event and I don't want to see it die.). I must confess that the last time I did...I had washed this sad part of human behaviour out of my memory bank...result...we paid over $200 to the CFC and FQE for fees we never collected
Larry
There is also the category of misunderstanding that no, having paid your entry fee does not mean you paid your cfc. Usually junior parents who think free junior cfc applies to all tournaments, not just junior tournaments.
In the good ole days a club used to get a small kickback from the CFC for all the work in collecting CFC memberships. The kickback would be used to buy for the club books and equipment from the CFC. This also encouraged clubs to pursue new CFC memberships.
Probably you are thinking of the cfc affiliate program. It still exists. Pay $25/year and get 15% discount on memberships.
In the good ole days a club used to get a small kickback from the CFC for all the work in collecting CFC memberships. The kickback would be used to buy for the club books and equipment from the CFC. This also encouraged clubs to pursue new CFC memberships.
/So Fred ,for the 2019 NAYCC this summer, if we simply ask folks to be honest...but they do not remit...will the CFC go after these players and not bill us?
I think the FQE received a pass on this...will the CMA get the same pass this summer?
I understand , at the last CYCC CFC memberships were not checked...the organizer did not pay for what he did not receive and the CFC let it slide (that came from the rumour mill :)
The CFC Office made a concerted effort to contact all of the players who did not pay their CFC memberships at the 2018 CYCC (and it essentially would have only non Quebec players - as there is a different policy for them).
For an organizer, collecting CFC memberships is hell on earth! We hear all kinds of stories...yes I paid to so and so...I paid yesterday...and at the end of the day...the organizer gets stuck with the bill! It is usually the same people scamming the system..because...we assume folks are honest...and 99% of them are.
I rarely organize CFC and FQE rated events anymore (not because of this but simply when no one wants to do the event and I don't want to see it die.). I must confess that the last time I did...I had washed this sad part of human behaviour out of my memory bank...result...we paid over $200 to the CFC and FQE for fees we never collected.
Hey it is my fault.
If I announce the event is rated by an organization and people have to be members...then the onus is on me.
I understand , at the last CYCC CFC memberships were not checked...the organizer did not pay for what he did not receive and the CFC let it slide (that came from the rumour mill :)
Larry
Last edited by Larry Bevand; Saturday, 11th May, 2019, 06:58 PM.
Oftentimes, players would tell the organizers that they have paid online to CFC prior to the tournament. It is very hard for the organizers to check.
I have even try to verify with Bob on some of the players membership and some of the players just ignore our emails.
If I have my way, I will definitely not let these players play in my tournaments because if it is for only $ 32 or $ 48 a year, this deprive CFC the necessary funds to operate.
The CFC office would like to remind all members that it is their responsibility to keep their memberships current. Memberships need to be valid during the entire period of any CFC rated event. Junior members playing in Junior only events are exempted from paying membership dues except for National Junior Events (CYCC, Canadian Junior Championship). Juniors playing in CYCC, Canadian Junior or any Adult tournament need to pay membership dues.
The CFC office would like to remind all event organizers, TD’s, and club officials that it is their responsibility to ensure all participants are current members. They can either collect dues onsite and remit to the CFC office or instruct players to renew directly with the CFC office.
The CFC office policy has been to go ahead and rate events without verifying that all memberships are current thus relying on the players, event organizers, TD’s and club officials to do their part. Why hold up rating an event because of one or two expired memberships? Do we need to review this policy periodically? Most certainly Yes.
The CFC office will be conducting a comprehensive review of the membership list as of May 1, 2019.
We will begin with a list of those who appear to have played recently under an expired membership.
Tournaments rated for 3 months (May – July) will be audited 100% for memberships.
The membership list will be reviewed again for compliance as of August 1, 2019.
If it is deemed necessary, we will circulate a list of suspended memberships pending payment.
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