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Membership requirements for CFC rated events
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Originally posted by Bob GillandersThe CFC office would like to remind all event organizers, TD’s, and club officials that it is their responsibility to ensure all participants are current members. They can either collect dues onsite and remit to the CFC office or instruct players to renew directly with the CFC office.
Originally posted by Larry Bevand View PostGary Hua just posted this comment...3. If your CFC is expired, please renew online with CFC instead of paying to us. It took us a long time to get all the payments at the recent Ontario Open
As an organizer I think this is great. It will give CFC headaches though.
Alex F.
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Gary Hua just posted this comment...3. If your CFC is expired, please renew online with CFC instead of paying to us. It took us a long time to get all the payments at the recent Ontario Open
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If a player has an Expired membership and they cannot prove via a receipt issued by anyone then I say you have to pay a minimum tournament participation fee. I really hate when a player says I paid last tournament but can't prove it.
You pay to play so if you don't want to pay then you don't play.
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While it is requires time to insure that all players are CFC members, it is not a difficult task. The final reminder, that the player will be not paired if a renewal is not presented, works like a charm :)
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Originally posted by Kerry Liles View PostElsewhere, I hear (again) about the need to update the entire website - wasn't the last update $18K (perhaps I am not remembering correctly). Many people at the time said that was a ridiculous amount and I guess they were right. Hopefully the next iteration will be more cost effective and will actually work out of the box and for many years to come?
Even if it had been the best site in the world, it's now old enough it would need replacing by now.
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Originally posted by Paul Leblanc View PostAt Victoria Chess we have mitigated this nagging issue somewhat.
Our pre-registered lists display glaring red warnings beside the names of players with expired CFC memberships.
Two weeks before the event we e-mail individuals affected. We send PayPal invoices to those that have difficulty with the CFC site (we get this complaint a lot).
At onsite registration, the pre-registered list is posted with red letters "see registration" beside the expired members.
Pairing sheets for every round also display this.
It hasn't come to this but we're quite prepared to stop pairing expired members after a couple of rounds.
We pay the $25 affiliation fee annually and get reimbursed 15% for annual memberships sold.
Agree, a recurrent issue is juniors' parents who are not used to CFC membership dues. It helps a bit that we (Victoria Chess) offer a free tournament membership to new players and point out to them that next time they will have to join the CFC.
And yes, the whole thing is a royal pain.
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At some point over a decade ago,I kinda snapped. Since then, I just won't pair anyone who hasn't either renewed with the CFC (confirmed by the CFC office), or hasn't just paid me in cash.
This approach has worked for me.
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Originally posted by Kerry Liles View PostIn this thread there have been a number of references to "checking membership status with Bob Gillanders" - it seems obvious to me that *IF* the CFC membership rating list was maintained and was up to date on the website there would be no need to check directly with Bob... Of course, this means the membership list has to be updated in real time as much as possible - people who snail mail a cheque for example cannot expect their info to be up to date all that quickly, but someone who renews via the website should reasonably expect the info to be up to the day at least!
Elsewhere, I hear (again) about the need to update the entire website - wasn't the last update $18K (perhaps I am not remembering correctly). Many people at the time said that was a ridiculous amount and I guess they were right. Hopefully the next iteration will be more cost effective and will actually work out of the box and for many years to come?
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In this thread there have been a number of references to "checking membership status with Bob Gillanders" - it seems obvious to me that *IF* the CFC membership rating list was maintained and was up to date on the website there would be no need to check directly with Bob... Of course, this means the membership list has to be updated in real time as much as possible - people who snail mail a cheque for example cannot expect their info to be up to date all that quickly, but someone who renews via the website should reasonably expect the info to be up to the day at least!
Elsewhere, I hear (again) about the need to update the entire website - wasn't the last update $18K (perhaps I am not remembering correctly). Many people at the time said that was a ridiculous amount and I guess they were right. Hopefully the next iteration will be more cost effective and will actually work out of the box and for many years to come?
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At Victoria Chess we have mitigated this nagging issue somewhat.
Our pre-registered lists display glaring red warnings beside the names of players with expired CFC memberships.
Two weeks before the event we e-mail individuals affected. We send PayPal invoices to those that have difficulty with the CFC site (we get this complaint a lot).
At onsite registration, the pre-registered list is posted with red letters "see registration" beside the expired members.
Pairing sheets for every round also display this.
It hasn't come to this but we're quite prepared to stop pairing expired members after a couple of rounds.
We pay the $25 affiliation fee annually and get reimbursed 15% for annual memberships sold.
Agree, a recurrent issue is juniors' parents who are not used to CFC membership dues. It helps a bit that we (Victoria Chess) offer a free tournament membership to new players and point out to them that next time they will have to join the CFC.
And yes, the whole thing is a royal pain.
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Originally posted by Larry Bevand View PostFred...you are correct! I would rather we be on the same page....This is simply not a fun thing for us.
However, I believe the FQE is getting many passes...and the CFC is simply turning a blind eye...as they want to keep the peace between the two organizations...at the expense of the CFC.
That is your choice.
IPlease be advised that we will do all we can to collect CFC memberships at the NAYCC but we will NOT pay for CFC memberships that we do not collct.
I trust you understand that we are working in good faith but we want to be treated fairly here.
Larry
My understanding is that the FQE did make arrangements to pay tournament memberships for the people who did not pay for memberships. If an organizer falls down, it will certainly impact their ability to organize future events and particularly those events that are increasingly sought after by many communities. We spoke with 30 communities very interested in hosting events like the CYCC/CO/NAYCC. We cannot talk to them about the Canadian Closed because this is spoken for through 2022. Most of our flagship events are now expected to receive bids two and three years out (in contrast to the situation from 2015 and 2016 when we still did not have bidders for the Canadian Open by early December of the previous years (2014 and 2015). In 2015, there was no Canadian Open.
In any situation, you have to weigh the costs and the benefits of the action that you are proposing to take. We went to the CSTA conference in Ottawa despite the fact that our cupboard of events is relatively bare. It cost both Hal and I to attend at least in the form of lost earnings but the contacts and relationships should bear dividends for many years to come. The CFC will pay for our out of pocket expenses for this conference as soon as we submit the bills (in my case probably in the next few days). Without membership income, the CFC would not be able to attend such events which did benefit your NAYCC event as you have mentioned.
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Originally posted by Larry Bevand View PostFred...you are correct! I would rather we be on the same page....This is simply not a fun thing for us.
However, I believe the FQE is getting many passes...and the CFC is simply turning a blind eye...as they want to keep the peace between the two organizations...at the expense of the CFC.
That is your choice.
Please be advised that we will do all we can to collect CFC memberships at the NAYCC but we will NOT pay for CFC memberships that we do not collect.
I trust you understand that we are working in good faith but we want to be treated fairly here.
Larry
You're bringing up the perceived pass of us toward the FQE up is welcome at least by me, as it may force the CFC Executive to finally make some movement on this file (let's just say, we're not all on the same page, yet).
Fred
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Fred...you are correct! I would rather we be on the same page....This is simply not a fun thing for us.
However, I believe the FQE is getting many passes...and the CFC is simply turning a blind eye...as they want to keep the peace between the two organizations...at the expense of the CFC.
That is your choice.
Please be advised that we will do all we can to collect CFC memberships at the NAYCC but we will NOT pay for CFC memberships that we do not collect.
I trust you understand that we are working in good faith but we want to be treated fairly here.
Larry
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