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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Again Dilip: The Democratic Marxist Global Institute has issued a foundational document called "The Father's Day Manifesto", which sets out the basic tenets of Democratic Marxism.

    Democratic Marxist Global Institute - Originating Document

    The Father's Day Manifesto : A Human Government Alternative Identified

    (Democratic Marxism - Elaborated by the DM Global Institute – A Recommended Platform)
    1. Ownership of the Means of Production
    a. Generally, Worker majority, at least.


    b. Worker Cooperatives will be favoured by tax incentives, over legal corporations.


    c. Abolition of Capital investing

    2. Subsidiarity

    Most local societal civil unit (Likely cities/towns/etc.) have ALL power, following the Principle of Subsidiarity. This will be done by the higher political units downloading their authority.

    3. Democratic

    Only established through free elections; forcing populations into a Democratic Marxist Governance at the point of a gun is totally opposed by DM.

    4. Authentication

    Global local Democratic Marxist Parties are free to choose whatever platforms meet their needs. But local parties may seek an “Authentication” from the DM Global Institute that their policy in total, at least “generally”, complies with the DM Global Institute's model Democratic Marxist Platform. The DM Global Institute may suggest revisions as a condition of the granting of “Authentication”.

    5. Strategy
    Intermediate governments are the first to be targeted (E.g. States in USA; Provinces/Territories in Canada; etc.) The main platform of the DM Parties at this level will be three:

    a. to set up the identifiable Local Political Units (LPU);
    b. to download all the provincial powers possible to the LPU's;
    c. the intermediate structure will remaining only as a coordinator/facilitator, to carry out instructions at that level for LPU's who need to cooperate to achieve a goal, they cannot get on their own as a small power centre.

    6. Evolution

    This foundation platform for Democratic Marxism is an evolving document. Elaboration of new concepts & strategies, and corrections, will all be required to keep DM relevant. The DM Global Institute will be charged with this task. One of the methods for seeking evolution, is to manage a Facebook “Democratic Marxist Global Forum” (
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/2045711862207056/), open to all, where respectful and informative debate on all things political will assist the DMGI.
    .
    Note: Contact Us: Via our Fb Page: Democratic Marxism - Global:
    https://www.facebook.com/Democratic-Marxism-Global-748579292265552/?modal=admin_todo_tour


    Democratic Marxist Global Institute
    19/6/15
    Author: Bob Armstrong, Interim Coordinator, DM Vetting Committee Interim Chairperson
    Reviser: Bob Armstrong – 20/12/2

    Copyright – Democratic Marxist Global Institute - 2019

    Bob A

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Dilip: Can I first give the strategic goals of the fledgling Democratic Marxist Party of Ontario (DMPO), and then I will deal with the political position of Democratic Marxism.

    Democratic Marxist Party of Ontario

    Goals (Strategic)


    Goal 1 - The 1,000 Project - Sell to Ontario electors 1,000 Convention Memberships - entitles them to one vote at the First Convention


    Goal 2 - The Convention Project - Organize our First Convention


    Goal 3 - The Registration Project - After officially organizing and adopting a platform, official registration as a political party in Ontario, Canada - the Convention Members will sign the necessary 1,000 signature petition required as part of the registration process.


    Goal 4 - The Election Project - If registration is completed in time, to run at least one Candidate in the expected June, 2022 Ontario election.


    Discussion


    We will post items for discussion in the Fb political discussion group of the Democratic Marxist Global Institute, called Democratic Marxist Global Forum
    (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2045711862207056/?fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARB5MaP7fzlN9ItgmSkMWzv60Rd9mIxsQIkIgIa6_Guh2MGR6mV82GdH-IxgmiiVaJcZ-NLi7Cz46VX0nn78clmPjd-pttzlYPR9dmEubTBnBdnGohd0bl3Fy4k02cb3BVHNVOcfjANvEEUCRw6k1IZDDsZV6l9V1Id5_NomySGWmEpA3Inygttyrt3-jYH1m1M50W3d94tVElUVaZ-SrM-WZ4BkYEj0ZYF5Y5X2d7KRG_MQJtND8fXyDSkU0F1I4FVHkI_eoiyOazUgCRS0lmfetiENOGsaJPb6MfuHzQ92-u7gMI_E8888fus)


    Contact US

    E-mail: demmarxont@gmail.com

    Find out more, and if you like what you see, help us GROW!!

    Author: Bob Armstrong – 20/10/1

    Recent Reviser – Bob Armstrong – 20/10/17

    Bob A
    Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Friday, 15th January, 2021, 01:07 PM.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Hi Dilip - a good list of attacks on all 3 types of "socialism", many of which have at least some truth in them.

    I am suggesting to the world, that Democratic Marxism will do better on these fronts, than the heretofore existing Democratic Socialist and USSR-style Communist countries. We will see what happens when the Democratic Marxist Party of Ontario gets rolling towards the June, 2022 Ontario provincial election.

    Bob A
    Pardon my ignorance, Bob, but can you elaborate on your concept of 'Democratic Marxism'?

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Dilip - a good list of attacks on all 3 types of "socialism", many of which have at least some truth in them.

    I am suggesting to the world, that Democratic Marxism will do better on these fronts, than the heretofore existing Democratic Socialist and USSR-style Communist countries. We will see what happens when the Democratic Marxist Party of Ontario gets rolling towards the June, 2022 Ontario provincial election.

    Bob A

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post

    ...ism with a human face...

    The nurturing, compassionate, helpful-in-need 'human face' has always existed in the extended family, the neighborhood, the local providers, the local 'church' (or other local congregations)... and has worked very efficiently over centuries in all parts of our world...
    But it is being usurped by the faceless mega-government wasteful and often harmful 'socialist' projects, giving a high pedestal to authoritarian bureaucrats (who keep on mesmerizing till such time as they get kicked out with multi-million dollar severances), to corrupt politicians and to 'super-human' capitalists who are able to amass wealth out of all proportion to any human being's capabilities....

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  • Sam Sharpe
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    Here's a good video that might help explain the various terms....

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Dilip - For many of us, Sweden is NOT considered a "socialist" country. Sweden has what we call a capitalist Social Democracy (= Capitalism with a human face).

    The three implementations of socialism are:

    1. Democratic Socialism - Venezuela
    2. Democratic Marxism - the closest is Chile in 1971-3 under President Salvadore Allende and his minority Unity Government
    3. USSR-style Communism - China, Cuba

    Others may wish to comment on whether this is a standard definition.

    Bob A

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Why Socialism is not so destructive for Sweden as it is elsewhere:
    Minimal government regulations in everyday life and in business (it is in the top 10 for ease of doing business), complete transparency in government, lack of 'hype' for authority (CEO salaries are realistic, not fantastic), no hero worship of politicians ( https://mg.co.za/article/2019-05-31-...r-swedish-mps/ ), all of the above being the offshoots of a non-corrupt culture....

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  • Kerry Liles
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    Over the years, I have noticed that the people who do the most bitching about government or health care systems stop complaining when they need it (E.I. or hospitalization etc)
    Of course, arguing for reforms or better implementation is one thing (and a good thing) but endless bitching about a collective service funded by all taxpayers seems like a dead end.
    Reminds me of people I worked with in the early 70's who had no children and complained about education taxes... I asked them why they didn't complain about Provincial and Federal Parks since they weren't the camping types.... crickets.

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  • Aris Marghetis
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Hi Dilip:

    Re Masks & COVID-19 - seems we have agreement on this - that the citizen's rights to wear what s/he wants, and not wear what s/he doesn't want, SHOULD be limited for the common good of trying to minimize in society those transmitting the disease to others (I have seen stats that someone with COVID who is a transmitter, who wears a mask properly, cuts down their ability to infect others by as much as 94%).
    [NOTE: I am not wanting to discuss the whole issue of masks effectiveness here - I'm just making the statement I believe in given all the conflicting information out there with myriads of contradicting reports]

    It is my belief that some Libertarians argue that this is in fact an unwarranted intrusion on the rights and freedoms of the citizen. Has anyone else had disagreement on government mask policy from someone who is a Libertarian, and claims it is not in accord with their politics?

    Bob
    Morning Bob, that's a great and interesting post. I've read that one of the principles of Libertarianism is the adult version of the schoolyard rule "you don't hit others". So then I guess the next step is, well, is not wearing a mask, which could "hurt others", equivalent to the simplistic "hit others"? I don't know. Then the next angle is wouldn't the answer be different for different reasons when living in a different health care jurisdiction? For example, by accepting/using funded health care like we have in Canada (vs. the U.S.), doesn't the government get to set some of the "rules"?!

    Back to our pandemic though, regardless of the above, from the viewpoint of helping vs. hurting the situation, I'm always wearing a mask. I think the odds are very low, at times even practically impossible, that I could have COVID-19, so I am a low risk to spread it. But if wearing a mask could even possibly help, why not do so? At this point, anything to support the health care system!

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Dilip:

    Re Masks & COVID-19 - seems we have agreement on this - that the citizen's rights to wear what s/he wants, and not wear what s/he doesn't want, SHOULD be limited for the common good of trying to minimize in society those transmitting the disease to others (I have seen stats that someone with COVID who is a transmitter, who wears a mask properly, cuts down their ability to infect others by as much as 94%).
    [NOTE: I am not wanting to discuss the whole issue of masks effectiveness here - I'm just making the statement I believe in given all the conflicting information out there with myriads of contradicting reports]

    It is my belief that some Libertarians argue that this is in fact an unwarranted intrusion on the rights and freedoms of the citizen. Has anyone else had disagreement on government mask policy from someone who is a Libertarian, and claims it is not in accord with their politics?

    Bob

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    You have a legitimate concern, bit it is not so simple, Bob...

    Let us take the example of masks during our pandemic. If the government 'educates' the people that if you do not wear masks, you may infect others, and if that happens, those responsible will pay a heavy price for it through the courts... no sensible person will want to take the risk of almost going bankrupt by not wearing a good mask!

    Let us talk about health care: I grew up in a lower middle-class family in India, but always had very good private health-care, because in a direct doctor - patient interaction, health care is not expensive; only in the American system of a useless third party (insurance companies) being involved, or in the Canadian system of useless bureaucracy having more power than the 'good direct care giver', is there so much waste and futile (and sometimes harmful) activity; and when you leave it to the market forces without government regulations favoring big-pharma, the prices of medications will also hit rock-bottom...

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Libertarianism is a political philosophy and movement that upholds liberty as a core principle. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and political freedom, emphasizing free association, freedom of choice, individualism and voluntary association. Wikipedia


    My problem with Libertarianism is that I constantly find it raising self-interest above common good. So even if society needs to get a common good benefit by putting some limit on human freedom, the Libertarian argues against it.

    I am not referring to breaching human rights totally, allegedly for the common good, as we see in the USSR-style Communism.

    But the common good does sometimes demand some limits on total individual freedom within society.

    Bob A

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    Yes. They are rewarded for donating to political candidates who then write legislation that favours those who make the donations.
    Government is a dangerous institution. Libertarians have a great antipathy to power in the hands of politicians...thus they limit government, generally through a written constitution enumerating and limiting the powers that the people delegate to government. Limited government is the basic political implication of libertarianism, and a strong antidote to corruption you refer to...

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

    If a few people 'benefit more from the system' than others can, either there is something wrong with the system, which needs to be rectified quickly, or the system itself is neutral towards all, but some are just rewarded as per what they do... in the latter case, the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else, though he or she may choose to make huge charitable donations...
    Yes. They are rewarded for donating to political candidates who then write legislation that favours those who make the donations.

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