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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Who's mob? Your mob? The mobs that destroyed inner cities across America? Those are YOUR mobs.

    ‘People will do what they do’ -- Nancy Pelosi

    Democratic senators raised bail money for anarchists who burned down Democratic run cities -- Kamala Harris

    Allowing chaos in American cities was a policy choice by Democratic officials and they tried real hard to blame it all on Trump!

    ...

    ‘People will do what they do’ -- Nancy Pelosi

    Gotta love that line, eh?

    'Some people who did something' -- Ilhan Omar

    Gotta love that line too, eh?

    ...

    How long did it take for YOUR mobs to back off from their violence and burning and looting???

    Let's just look at Federal building in Portland ???

    How many officers attacked while defending properties across America from YOUR mobs ... ???

    ...

    And here you are with your fake ass concern ... hypocrite.

    Are you addressing me? You should quote my post if that is what you are doing. It isn't clear who you are responding to, but it looks like me. I don't know you at all, but if you are calling me a hypocrite, I'd like to know exactly what you mean because your post is all over the map and doesn't make any sense (like Trump himself).

    So try and calm down and explain yourself. When you say "your mob" I am assuming you mean because I support the Democrats in the USA (even though I am in Canada), and yes, I admit to supporting Democrats. You obviously hate Democrats. I have no idea what motivates that hatred, maybe you can explain it.

    Anyway, neither Democrats nor Republicans can claim innocence when it comes to mobs. Let's use that as a starting point, if you can calm down enough to do that.

    Meanwhile, it is almost looking like Trump himself COULD HAVE directed DC metro police to let the mob into the Capitol buildings. Somebody very high up had to make that happen, because the normal job of those police is to keep the mob out. But they are on video willingly letting the mob in and even taking selfies with them.

    If it was Trump and can be proven, he is destined to an old age behind bars. The "orange man" will take on a whole new meaning then.







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  • Neil Frarey
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    Who's mob? Your mob? The mobs that destroyed inner cities across America? Those are YOUR mobs.

    ‘People will do what they do’ -- Nancy Pelosi

    Democratic senators raised bail money for anarchists who burned down Democratic run cities -- Kamala Harris

    Allowing chaos in American cities was a policy choice by Democratic officials and they tried real hard to blame it all on Trump!

    ...

    ‘People will do what they do’ -- Nancy Pelosi

    Gotta love that line, eh?

    'Some people who did something' -- Ilhan Omar

    Gotta love that line too, eh?

    ...

    How long did it take for YOUR mobs to back off from their violence and burning and looting???

    Let's just look at Federal building in Portland ???

    How many officers attacked while defending properties across America from YOUR mobs ... ???

    ...

    And here you are with your fake ass concern ... hypocrite.

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Lots of video coming out showing DC law enforcement actually ALLOWING AND ENCOURAGING the mob to enter the Capitol building. Also, Trump in his morning rally exorted the mob to walk the mile up Pennsylvania Ave. to the Congress and "take back our country".

    This goes very high up in the food chain.... months of investigations are coming into just this day's events.

    Meanwhile, the division continues.... members of Congress and Senators still objecting to the electoral college ballot counting.... still believing Trump's lies....

    This is not going away. The mob backed down for today, but that doesn't mean much.

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  • Lucas Davies
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    An elected member of congress today tweeted an extremely obviously photoshopped picture of Obama shaking hands with Hassan Rouhani: https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/stat...76066086395906

    This is one of the same people trying to overturn the election in Trump's favour. This is the party of Trump.

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    All we need now is for Trump to initiate a U.S. military action against Iran. I wouldn't put it past him.

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Wow, Joy Reid on MSNBC practically calling this a race war... accusing WH security of handling white domestic terrorists with kid gloves...

    There are calls for Trump to resign.... possible invocation of the 25th amendment to have hlm removed.... it would take Pence to do that.

    Senators Cruz and Hawley (?) may be forced to resign. Republican members of the House that support Trump's lies may be expelled from Congress.

    Tonight may go down as the inflection point of a very dark period of history.

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  • Frank Dixon
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    A lot pf the future south of the border depends on what the U.S. Justice system does with Donald Trump. He may try to pardon himself before leaving office in two weeks, but that would only cover federal crimes. The New York State justice people are working on several cases involving him and his companies, pardons won't matter there.

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    This thread has taken an interesting philosophical direction to do with taxation... but I see no one has commented on the U.S. civil war question I asked.

    And yet today, there are ARMED PRO-TRUMP ACTIVISTS INSIDE THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES, and a person has been shot, and police have drawn their weapons.

    This is just the beginning. Donald Trump Jr. and his brother Eric are inciting the mobs to a frenzy. The fact that the mob actually made it into the chambers of Congress will embolden them in the future, and it is this future we need to pay mind to now. Especially with the Senate now in control of the Democrats.

    I am predicting comprehensive civil war in the United States before the next U.S. Presidential election in 2024.

    Oh, and by the way, there's a mutation of the Covid virus in South Africa that is proving resistant to antibody drugs and is in a stage of commiuity spread.. Get ready for a 2021 that is worse than 2020.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

    At absolute minimum they owe for their share of the common assets and other resources - same as any other citizen.
    I agree, Peter. Its just that if everyone equally owes to a common system (and indirect taxation in general), it is different from one group owing to the other, as Bob Armstrong suggested...

    'Legally' is a term which can be misused...Everything 'legal' in a communist country is not necessarily desirable... much of it is outright unethical...

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

    If a few people 'benefit more from the system' than others can, either there is something wrong with the system, which needs to be rectified quickly, or the system itself is neutral towards all, but some are just rewarded as per what they do... in the latter case, the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else, though he or she may choose to make huge charitable donations...
    Interesting that words like 'legally' (e.g. the one who is legally rewarded) don't appear in your post. Was that intentional?

    p.s. "the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else" - baloney!! At absolute minimum they owe for their share of the common assets and other resources - same as any other citizen.
    Last edited by Peter McKillop; Wednesday, 6th January, 2021, 05:39 PM.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Hi Dilip: My Principle: Those who benefit most from the system (The wealthy) should carry a significant part of the costs of the system (By taxation of them, that recovers a significant part of the cost). The Commoner benefits somewhat as well, and so they also should bear some of the cost through paying general tax revenue.

    Bob A
    If a few people 'benefit more from the system' than others can, either there is something wrong with the system, which needs to be rectified quickly, or the system itself is neutral towards all, but some are just rewarded as per what they do... in the latter case, the one who is rewarded does not owe anything to anyone else, though he or she may choose to make huge charitable donations...

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Dilip: My Principle: Those who benefit most from the system (The wealthy) should carry a significant part of the costs of the system (By taxation of them, that recovers a significant part of the cost). The Commoner benefits somewhat as well, and so they also should bear some of the cost through paying general tax revenue.

    Bob A

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post

    There are four tax options in the capitalist system:
    1. greatly steepen the progressive income tax (Individual & Corporate), and close loopholes only beneficial to the 1%.
    2. Eliminate Sales Tax (Disproportionately borne by the 99%);
    3. An Inheritance Tax;
    4. A Wealth Tax.


    Bob
    Why do some people like to target someone else's money, instead of finding ways to make their own, or finding ways to eliminate the corrupt systems which unfairly prevent them from making their own?
    Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Wednesday, 6th January, 2021, 03:38 PM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Bob G: Though Biden will obviously be better than Trump, Trump has set the bar very low.

    One must recognize that Joe is the poster boy for the Establishment, the body in the Dem's that gutted, or tried to gut, their very moderate left wing.

    I expect nothing very radical except putting the old "good" things back into place.

    The oil industry will definitely not be shut down. The left wing's Green Plan will be so watered down as to be of little help re negative climate change (With an almost agreed on "Tipping Point" being reached in only 10 years now: Jan. 1, 2031.)

    Defence Spending will go UP.

    The elite 1% will still control the Dem Establishment.

    There are four tax options in the capitalist system:
    1. greatly steepen the progressive income tax (Individual & Corporate), and close loopholes only beneficial to the 1%.
    2. Eliminate Sales Tax (Disproportionately borne by the 99%);
    3. An Inheritance Tax;
    4. A Wealth Tax.

    Do you expect these from Biden/DNC?

    He will likely raise the minimum wage.

    My 2 cents.

    Bob

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Good question!

    It looks like Democrats have won both senate seats in Georgia. So good bye to Moscow Mitch. Trump s/b gone in a couple of weeks. Biden needs to ignore the billionaires, do what is popular, slash defence spending, tax the super rich, raise minimum wage, neuter the oil industry. That would be a start. I am not saying it will happen, just what I hope will be the first step.

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