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  • Neil Frarey
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    I hope that the truth on this matter comes out, whatever it may be.
    Magnus Carlsen
    Whatever it may be. Seriously???

    Still more with the dramatic obfuscation, ha!

    Enuff already!

    You lost ... get over it!!!

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Patrick Gougeon View Post
    Thanks, Patrick.

    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    ..... Carlsen is standing up for the integrity of the game.
    .....

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  • Patrick Gougeon
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    Magnus statement:

    https://twitter.com/MagnusCarlsen?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor



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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Magnus Carlsen cheating in tournament against Naroditsky (livestreamfails.com)

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  • Brad Thomson
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    I am not so sure now Grandmasterov, though you may be right.

    Yes, earlier I called him a "suck" and a "bum" but I think I may have been wrong. I do fear that this poor man has some serious issues that he needs help with. Of course, what he did and continues to do is terribly wrong, but I do wonder now about the reasons. Magnus may be a very troubled man emotionally/psychologically/spiritually. His about face on Niemann adds credence to this view, though again Grandmasterov, your explanation may have merit.

    I do hope that Magnus is well, and I do hope that if he is not that he receives the help he needs.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Even lesser lights such as GM Levon Aronian.

    Today he is walking back his remarks made yesterday on the character of Niemann's play, ha!

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  • Neil Frarey
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    I think this interview was well staged, ha!

    Cry Baby Carlsen is now conducting repair of his global brand.

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  • Brad Thomson
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    I am of course no expert, but in this interview Magnus seems lethargic, depressed and very tired. He is constantly slouching and never looks at the camera. The poor fellow has problems of some kind, this is certain. What they are one cannot say, but he needs help it seems to me.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Unfortunately I cannot particularly speak on that but people can draw their own conclusion & they certainly have. I have to say I am very impressed by Niemann's play & I think his mentor Maxim Dlugy must have been doing a great job.
    https://youtu.be/c50PJmOj2-U?t=55

    Sept. 21, 2022

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
    .....

    I cannot help but wonder if Carlsen is suffering from mental illness and needs compassion from all of us and help from qualified doctors.
    À la Bobby Fischer? Seems doubtful, but .....? Meanwhile back at the ranch, I've attached the text of a tweet from chess.com. It doesn't have a date - I copied it from an article at NPR and did the best I could considering I'm a decrepit, foul-tempered oldster. Re the tweet, the implication seems to be that Niemann downplayed the extent of his cheating ways.

    p.s. I love the incongruity between "Dear Chess Community" and "privately remove him." Too bad there has to be assholes like Putin and Trump. Life could be so much fun without them.

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  • David Ottosen
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    Originally posted by George Stajov View Post
    In Gibraltar 2017, Hou Yifan (the World Champion) resigned game 10 after five moves as a protest of the pairings. She had faced 7 women in 10 rounds and believed the parings had been manipulated. https://en.chessbase.com/post/gibraltar-flash

    She later apologized.
    Her apology was absolutely required. She stated the reason she withdrew which implied bad action on the part of the arbiters, and she was 100% proven wrong. Her responsibility to apologize at that moment had nothing to do with being World Champion - it was just basic human decency.

    I have sympathy that Carlsen cannot explain his reasons for his actions, and there's enough questions about Niemann that I'm not going to be sure Carlsen is 100% wrong yet.

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  • Brad Thomson
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    Maurice Ashley was to be heard on CBC Radio twice during the overnight news shows, once on As it Happens, then on a show originating in America. He tried to be non-committal but did go so far as to say there is no evidence to suggest that Niemann cheated and that the moves of the game in question contained errors and that the game as a whole did not look at all like a computer influenced game.

    I cannot help but wonder if Carlsen is suffering from mental illness and needs compassion from all of us and help from qualified doctors.

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  • George Stajov
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    In Gibraltar 2017, Hou Yifan (the World Champion) resigned game 10 after five moves as a protest of the pairings. She had faced 7 women in 10 rounds and believed the parings had been manipulated. https://en.chessbase.com/post/gibraltar-flash

    She later apologized.

    In an exclusive interview with the Festival press team Hou Yifan tells Tania Sachdev she apologized to chess players, to her fans and those following the Gibraltar Masters. Hou Yifan said she had been dissatisfied and had been upset with the pairings throughout the tournament as she had drawn seven women players out of 10 rounds. Tournament organizer, Brian Callaghan, interviewed directly after the Women’s World Champion was disappointed at what had happened and felt she had let herself down. Being a World Champion he said brought with it a great responsibility. Although sympathetic about her reason for giving her game away, Mr. Callaghan was quite clear that he did not believe the pairings had been wrong or that the move by Hou Yifan had damaged the tournament. But he did refer to the world champion having had a “bad day at the office”. Mr. Callaghan insisted the festival had welcomed her several times to the Rock and the festival had always been a keen promoter of the women’s game in chess and that this would continue into the future.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    And they could be facing each other again in this tournament in knockout round where pairings play 4 game matches, ha!


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  • David Ottosen
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    Originally posted by Hans Jung View Post
    https://en.chessbase.com/post/is-han...regan-analyzes Ken Regan declares Hans Niemann is not cheating.
    There's an alternate possible way to look at this, which relates back to Kasparov's first loss to Deep Blue. When you think your opponent is cheating (even if they're not), you tend to play worse against them. Why do so many people play worse against Niemann? Maybe they believe (via proof or insinuation or rumor) that he's cheating, and they play worse.

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