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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

        Thanks for trying to explain, Sid. I still do not grasp it, but we can leave it there...
        Bob (A and G), what do the climate-anxious have to say about this theory?
        Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
        what do the climate-anxious have to say about this theory
        A "theory" that just happens to match up really well with actual measurements taken from satellites that look at different parts of the Earth. This gives us confidence that the models and calculations they used are accurate.

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          • #20
            Bob A is attempting to get the following statement below, which he defines as a "generally stated statement." I will comment on this statement, six although I will not participate in a thread that views "generally accepted" as a barometer of truth.

            "Between 600 million and 400 million years ago, CO2 in Earth's atmosphere was quite high (over 600 ppm). Between 200 million and 150 million years ago, it had dropped to over 300 ppm. and remained there. But by 2022, almost 200 years after the start of the Industrial Revolution [1850], the percentage of the air/atmosphere that is CO2 had again spiked. "Carbon dioxide measured at NOAA’s Mauna Loa Atmospheric Baseline Observatory peaked for 2022 at 421 parts per million in May, pushing the atmosphere further into territory not seen for millions of years, scientists from NOAA and Scripps Institution of Oceanography offsite link at the University of California San Diego announced today. "

            For the following reasons, Statement 6 has no basis to support any of its statements.

            The statement contains many inaccuracies and misleading information.
            1. "Between 600 million and 400 million years ago, CO2 in Earth's atmosphere was quite high (over 600 ppm)." - This part is not accurate. The Earth's atmospheric composition has varied significantly over geological time scales, but estimating specific CO2 levels with precision for periods millions of years ago is challenging. CO2 levels have been much higher in the distant past, but stating an exact value like "over 600 ppm" is not supported by direct evidence.
            2. "Between 200 million and 150 million years ago, it had dropped to over 300 ppm. and remained there." - This part is also not accurate. CO2 levels during different periods of Earth's history can only be estimated with a degree of uncertainty. While there were periods when CO2 levels were lower than present, stating an exact value like "over 300 ppm" for this time frame lacks precision and reliable evidence.
            3. "421 parts per million in May, pushing the atmosphere further into territory "not seen for millions of years," This, too, lacks evidence, although The Muana data is accurate; however, the below excellent article by climate scientists concludes with "Rapidly increasing CO2 values measured during this Modern Warming may not be unprecedented compared with past natural fluctuations after all."

            Watts Up With That?
            The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change

            https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/01/...consideration/

            Finally post 2 directly contradicts "Statement 6' https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...896#post228896
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            • #21
              LOL!!!!


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              • #22


                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                Within China, local officials obstruct foreign correspondents and security forces detain journalists’ family members. The 2018 annual survey of the Foreign Correspondents’ Club of China yielded “the darkest picture of reporting conditions inside China in recent memory.” 37/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                The CCP has shown itself especially adept at silencing China’s minority populations. The way to keep unrest from going viral, the CCP had learned, was to “quarantine” it. 38/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                Ever since the CCP’s takeover of Xinjiang, the Party has debated how best to manage the disputed territory. Terrorist attacks in Xinjiang grew worse in the early 2000s. A deadly attack in 2009 killed nearly 200 people in Urumqi, Xinjiang’s capital. 39/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Following his visit to Xinjiang in 2014, Xi laid the groundwork for what would become his signature policy: The detainment, reeducation, and “quarantine” of over one million Uyghur Muslims “infected with extremism” in a system of concentration camps in Xinjiang. 40/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Xi likened Islamic extremism to both a virus and an addictive drug, and declared that addressing it could be done only through “a period of painful interventionary treatment.” “We must be as harsh as them, and show absolutely no mercy.” 41/

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                Michael P Senger

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                A directive on how to handle minority students returning to Xinjiang in 2017 instructs officials to tell the students that their relatives had been “infected” by the “virus” of Islamic radicalism and must be “quarantined” and “cured.” 42/




                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                The Wuhan fear videos were the first of several perfectly-timed events that would provide the rationale for a fearful public to trade away their rights and livelihoods for lockdowns and restrictions—they crafted a powerful narrative and pre-programmed countless minds. 55/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                While the Wuhan videos consumed social media, most mainstream viewers had their first encounter with COVID-19 fear propaganda through a story picked up by global media outlets in early February 2020 about a doctor named Li Wenliang. 56/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                Li supposedly noticed an unusual incidence of pneumonia and warned his friends that hospital staff were being quarantined, causing panic and anger in Wuhan, for which Li was admonished by local authorities on January 3, 2020. Li Wenliang’s story does not withstand scrutiny. 57/

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                Michael P Senger

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                It remains a mystery why 27 patients experiencing pneumonia in a city of 19 million might be notable. But on Dec 31, 2019, the Wuhan municipal government was so NOT intent on covering up those cases that it made an alarmist public announcement about them on their site. 58/

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                Michael P Senger

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                The very next day, on January 1, 2020, two days before Li’s supposed admonishment, People’s Daily, China’s LARGEST newspaper, picked up the story and reported it in the alarmist fashion—in English: “27 Quarantined in Wuhan Due to Viral Pneumonia.” 59/

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                Michael P Senger

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                In fact, the first time the world ever heard the name “Li Wenliang” was on January 27, 2020—a month after he had allegedly sent his viral messages—when a purported exposé featuring Li was published in one of the CCP’s most venerated propaganda outlets: Beijing Youth Daily. 60/


                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                In fact, the first time the world ever heard the name “Li Wenliang” was on January 27, 2020—a month after he had allegedly sent his viral messages—when a purported exposé featuring Li was published in one of the CCP’s most venerated propaganda outlets: Beijing Youth Daily. 60/

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                Michael P Senger

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                Oct 31, 2021
                Image searches for screenshots of Li Wenliang’s famous messages “blowing the whistle” on COVID-19 turn up nothing prior to January 27, a month after they’d supposedly gone viral—but, coincidentally, the same day Beijing Youth Daily first told of Li’s purported existence. 61/

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                • #23


                  Michael P Senger

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                  Many dismissed the videos. But at the time these videos appeared, no one outside China knew whether COVID-19 really did cause sudden death. 50/
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                  Michael P Senger

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                  And even for those who didn’t buy in outright, there was always that nagging voice in their mind: “What if…” That “what if,” embedded into the unconscious mind, was perhaps the most powerful effect of all. 51/
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                  Michael P Senger

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                  Another viral sensation claimed to show dead COVID-19 victims lining the streets and waiting to be picked up like trash. As one user tweeted about the video: “Wuhan China. Dead Bodies waiting 4 pickup. Coronavirus NO ordinary Virus. Is it intentionally released BIO WEAPON?” 52/

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                  Michael P Senger

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                  Oct 31, 2021
                  Some of the most influential footage showed authorities welding residents into their homes, both for their own good and—even more—for the good of the world. 53/ https://twitter.com/ASB_Breaking/status/1226131773576425473/video/1…
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                  Michael P Senger

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                  Another video featured a woman lying dead in the street and the story was that she had been shot at the border by doctors as she attempted to flee. But like all the others, this was a lie. It was a motor-scooter accident, artfully edited to tell a completely different story. 54/

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                  The Wuhan fear videos were the first of several perfectly-timed events that would provide the rationale for a fearful public to trade away their rights and livelihoods for lockdowns and restrictions—they crafted a powerful narrative and pre-programmed countless minds. 55/

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                  • #24

                    Most Important Video On The Internet?

                    Dr. David E. Martin Calls For Total Destruction Of The World Health Organization (WHO) For Crimes Against Humanity & Bio-Terrorism (9/13/23 Speech):
                    bravely exposes the criminal cartel WHO: Plan it, Fund it, Create it, Deploy & Profit from it. “Until we treat this as a criminal conspiracy, of criminal racketeers, resulting in global terrorism for the purpose of profiteering and murder; until we have that conversation, we’re having the wrong conversation.” He also exposes COVID as bio-weapon as part of his presentation.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                      Most Important Video On The Internet?

                      Dr. David E. Martin Calls For Total Destruction Of The World Health Organization (WHO) For Crimes Against Humanity & Bio-Terrorism (9/13/23 Speech):
                      bravely exposes the criminal cartel WHO: Plan it, Fund it, Create it, Deploy & Profit from it. “Until we treat this as a criminal conspiracy, of criminal racketeers, resulting in global terrorism for the purpose of profiteering and murder; until we have that conversation, we’re having the wrong conversation.” He also exposes COVID as bio-weapon as part of his presentation.

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                      https://www.bitchute.com/video/eu4l1DPcsWjb/
                      Where's the EVIDENCE, Sid? You said this would be an evidenced-based thread. Martin made lots of allegations/accusations in that video but I didn't see or hear much (if anything) that would be considered hard evidence. Where are the bank statements proving kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry to political leaders? Where are the copies of internal correspondence proving the objectives of "profiteering and murder?" Where are the notarized statements of the whistle blowers? Etc.

                      p.s. Apparently Martin did something similar last spring that was less than enthusiastically received.

                      https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...ped-bioweapon/
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                      "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                      "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                      "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

                        Where's the EVIDENCE, Sid? You said this would be an evidenced-based thread. Martin made lots of allegations/accusations in that video but I didn't see or hear much (if anything) that would be considered hard evidence. Where are the bank statements proving kickbacks from the pharmaceutical industry to political leaders? Where are the copies of internal correspondence proving the objectives of "profiteering and murder?" Where are the notarized statements of the whistle blowers? Etc.

                        p.s. Apparently Martin did something similar last spring that was less than enthusiastically received.

                        https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...ped-bioweapon/
                        Oh, the genius, Peter is now into his third year of putting his foot in his mouth by citing pharma-sponsored propaganda. If you listened to that video and that is the best you have to offer, that is pathetic. Have you even listened to the speech or only brainlessly searched for an ad hominem attack against Dr. Martin?
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                        Dr David Martins's main thesis is that the WHO is a criminal organization that, from its inception, made itself immune from criminal prosecution and
                        supported the pseudoscience of Eugenics and "population control" and that the pandemic was a planned genocide.

                        He also states that starting in 1913, many of the elite industrialists were avid supporters of Eugenics, starting with the Carnegie Endowment in 1913 with the Eugenics Record Office of Cold Spring Harbor
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugeni...10%20to%201939.

                        As well as the Rockefellers' support of Eugenics throughout the early 20th century, including funding German Scientist's "research" used for rationale to exterminate the Jewish people in World War 2. The Rockefeller Foundation, along with the Carnegie Institution, was the primary financier for the Eugenics Record Office, until 1939. The foundation also provided grants to Margaret Sanger and Alexis Carrel, who supported birth control, compulsory sterilization and eugenics.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockef...and%20eugenics.

                        But it did not end there; even after the horrific excesses of genocide in WW2, Rockefeller funded the criminal organization of the WHO, made the outspoken Eugenecist Dr. Brock Chisholm its first Director General.

                        Evidence
                        For example , let's start at the beginning, where David said that the WHO made itself immune from any form of criminal prosecution.


                        ANNEX VII – THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION1 In their application to the World Health Organization (hereinafter called “the Organization”) the standard clauses shall operate subject to the following modifications: 1. Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I), of Article VII shall extend to persons designated to serve on the Executive Board of the Organization, their alternates and advisers, except that any waiver of the immunity of any such persons under Section 16 shall be by the Board. 2. (i) Experts (other than officials coming within the scope of Article VI) serving on committees of, or performing missions for, the Organization shall be accorded the following privileges and immunities so far as is necessary for the effective exercise of their functions, including the time spent on journeys in connexion with service on such committees or missions: (a) Immunity from personal arrest or seizure of their personal baggage; (b) In respect of words spoken or written or acts done by them in the performance of their official functions, immunity of legal process of every kind, such immunity to continue notwithstanding that the persons concerned are no longer serving on committees of, or employed on missions for, the Organization; (c) The same facilities in respect of currency and exchange restrictions and in respect of their personal baggage as are accorded to officials of foreign governments on temporary official missions; (d) Inviolability for all papers and documents; (e) For the purpose of their communications with the Organization, the right to use codes and to receive papers or correspondence by courier or in sealed bags. (ii) The privileges and immunities set forth in paragraphs (b) and (e) above shall be accorded to persons serving on Expert Advisory Panels of the Organization in the exercise of their functions as such. (iii) Privileges and immunities are granted to the experts of the Organization in the interests of the Organization and not for the personal benefit of the individuals themselves. The Organization shall have the right and the duty to waive the immunity of any expert in any case where in its opinion the immunity would impede the course of justice and it can be waived without prejudice to the interests of the Organization. 3. Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I), of Article VII shall extend to the representatives of Associate Members participating in the work of the Organization in accordance with Articles 8 and 47 of the Constitution. 4. The privileges, immunities, exemptions and facilities referred to in Section 21 of the standard clauses shall also be accorded to any Deputy Director-General, Assistant Director-General and Regional Director of the Organization. –––––––––– _________ 1 Adopted by the First World Health Assembly on 17 July 1948 (Off. Rec. Wld Hlth Org. 13, 97, 332) and amended by the Third, Tenth and Eleventh World Health Assemblies (resolutions WHA3.102, WHA10.26 and WHA11.30)."

                        Here is the breakdown:

                        "ANNEX VII – THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION" contains several references to immunity for various officials and experts of the World Health Organization (WHO). Here's a breakdown:
                        1. Modifications affecting persons on the Executive Board:
                          • Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I) of Article VII, extend to persons designated to serve on the Executive Board, their alternates, and advisers. If any immunity waiver is needed for these individuals, the Board is responsible for it.
                        2. Immunities for experts:
                          • Immunity from personal arrest or the seizure of personal baggage.
                          • Immunity from legal processes related to words spoken/written or acts done in the performance of their official duties. This immunity continues even after their service on committees or missions ends.
                          • Same privileges regarding currency/exchange restrictions and personal baggage as foreign officials on temporary missions.
                          • Inviolability (protection) for all papers and documents.
                          • The right to use codes and receive certain types of correspondence under protection.

                          Furthermore, experts on Expert Advisory Panels get certain privileges and immunities related to communication and legal processes. The Organization also retains the right to waive these immunities if it believes doing so won't harm the Organization's interests and would promote justice.
                        3. Associate Members:
                          • Representatives of Associate Members participating in WHO's work are also covered under Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I) of Article VII.
                        4. Certain higher-ranked officials:
                          • Privileges, immunities, exemptions, and facilities mentioned in Section 21 of the standard clauses are also extended to Deputy Director-General, Assistant Director-General, and Regional Director of WHO.

                        To summarize, the above provisions in the annex ensure that certain officials and experts affiliated with the WHO are accorded specific privileges and immunities.


                        Dr. Martin also states that from its inception in 1948 the WHO supported Eugenics and Population Control aka Depopulation.

                        Indeed the First Director General of the WHO, the Canadian Dr.Chisholm, was a Marxist, Eugenecist, and staunch population control advocate.



                        'Brock Chisholm, the World Health Organization, and the Cold War'

                        https://networks.h-net.org/node/3449/reviews/27357/dooley-farley-brock-chisholm-world-health-organization-and-cold-war


                        "Farley sees the intractability of problems related to overpopulation and famine to be the principal factors that drew the WHO into debates about family planning and population control, debates that would prove nearly fatal to the organization and that were perhaps fatal to Chisholm's career. Chisholm, long before he assumed office at the WHO, was an active proponent of population control and eugenics, and Farley asserts that it was inevitable that he would eventually place "family planning" on the WHO agenda. "



                        Please give us very specific parts of David Martins's speech where you assert "no Evidence.".
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                          Oh, the genius, Peter is now into his third year of putting his foot in his mouth by citing pharma-sponsored propaganda. If you listened to that video and that is the best you have to offer, that is pathetic. Have you even listened to the speech or only brainlessly searched for an ad hominem attack against Dr. Martin?
                          .
                          Dr David Martins's main thesis is that the WHO is a criminal organization that, from its inception, made itself immune from criminal prosecution and
                          supported the pseudoscience of Eugenics and "population control" and that the pandemic was a planned genocide.

                          He also states that starting in 1913, many of the elite industrialists were avid supporters of Eugenics, starting with the Carnegie Endowment in 1913 with the Eugenics Record Office of Cold Spring Harbor
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugeni...10%20to%201939.

                          As well as the Rockefellers' support of Eugenics throughout the early 20th century, including funding German Scientist's "research" used for rationale to exterminate the Jewish people in World War 2. The Rockefeller Foundation, along with the Carnegie Institution, was the primary financier for the Eugenics Record Office, until 1939. The foundation also provided grants to Margaret Sanger and Alexis Carrel, who supported birth control, compulsory sterilization and eugenics.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockef...and%20eugenics.

                          But it did not end there; even after the horrific excesses of genocide in WW2, Rockefeller funded the criminal organization of the WHO, made the outspoken Eugenecist Dr. Brock Chisholm its first Director General.

                          Evidence
                          For example , let's start at the beginning, where David said that the WHO made itself immune from any form of criminal prosecution.


                          ANNEX VII – THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION1 In their application to the World Health Organization (hereinafter called “the Organization”) the standard clauses shall operate subject to the following modifications: 1. Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I), of Article VII shall extend to persons designated to serve on the Executive Board of the Organization, their alternates and advisers, except that any waiver of the immunity of any such persons under Section 16 shall be by the Board. 2. (i) Experts (other than officials coming within the scope of Article VI) serving on committees of, or performing missions for, the Organization shall be accorded the following privileges and immunities so far as is necessary for the effective exercise of their functions, including the time spent on journeys in connexion with service on such committees or missions: (a) Immunity from personal arrest or seizure of their personal baggage; (b) In respect of words spoken or written or acts done by them in the performance of their official functions, immunity of legal process of every kind, such immunity to continue notwithstanding that the persons concerned are no longer serving on committees of, or employed on missions for, the Organization; (c) The same facilities in respect of currency and exchange restrictions and in respect of their personal baggage as are accorded to officials of foreign governments on temporary official missions; (d) Inviolability for all papers and documents; (e) For the purpose of their communications with the Organization, the right to use codes and to receive papers or correspondence by courier or in sealed bags. (ii) The privileges and immunities set forth in paragraphs (b) and (e) above shall be accorded to persons serving on Expert Advisory Panels of the Organization in the exercise of their functions as such. (iii) Privileges and immunities are granted to the experts of the Organization in the interests of the Organization and not for the personal benefit of the individuals themselves. The Organization shall have the right and the duty to waive the immunity of any expert in any case where in its opinion the immunity would impede the course of justice and it can be waived without prejudice to the interests of the Organization. 3. Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I), of Article VII shall extend to the representatives of Associate Members participating in the work of the Organization in accordance with Articles 8 and 47 of the Constitution. 4. The privileges, immunities, exemptions and facilities referred to in Section 21 of the standard clauses shall also be accorded to any Deputy Director-General, Assistant Director-General and Regional Director of the Organization. –––––––––– _________ 1 Adopted by the First World Health Assembly on 17 July 1948 (Off. Rec. Wld Hlth Org. 13, 97, 332) and amended by the Third, Tenth and Eleventh World Health Assemblies (resolutions WHA3.102, WHA10.26 and WHA11.30)."

                          Here is the breakdown:

                          "ANNEX VII – THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION" contains several references to immunity for various officials and experts of the World Health Organization (WHO). Here's a breakdown:
                          1. Modifications affecting persons on the Executive Board:
                            • Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I) of Article VII, extend to persons designated to serve on the Executive Board, their alternates, and advisers. If any immunity waiver is needed for these individuals, the Board is responsible for it.
                          2. Immunities for experts:
                            • Immunity from personal arrest or the seizure of personal baggage.
                            • Immunity from legal processes related to words spoken/written or acts done in the performance of their official duties. This immunity continues even after their service on committees or missions ends.
                            • Same privileges regarding currency/exchange restrictions and personal baggage as foreign officials on temporary missions.
                            • Inviolability (protection) for all papers and documents.
                            • The right to use codes and receive certain types of correspondence under protection.

                            Furthermore, experts on Expert Advisory Panels get certain privileges and immunities related to communication and legal processes. The Organization also retains the right to waive these immunities if it believes doing so won't harm the Organization's interests and would promote justice.
                          3. Associate Members:
                            • Representatives of Associate Members participating in WHO's work are also covered under Article V and Section 25, paragraphs 1 and 2 (I) of Article VII.
                          4. Certain higher-ranked officials:
                            • Privileges, immunities, exemptions, and facilities mentioned in Section 21 of the standard clauses are also extended to Deputy Director-General, Assistant Director-General, and Regional Director of WHO.

                          To summarize, the above provisions in the annex ensure that certain officials and experts affiliated with the WHO are accorded specific privileges and immunities.


                          Dr. Martin also states that from its inception in 1948 the WHO supported Eugenics and Population Control aka Depopulation.

                          Indeed the First Director General of the WHO, the Canadian Dr.Chisholm, was a Marxist, Eugenecist, and staunch population control advocate.



                          'Brock Chisholm, the World Health Organization, and the Cold War'

                          https://networks.h-net.org/node/3449/reviews/27357/dooley-farley-brock-chisholm-world-health-organization-and-cold-war


                          "Farley sees the intractability of problems related to overpopulation and famine to be the principal factors that drew the WHO into debates about family planning and population control, debates that would prove nearly fatal to the organization and that were perhaps fatal to Chisholm's career. Chisholm, long before he assumed office at the WHO, was an active proponent of population control and eugenics, and Farley asserts that it was inevitable that he would eventually place "family planning" on the WHO agenda. "



                          Please give us very specific parts of David Martins's speech where you assert "no Evidence.".
                          My intention is to read and respond to this but it may be a couple of days before I have time to get to it. Just copying it here for now so as to ward off your morning editing sessions.
                          "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                          "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                          "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

                            My intention is to read and respond to this but it may be a couple of days before I have time to get to it. Just copying it here for now so as to ward off your morning editing sessions.
                            Sure, nothing to ward off, sometimes I simply add more when I have time or improve on how I worded something but never change the fundamental message. A good start would be to watch the actual video and decide for yourself instead of letting others do the thinking for you. He cites plenty of verifiable evidence in his
                            speech. The examples I gave are a couple of examples I "fact-checked".
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                              CO2 is harmless trace gas in the air, as compared to nitrogen (78%) and oxygen (21%), CO2 makes up only 0.03-0.04% (300-400ppm), even far behind the other trace element, noble gas argon (0.9%, or 9000ppm). Though it only has such a small part, CO2 is the key food for plants. In fact, the weight of a tree does not come from soil, but almost 100% from air, to be exact, from CO2. This was discovered in 17th century by a Belgian scientist Johann Baptista van Helmont. He carried out an experiment in which he planted a willow tree in a pot. After 5 years he weighed the tree, finding that it had gained 75 kg, whilst the soil had only lost 57 g. This is a process called sequestration (that is, turning CO2 as carbon in solid forms). The most beautiful, magic and beneficial chemical reaction in life is the photosynthesis: 6 CO2 and 6 water molecules react under sunlight and produce one glucose and release 6 Oxygen molecules, one of the first processes that started all life 3.8 billion years ago on earth, and give all the richness of life today. Human beings are animals, and all animals, without exception, produce CO2 in its biological process, while plants produce and absorb, with net absorption (and gain most of its weight through CO2). Each human body produces 2 tons of CO2 per year. 2 tons? That sounds horrible! But that may not be so bad when you look at the big picture. Let’s look at some numbers (unit: GT, or billion ton, per year): Vegetation: absorb 120, emit 60, net absorb 60 Ocean: absorb/emit 90 Soil: absorb/emit 59.6 Fossil fuel: emit 6.3 Of which by cars in US: 1.5 Livestock production: emit 8.1 Human population biological process: 16 Livestock production and fossil fuel emit 14.4 GT, plus human, total 30.4 GT, which is only half of total absorption from vegetation, 60 GT. The other 30 GT may be just balanced out by the biological activities of other animals. Actually the balance of emission/absorption process is very dynamic. There are HUGE reserves of CO2 in ocean and soil, and their emission/absorption are dynamically adjusted to keep the atmosphere CO2 in balance. Here are the reserve of CO2 (unit: GT or billion ton) Deep Ocean: 38,000 Ocean Surface: 1000 Soil: 2500 Atmosphere: 3000 (calculated from 0.04%, or 400 ppm, of air composition) Vegetation: 600 Only a small fractions of these reserves participate in the emission/absorption process, thus the balance can be restored from even smaller fractions from the reverse. Furthermore, vegetation, which is the main driver for net CO2 absorption, has a beautiful negative feedback mechanism: the higher CO2 concentration in the air, the better plants grow, thus the more CO2 they absorb and lower the CO2 level, which in return, contribute to the balancing of CO2 in atmosphere at a certain level. So be very thankful to CO2, a trace gas in atmosphere that gives all the greenness in this world. All your foods come from plants, most weight of all plants come from CO2.

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