Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Response

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

I have not lost anything, The biggest loser is the CFC. The CFC lost a sponsor who has paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in sponsorship

We lost that person long time ago, well before I returned to chess in 2007. HTH.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

Ad hominem attack, check. I am not an apologist for anyone.

You were the one that attacked me as an "apologist" to start with and censored my reply on the CFC Forum, you unbelievable chickensh*t coward. You have been an apologist For the last 18 months, starting with your quotes in the Globe and Mail apologizing for Kirsans consorting with dictatators ("you attribute that to his "peaceful Budhist nature") apologizing for his delusional aliens as "someones crazy uncle" or your half baked moronic theory here on chesstalk that Kirsan need's to appear insane for defensive reasons. and finally saying that you don't believe the US Treasury dept was justified in sanctioning him. Oh and the fact that his aides murdered an opposition journalist while he was a dictator is something you imply we should all ignore.

You lost because you acted like a spoiled petulant child.

I have not lost anything, The biggest loser is the CFC. The CFC lost a sponsor who has paid out hundreds of thousands of dollars in sponsorship and assisted two Canadian players that became grandmasters. The CFC has tarnished it's reputation by endorsing someone who is a colleague of Putin, ex dictator who's under sanctions for facilitating ISIS transactions and lost an invaluable relationship with Garry Kasparov for chess in Canada.

The rest of your post and follow up post like the first sentence is not credible and is in fact a pile of incoherent bullsh*t that I am not going to waste time replying to. Whatever you think of my behavior is of no relevance whatsoever. My motives are not about wining or losing but trying to do great things for chess in Canada as I have done many times in the past. Thanks to you I have given up on chess in Canada. Congratulations Vlad you win!

[Paul Bonham]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

How can he (Kirsan Ilyumzhinov) keep the promise if he is on the sanctions list? Seems like you are advocating for people to break the law or at least the U.S. law.

Wow, there's an admission of failure if I ever saw one. Vlad Drkulec didn't even think of the scenario of Kirsan being sanctioned by the U.S. government! Vlad's eyes must have just went big seeing all that money coming from FIDE, and the deal was done! Well, I do recall that the possibility of Kirsan being sanctioned was part of the debate before that FIDE election, so this is all on Vlad. I was one who specifically predicted that the CFC would never see all that money, and my prediction was spot on.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Stop misrepresenting Vlad!

Vlad don't misrepresent things I have said to you in private messages. Unlike the CFC forums you administer and abuse I can respond to your bullSh*t here. To be clear I told Vlad that since I am unable to properly respond to accusations of libel without those too being deemed libelous and deleted that he remove the thread entirely. My complaint had nothing whatsoever to do with Vlad's opinions on Kasparov's dealings and everything to do with Vlad denying me a response to his allegations. I also said that if I have to hire a lawyer to force the CFC to delete the thread that I would hold the CFC liable for the legal costs in doing this.

It would be up to a judge to decide if we were liable for not allowing you to post libelous statements.

Note that I had no interest in the CFC's money simply the thread being removed

Of course you are interested in censorship of my response to your libelous statements.

After I saw no response to this I further communicated to Vlad that I decided i would not take legal action but simply respond here on Chess talk where reasonable posts are not censored as I have done.

Now that I have figured out a way around the block on Cogeco by Lunar Pages I will cheerfully respond to your poorly reasoned arguments here as well.

I also told Vlad that he simply is not worth it and his post above further cements my opinion of his worthlessness on the matter.

You sure spend a lot of time haranguing someone who you repeatedly say is not worth it.

I also see that Vlad implies on the another thread in the CFC forum (that I am unable respond to) that I am somehow out to destroy the CFC. Nothing could be further from the truth!

Of course you are only out to spread goodness and light <cough> sore loser <cough>.

In one of the posts I did that Vlad deemed libelous I simply pasted a reply from voting member Felix Dumont to Vlad's request to Felix not to call the CFC deal a "bribe". Even reporting what others have posted is libelous?

Actually Sid you started out making libelous claims to which I responded. While you may be relying on U.S. interpretations of what constitutes libel you should know that standards in Canada are not the same as the U.S. where it is much harder to get a judgement. In fact in Quebec there is one decision that indicates you can be successfully sued for libel even if what you are saying is true.

(see below this is yet another example of what Vlad with his brilliant legal mind deems libelous) Vlad you refer to me as part of the lunatic fringe and libelous person?? You should look at yourself in the mirror. By the way I fully agree with Felix's opinion and none of your veiled threats in the CFC's forum will change my mind or intimidate me. This is how Vlad treats a past donor that has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the CFC.

Yes, horrors I vote in the best interest of the CFC and not as that past donor commands me to vote. You said before that you gave $120,000 and now we are somehow up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

No need to reply Vlad, I am sure I am not alone in being sick from the aroma of your insipid posts. I wish the CFC the best and hopefully a better president some day.

Re : Re: Re : Executive Election Voting - When ?

I hope so too in which case I won't have to deal with childish brats throwing temper tantrums because we didn't vote the way they wanted us to.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

At the CFC discussion board apparently Vlad took umbrage to my remark that I view the CFC's well known endorsement of Kirsan in exchange for $80,000.00 in tournament sponsorship as a bribe. A characterization and view that was originally posted here by CFC Voting Member Felix Dumont at the time of the deal. Here is my original post here that prompted Vlad's post.



Hers is Vlad's response on the CFC discussion board



Here are the basic points that I tried make on the CFC forum before they were edited out and then the thread was locked out.

1) In reference to Vlad"s remark that I am a "Kasparov apologist" i said that unlike him i am not an apologist for a corrupt ex dictator who's aides murdered an opposition journalist and is under sanctions for being a facilitator of ISIS transactions.

Ad hominem attack check. I am not an apologist for anyone. You lost because you acted like a spoiled petulant child.

2) In reference to his accusation that the Kasparov deal with Leong is comparable to Kirsan using FIDE resources to selectively dole out sponsorship to Federations that endorsed him (this is why i view it as a bribe and not just a campaign promise) Kasparov's deal was fully financed by the Kasparov Chess Foundation and fully Disclosed.

So your claim is that the Kasparov foundation was going to pay for the new FIDE office in Singapore out of its own funds? That seems a bit odd and would probably run up against some rules about charity spending. The deal was disclosed only after the New York Times broke the story. There were also claims as I recall that the disclosure was somehow involved the violation of someone's email.

Furthermore Vlad's suggested that as part of the deal a FIDE office would be set up in Leong's country of Signapore that would actually cost FIDE more then $500,000.00. This is pure conjecture on Vlad's part as a FIDE office could be set up for as little as $2,500.00 by simply legally registering FIDE with a local lawyers office in Signapore.

So you think that FIDE could run all of its committees and commissions out of a lawyer's office for $2500. It would seem that would include the trainers commission, the arbiters commission and even the executive committee. It also said that the office would be headed by IL presumable Leong. What would be the logic of running those committees and commissions out of a Singapore lawyer's office? That seems a remarkable claim. How would Leong then be the head of the office? Would the committee members meet inside of one of this hypothetical lawyer's filing cabinets?

Furthermore Kasparov's billionaire colleague and chess patron offered to inject $10,000,000.00 into FIDE , a promise that was doubled by Kirsan and never kept.

How can he keep the promise if he is on the sanctions list? Seems like you are advocating for people to break the law or at least the U.S. law.

3) Vlad continually insists that no member of his executive get's any benefits from FIDE on the basis that arbitration jobs are paid for by the tournament organizers. What he fails to state is Hal Himself stated to me that he gets paid jobs from FIDE as did CFC executive Fred Mckim on this very site. Not only that but during the 2010 FIDE election Karpov vs Krsan according to Kevin Spraggett Hal Bond himself declared he was conflicted out to participate, something not done during the 2014 FIDE election.

Even if you are correct, which I do not believe based on conversations with Hal and my reading of NFP act government websites and the NFP act itself, doing work for FIDE as an arbiter would not create a conflict of interest. The conflict of interest would exist if Hal put the interests of FIDE above the interests of the CFC. The interests of FIDE and the interests of the CFC are shared interests as at least one of your sycophants in the peanut gallery has pointed out recently. Hal owes a duty of care to the CFC and not to the Kasparov campaign as you seem to hope for.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Vlad Drkulec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Respo

“Most people, in fact, will not take the trouble in finding out the truth, but are much more inclined to accept the first story they hear.”
- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

“You should punish in the same manner those who commit crimes with those who accuse falsely.”
- Thucydides

“In a democracy, someone who fails to get elected to office can always console himself with the thought that there was something not quite fair about it.”
- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

Carved at a Ancient Greek Temple at Delphi, the gist of the message translated is
"The man or woman who loses sight of human limitations and acts arrogantly and with violence, as if immortal. And pays a terrible price."

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Stop misrepresenting Vlad!

You're missing quite a bit Neil.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drkulec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Respo

“Most people, in fact, will not take the trouble in finding out the truth, but are much more inclined to accept the first story they hear.”
- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

“You should punish in the same manner those who commit crimes with those who accuse falsely.”
- Thucydides

“In a democracy, someone who fails to get elected to office can always console himself with the thought that there was something not quite fair about it.”
- Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War

[Garland Best]

Re: Stop misrepresenting Vlad!

I received an email from Vlad, as he is encountering issues posting to Chesstalk. He writes "The recipients for 2015 included the Kitchener Chessfest (which held a GM norm Scheveningen tournament last summer) and the Alberta Chess Association which held two tournaments, one in each of Edmonton and Calgary."

[Garland Best]

Re: Stop misrepresenting Vlad!

The CFC was granted $80 in funding to run tournaments, with $10k each to go into separate tournaments, 2 per year. The tournaments cannot be the Cdn Open, CYCC or any Canadian Championships. Anyone in Canada can bid.

What tournaments received this grant in 2015?

[Neil Frarey]

Re: Stop misrepresenting Vlad!

Sid, let me see if I get this whole Drkulec saga straight...

You warn Drkulec time and time again about the corrupt nature of Ilyumzhinov.

Disregarding your warnings, Drkulec whole heartily gives Ilyumzhinov his support.

Drkulec receives 80k from Ilyumzhinov.

...is that about right, or do I have that all wrong , am I missing something here?



...

[Sid Belzberg]

Stop misrepresenting Vlad!

Thank you for the kind words Nigel.

Sid threatened me with legal action if I did not remove the post outlining Kasparov's deal with Leong. I didn't see his post until after he had withdrawn the threat. I could imagine the press that would generate for Kasparov. I guess its easier to threaten me than the NY Times which first broke the story. Contrary to Sid's assertions the promises contained in that agreement required significant expenditures of FIDE money and required establishing a FIDE office in Singapore (which would have cost way more than any norm tournaments) and gave Leong control of all of the FIDE commissions at least that's the way it seems on a quick reading of the details. Kasparov and Leong were sanctioned for that arrangement.
I am posting this from Tim Hortons. I won't have time for very much posting to chesstalk going forward unless the block to posting from home is removed.

Its been fun. Its been infuriating. For chess in Canada the best is yet to come. We are moving ahead with the Premium Chess deal which will likely have significant positive repercussions on our bottom line and also in the range of services that we will be able to offer particularly in the Junior Arena.

We will be making some significant announcements in the coming weeks. Stay tuned to the CFC forums. Hopefully someone who can post here will repost the highlights.

Vlad don't misrepresent things I have said to you in private messages. Unlike the CFC forums you administer and abuse I can respond to your bullSh*t here. To be clear I told Vlad that since I am unable to properly respond to accusations of libel without those too being deemed libelous and deleted that he remove the thread entirely. My complaint had nothing whatsoever to do with Vlad's opinions on Kasparov's dealings and everything to do with Vlad denying me a response to his allegations. I also said that if I have to hire a lawyer to force the CFC to delete the thread that I would hold the CFC liable for the legal costs in doing this.Note that I had no interest in the CFC's money simply the thread being removed After I saw no response to this I further communicated to Vlad that I decided i would not take legal action but simply respond here on Chess talk where reasonable posts are not censored as I have done. I also told Vlad that he simply is not worth it and his post above further cements my opinion of his worthlessness on the matter.

I also see that Vlad implies on the another thread in the CFC forum (that I am unable respond to) that I am somehow out to destroy the CFC. Nothing could be further from the truth!

In one of the posts I did that Vlad deemed libelous I simply pasted a reply from voting member Felix Dumont to Vlad's request to Felix not to call the CFC deal a "bribe". Even reporting what others have posted is libelous? (see below this is yet another example of what Vlad with his brilliant legal mind deems libelous) Vlad you refer to me as part of the lunatic fringe and libelous person?? You should look at yourself in the mirror. By the way I fully agree with Felix's opinion and none of your veiled threats in the CFC's forum will change my mind or intimidate me. This is how Vlad treats a past donor that has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the CFC.
No need to reply Vlad, I am sure I am not alone in being sick from the aroma of your insipid posts. I wish the CFC the best and hopefully a better president some day.

Re : Re: Re : Executive Election Voting - When ?

Quote Originally Posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
Felix please remove your reference to a bribe.

Sasha remove your reference to a bribe and a criminal offense. You have crossed the line.

I did, although this is what it is.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Keep up the good work, Vlad!

Lots of websites/discussion boards adopt a cautious approach when potentially libelous remarks are posted there. Nothing new here. And this has, in any case, the fetid and fermented aroma of sour grapes over Vlad's string of successes and victories in the administration and organization of Canadian chess.

Keep up the good work, Vlad. May your enemies' socks bunch up and cause them excruciating discomfort, and may their underwear chafe mercilessly.

Thank you for the kind words Nigel.

Sid threatened me with legal action if I did not remove the post outlining Kasparov's deal with Leong. I didn't see his post until after he had withdrawn the threat. I could imagine the press that would generate for Kasparov. I guess its easier to threaten me than the NY Times which first broke the story. Contrary to Sid's assertions the promises contained in that agreement required significant expenditures of FIDE money and required establishing a FIDE office in Singapore (which would have cost way more than any norm tournaments) and gave Leong control of all of the FIDE commissions at least that's the way it seems on a quick reading of the details. Kasparov and Leong were sanctioned for that arrangement.
I am posting this from Tim Hortons. I won't have time for very much posting to chesstalk going forward unless the block to posting from home is removed.

Its been fun. Its been infuriating. For chess in Canada the best is yet to come. We are moving ahead with the Premium Chess deal which will likely have significant positive repercussions on our bottom line and also in the range of services that we will be able to offer particularly in the Junior Arena.

We will be making some significant announcements in the coming weeks. Stay tuned to the CFC forums. Hopefully someone who can post here will repost the highlights.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drkulec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Respo

For a man who claims how the "left wing" attempts to suppress his statements, seems a little odd to censor somebody. I guess when a person knows they've been caught red handed and in violation of sanctions and NFP guidelines, what other option is there? By censoring, he only is making himself more guilty then he already was.

You descend into more bizarre behaviour with every post.

[Neil Frarey]

Re: Keep up the good work, Vlad!

Alright alright, going on well past 6ix AM+ here in the EST. Still stoked on 1st day shoot, not a wink yet, playing Bowie 'till dawn (R.I.P. Jonesy)! I'll catch up to y'all like L8tR ya???

Play safe.

peace.
n.