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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
    Uh, no, I think you'll have to contact your local Mensa branch. I've already offered to write two tests, one I've never written before in my life, which Mensa recognizes as IQ tests. To my knowledge, they are the only tests recognized as IQ tests by Mensa that can be written in such a way that people in different cities (or even countries) can write identical tests at the same time. Despite this, they were deemed unacceptable by you. If you think there's another suitable test, you find it. I'm not your errand boy.

    You remind me of Trump. You hadn't mentioned your precious IQ for ages, then as soon as I pointed out that Israeli police engaged in religious discrimination, and pointed out that you were justifying it, you bring it up again. You're always trying to distract from the real issues. In Israel, Muslims are, at times, treated like second class citizens. This is a fact. And justifying it makes you an Islamophobe.

    Now go on and deflect some more by bragging about your results on some Internet IQ test.
    Ben you are just making up excuses because you do not want to lose $1000.00. I can't fill out forms for you to schedule a test https://www.us.mensa.org/join/testin...local-contact/. You made the offer not me. Next time you open your big mouth with a wager offer think if you can win it or not. Now you just look like an idiot trying to slither out of a bet that you probably would lose.

    As for distracting from the real issues you simply want to make Israel look bad for trying to prevent loss of life. Hamas uses the same tactics by hiding women and children among terrorists during bombing raids. You talk about how i am homophobic, transphobic etc. Go to Gaza for a while and see how they treat gays and trans people or for that matter anyone that does not practice Islam the way they say it should be practiced replete with Jihad.
    Like I said your words are as worthless as the offers and challenges you post here. I brought up the test challenges so that the chesstalk community could see for themselves just how hollow you really are. .
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Wednesday, 26th July, 2017, 03:21 PM.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Daswani is trolling you, Tom. He is no more a libertarian than Obama was. He is saying whatever will gain a reaction. I am sure the Daswani who posts here is a racist though perhaps in real life he isn't so overt. His hatred for Israel and Jewish people and people who are white is clear in his postings here.

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
    Trump to reinstate US military ban on transgender people

    Trump was an ass when he was a rich playboy. When an ass of that magnitude ascends to the Presidency, he's no longer merely an ass, but a fucking fascist. Why can't you comprehend that? Is it because you're white, so he's not deporting your family members? Is it because you're male, so he's not appointing judges that are intent on restricting your access to medical procedures? Is it because you're straight and cis, so he's not treating you like a second class citizen and banning you from government work? Is it because you're Canadian, and are simply ignorant to what's happening in the United States? Or is it because you're all these things, and because your selfish ass is unable to imagine what it might be like to not be all these things and to be under attack from Trump and the neo-fascist religious faction of the Republican Party whose ascendancy to power he's facilitated?


    Are you familiar with the term RINO? Republican In Name Only? You're a LION. Libertarian In Only Name. :)

    If you want to claim to be socially liberal, you have to believe in the equality of men and women. And when you actively participate in the normalization of sexual assault by dismissing the President having bragged about sexual assault as normal "locker room" talk, you're actively harming women.

    You remind me of this classic joke about libertarians:

    Republicans be like, "Have you ever hated the poor?"
    Libertarians be like, "Have you ever hated the poor... on weeeeeeeeed?


    Thankfully, my generation of libertarians is saving the good name of libertarianism by recognizing:
    a) that systemic modes of oppression exist in our society; and
    b) that dismantling these systemic modes of oppression is imperative to creating a society in which everyone is a free actor.

    When you participate in the normalization of these systemic modes of oppression, as you do, you are doing the opposite of creating of a society in which everyone is a free actor. Your contribution to this world, at least on ChessTalk, is to reinforce the oppressive norms of a society in which some actors are more free than others.
    Trump is a fascist ... in your opinion. Shockingly other people disagree. Evidently tens of millions of people have a different opinion, unless of course you believe that: 1) these people are a bunch of idiots and/or 2) these people want to live under fascism. Or perhaps they are all just straight white males and you are simultaneously heterophobic, racist and sexist. If so, bravo to you in your efficiency.

    If Trump is deporting people I imagine it is because they are breaking the law in being there. I imagine if I just walked across the border tomorrow and tried to live in the US they would try to deport me, too.

    What medical procedures? Has Roe v Wade been overturned? I must have missed that.

    I have no idea specifically why Trump tweeted what he did. Maybe he wants to protect trangendered people, since being in the military seems a dangerous job (from the Paul Bonham school of "any explanation is possible").
    Seriously, I prefer to save judgement until I hear the rationale and the result of any court case.

    And ya, I am a Canadian so I care more about who would be more likely to lead the world into war. I judge Trump as having less of a chance.

    In chess terms, Clinton is a move that loses a piece. Trump is an unknown move that could lead to any result. I would choose the unknown evil over the known evil every time.

    I find it scary that you would consider yourself libertarian. I consider you no less authoritarian than the Christian Coalition types of the late 1980s / early 1990s (see: Pat Robertson). Different set of convictions, but all of them of the type that because you believe in something I must believe it, too. Further I must walk lockstep with you or I am some sort of evildoer. Sorry, try again. I'm not buying it.
    Last edited by Tom O'Donnell; Wednesday, 26th July, 2017, 02:33 PM.

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  • Ben Daswani
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
    You would have to contact your local Mensa branch. I would expect it does but have no idea if each branch gives the exact same test or if it is similar in structure but the ordering of figures ,words to unscramble, etc are different.
    Uh, no, I think you'll have to contact your local Mensa branch. I've already offered to write two tests, one I've never written before in my life, which Mensa recognizes as IQ tests. To my knowledge, they are the only tests recognized as IQ tests by Mensa that can be written in such a way that people in different cities (or even countries) can write identical tests at the same time. Despite this, they were deemed unacceptable by you. If you think there's another suitable test, you find it. I'm not your errand boy.

    You remind me of Trump. You hadn't mentioned your precious IQ for ages, then as soon as I pointed out that Israeli police engaged in religious discrimination, and pointed out that you were justifying it, you bring it up again. You're always trying to distract from the real issues. In Israel, Muslims are, at times, treated like second class citizens. This is a fact. And justifying it makes you an Islamophobe.

    Now go on and deflect some more by bragging about your results on some Internet IQ test.

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  • Ben Daswani
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    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    Trump is an ass.
    Trump to reinstate US military ban on transgender people

    Trump was an ass when he was a rich playboy. When an ass of that magnitude ascends to the Presidency, he's no longer merely an ass, but a fucking fascist. Why can't you comprehend that? Is it because you're white, so he's not deporting your family members? Is it because you're male, so he's not appointing judges that are intent on restricting your access to medical procedures? Is it because you're straight and cis, so he's not treating you like a second class citizen and banning you from government work? Is it because you're Canadian, and are simply ignorant to what's happening in the United States? Or is it because you're all these things, and because your selfish ass is unable to imagine what it might be like to not be all these things and to be under attack from Trump and the neo-fascist religious faction of the Republican Party whose ascendancy to power he's facilitated?

    I am a fiscal conservative but mostly a social liberal.
    Are you familiar with the term RINO? Republican In Name Only? You're a LION. Libertarian In Only Name. :)

    If you want to claim to be socially liberal, you have to believe in the equality of men and women. And when you actively participate in the normalization of sexual assault by dismissing the President having bragged about sexual assault as normal "locker room" talk, you're actively harming women.

    You remind me of this classic joke about libertarians:

    Republicans be like, "Have you ever hated the poor?"
    Libertarians be like, "Have you ever hated the poor... on weeeeeeeeed?


    Thankfully, my generation of libertarians is saving the good name of libertarianism by recognizing:
    a) that systemic modes of oppression exist in our society; and
    b) that dismantling these systemic modes of oppression is imperative to creating a society in which everyone is a free actor.

    When you participate in the normalization of these systemic modes of oppression, as you do, you are doing the opposite of creating of a society in which everyone is a free actor. Your contribution to this world, at least on ChessTalk, is to reinforce the oppressive norms of a society in which some actors are more free than others.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Was it the Russians or was it the Democrat's own IT contractors

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...e-country.html

    There are a whole lot of inappropriate things going on on Democrat computers.

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    An article about two men: one, a man of integrity; the other, a piece of human filth.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...ccains-heroism
    It sure would seem from the article that McCain is a man of integrity, at least when he was young.

    As he aged, I would call him something else. Jimmy Carter, at least, would agree with me:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...is-a-warmonger

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
    I find it odd (but not really) that in a thread about Trump, you express your being sickened by someone as relatively impotent as Linda Sarsour, while elsewhere in our little community, people are (more appropriately) outraged by Trump treating a Boy Scouts convention like a political rally--dare I make the comparison? I've never made it before, but God damn, it may have just finally become appropriate--like a fucking Hitler Youth rally.

    Your old, conservative, lily little straight white male ass is more worried about a feminist activist than a leader of state who displays fascist behavior, because he's not a threat to you personally. What's really sickening, right here, on ChessTalk? You.
    Trump is an ass. He didn't and doesn't hide it. Despite that tens of millions of US citizens voted for him. Is it because he is perfect? Is it because he is white, straight, a male? I don't think so. I think they chose Trump because the alternative wasn't perfection but rather Hillary Clinton.

    I will dispense with your last paragraph with the thought that if this is the best that tens of thousands of dollars of education will buy you, you should request a rebate. ;-)

    P.S. I am a fiscal conservative but mostly a social liberal.

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  • Peter McKillop
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    An article about two men: one, a man of integrity; the other, a piece of human filth.

    http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-d...ccains-heroism

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
    As I've already stated a billion times, as long as there's a test which allows us to write the exact same test at the same time while in different cities, I will do that test. Does the standard Mensa admissions test meet that criterion?
    You would have to contact your local Mensa branch. I would expect it does but have no idea if each branch gives the exact same test or if it is similar in structure but the ordering of figures ,words to unscramble, etc are different.
    Once you know a time I will confirm if I can do it at the same time in Manhattan.

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  • Ben Daswani
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
    As long at the IQ test is the standard Mesa admissions test, ie not GMAT or LSAT but the Mensa Test that Mensa offer's I am in.
    As I've already stated a billion times, as long as there's a test which allows us to write the exact same test at the same time while in different cities, I will do that test. Does the standard Mensa admissions test meet that criterion?

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Ben Daswani
    I never offered you the terms you're offering me. You're a rich guy. If you want to do an IQ test challenge with me, we're each putting up $1000. Take it or leave it.
    As long at the IQ test is the standard Mesa admissions test, ie not GMAT or LSAT but the Mensa Test that Mensa offer's I am in. I am in Manhattan and can go to a Mensa testing center any time. Which center do you propose to take the test at and when?

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  • Ben Daswani
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
    It is about security and not religious discrimination.
    This is mind-boggling to me. You speak as if something can't be both about security and an example of religious discrimination. Let me break this down for you, really simply:

    Something can be
    a religiously discriminatory
    security measure.

    See how that works?

    Your inability to admit that this textbook literal example of religious discrimination was in fact religious discrimination is insane to me. You're not even trying to justify the religious discrimination in your argument, which would be one thing. You're instead arguing that it wasn't religious discrimination. The problem, for you, is that it obviously was. And anyone who's not an idiot can see that. People were banned from a public place and wouldn't have been but for their religion. That is, by definition, religious discrimination.

    I am not surprised that you chose not to name a date and place for your purported IQ challenge.
    I never offered you the terms you're offering me. You're a rich guy. If you want to do an IQ test challenge with me, we're each putting up $1000. Take it or leave it.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by ben daswani View Post
    As always, I will not read posts that are merely links without any explanation--any text whatsoever--attached. Make your arguments clearly, like a big boy.
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Pol...e-Mount-500682

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  • Ben Daswani
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    As always, I will not read posts that are merely links without any explanation--any text whatsoever--attached. Make your arguments clearly, like a big boy.

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