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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    Neil, I found your post disappointing.
    Peter was asking a legitimate question, then you posted something completely off topic.
    Why? Just trolling.
    Thanks, Bob, but it was wrong of me to say that to Neil. You'd think after all of these years I would have learned to not post when I'm angry. :(

    Neil, I apologize. You didn't deserve it and I shouldn't have said it.

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    You're such a disappointment, Peter.
    Neil, I found your post disappointing.
    Peter was asking a legitimate question, then you posted something completely off topic.
    Why? Just trolling.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    Go fuck yourself, asshole.
    You're such a disappointment, Peter.
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Sunday, 2nd July, 2017, 11:05 PM.

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Here's some 2015 figures for your 'cause', Peter:

    CNN ... reports 307,000 vets died waiting to receive help from VA.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/politi...ort/index.html

    Fox ... reports 300,000 vets died waiting to receive help from VA.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...are-at-va.html

    To you and your kind what's another 300,000 lives. Remind me again, where was your outrage on that? Point me to that link where you spoke out on their behalf, Peter.

    Is it time for you and your kind to drop the act???

    Trump's EO for his Vets:

    http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/3748...erans-affairs/

    Contrast?

    Have a nice day.
    I don't believe that I have ever posted anything that would lead people to believe that I'm unsympathetic to the plights of the broken, the disadvantaged, and the marginalized in society. Go fuck yourself, asshole.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Ben Daswani
    1. I said a Republican politician bodyslammed a reporter who asked about healthcare.
    2. I asked whom a person would label as a fascist if they were afraid of losing healthcare.
    3. You responded with a link about Bill Clinton calling Obamacare "crazy," implying that such a person might label Bill Clinton as a fascist.

    A. Do you agree with that basic rendering of the facts?

    Let's revisit the first two things.

    1. I said a Republican politician bodyslammed a reporter who asked about healthcare.
    2. I asked whom a person would label as a fascist if they were afraid of losing healthcare.
    B. Do you agree that I'm implying that such a person might label that Republican politician as a fascist?

    Two yes-or-no questions: A and B. This should be simple and straightforward, right?



    Originally posted by Ben Daswani
    A. Do you agree with that basic rendering of the facts?
    No, these are not facts. These are new statements you have created to to support your contention that I can not read. I ask again, are you really as smart as you say you are?
    Point 1 I do not dispute that this occurred and do not condone any reporters being physically body slammed and consider this an isolated incident of bad behavior of an individual politician and not GOP policy.

    Point 2 above references a person that is "afraid" of losing their healthcare, you then go on to state that you are implying that your first statement could be an example of such a person.
    Your actual post was more generalized and could refer to any person that would be part of a group of people who are going to actually lose their healthcare in the eventuality that Obamacare is repealed. If you meant to say something else then you should take the time to learn how to say what you mean.:D
    Originally posted by Ben Daswani
    If you're a person who's going to lose healthcare if Obamacare is repealed, who do you see as the fucking fascist?
    I posted a link in response to your second sentence that states that even high profile Democrats like Bill Clinton have serious reservations about Obamacare. The point being are people losing their healthcare or regaining their freedom not to be forced into buying useless coverage at unaffordable prices?

    In many states coverage has more then doubled in price that has deductibles that are so high that the so called coverage is useless. Under the Obama regime 10 percent of your income can be subjected to forfeiture if you do not buy useless coverage charged extortive prices by healthcare insurers.. To start with Obama claimed his system would allow people to keep whoever their current care providers are. Total lie. Calling Obamacare legitimate healthcare is like calling Madoff's ex investment fund a "safe investment" when in fact it was nothing more then a fraud. The main difference being that one had a choice about whether or not to invest their money with Madoff.
    So to answer your question about if I was a person who was going to lose my healthcare who would I see as the the "fucking fascist"? I absolutely would see Obama as the "fucking fascist"and nothing but a sucker who sold out the American people to the highly profitable and politically influential health insurers. Why?.. you may ask.... because under Obamacare chances are I would have effectively lost my coverage anyways as it is unaffordable and useless with its high deductibles and the reluctance of insurers to pay out any costs.

    By the way according to the Antidefamation league as per Tom's Time magazine article he posted shows that the antisemitic Chicago incident with the LGBT is not isolated as you might like everyone to believe and in fact antisemitism is creeping into progressivism.
    http://time.com/4839592/anti-semitis...mation-league/
    Here is the New York LGBT protesting Jewish LGBT marchers celebrating Israel....disgusting, isn't it?
    http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/2362...-israel-parade
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Monday, 3rd July, 2017, 10:01 AM.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    No doubt Lucas wss referring to what is expected to happen according to the calculations of the non- partisan Congressional Budget Office. If you have better figures, Neil, why don't you share them with us?
    Here's some 2015 figures for your 'cause', Peter:

    CNN ... reports 307,000 vets died waiting to receive help from VA.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/politi...ort/index.html

    Fox ... reports 300,000 vets died waiting to receive help from VA.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015...are-at-va.html

    To you and your kind what's another 300,000 lives. Remind me again, where was your outrage on that? Point me to that link where you spoke out on their behalf, Peter.

    Is it time for you and your kind to drop the act???

    Trump's EO for his Vets:

    http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/3748...erans-affairs/

    Contrast?

    Have a nice day.
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Sunday, 2nd July, 2017, 04:40 AM.

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  • Paul Bonham
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    Originally posted by Garland Best View Post
    What's really sad is that this post got 11 replies today, while one encouraging people to post great moments in Canadian Chess got ZERO replies on our 150th birthday, as of 10:35PM.

    No.... what's REALLY sad is that the President of the CFC made hate speech comments here on ChessTalk, comments that were so bad that Larry Bevand (owner of ChessTalk) had to remove the entire thread once he was made aware of them because he knew that Drkulec's comments violated Canada's hate speech laws.....

    ....and that I made everyone here on ChessTalk aware of this and challenged voting members of the CFC to have Drkulec removed as President because he had stained the CFC with hatred, and that Garland Best who I believe is a voting member of the CFC chooses to do and say nothing about this and instead posts asking people to post great moments in Canadian Chess.

    You get what you deserve.

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  • Kevin Pacey
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    Originally posted by Garland Best View Post
    What's really sad is that this post got 11 replies today, while one encouraging people to post great moments in Canadian Chess got ZERO replies on our 150th birthday, as of 10:35PM.
    Unfortunately, all I could think of in the way of big Canadian Chess highlights was Yanofsky's old win over world champ Botvinnik (though I don't recall if Abe was from Canada at the time) plus Spraggett's 1988 Saint John match win again A. Sokolov (though these days K.S. may not be entirely popular with many chesstalk viewers & posters).

    [edit: Yanofsky was indeed then Cdn, though he beat Botvinnik in 1946 before the latter was world champ. Found this on wikipedia this morning when I had time.]

    The usual stuff going on, even today, in this Trump thread, may show that there's lots of bored shut-in chessplayers/fans this particular holiday. At least it's not Christmas Day. :)
    Last edited by Kevin Pacey; Sunday, 2nd July, 2017, 10:59 AM.

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  • Garland Best
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    What's really sad is that this post got 11 replies today, while one encouraging people to post great moments in Canadian Chess got ZERO replies on our 150th birthday, as of 10:35PM.

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  • Duncan Smith
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    'Trump - New Thread' has been captured by pirates. 'Trump - The NEW, New Thread' will now be the place where ChessTalkers can engage in civil discourse about Trump. : /
    The alt-right / Trump stuff on here is getting absurd, especially coming from people who choose to live in Canada. A leader needs to be capable of critical thinking and not see the world in this "us vs them" mentality.
    Last edited by Duncan Smith; Saturday, 1st July, 2017, 10:32 PM.

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    http://time.com/4839592/anti-semitis...mation-league/

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
    No doubt Lucas wss referring to what is expected to happen according to the calculations of the non- partisan Congressional Budget Office. If you have better figures, Neil, why don't you share them with us?
    The fact is that most Americans under Obama Care have to pay ever increasing premiums that have more then doubled in many states for useless plans with very high deductibles that give no choice as to the care provider (something Obama promised would not be the case). Penalties for not buying the insurance is an enormous tax on a taxpayers pretax earnings. Many of the folks the budget offices puts in to the category of uninsured are the above who are stuck with legally enforced useless expensive coverage in the first place.
    What would be your idea be on how to fix this problem? I have no doubt that the law needs to be repealed but the question is what to replace it with? I personally think medicaid should be expanded and in this matter i personally do not agree with the GOP that wants to return medicaid back to the State level. That being said until all the details are hashed out I will reserve judgement.
    I absolutely agree with Neill that the scare tactics of the Dems has been excessive with the debunked Russia collusion theories and now this that quotes statistics based on projections without putting the data into the proper context.
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 1st July, 2017, 11:15 PM.

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  • Lucas Davies
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Has that happened? Has it? If not, say so. If it has already happened ...prove it. Seriously, the world is f'd up enuff without your phony Dem scare tactics.

    Wasn't the Dem's failed Trump/Russia collusion scare tactic enough for you? How much more of your phony scare tactic shit are you willing to shovel simply because y'all lost the election?

    If it's not too much to ask, which it probably is, please give Rand Paul a chance at influencing the repeal & place (two part of one part doesn't matter).

    How's that Obamaphone? Ringing true, ain't it ;)
    I'm not a Democrat. Unlike some it seems, I'm capable of being critical of people of any party. Projected numbers based on the currently proposed health care bill. You seem more interested in attributing the failures of a program to Obama, despite the fact that he was uninvolved in its creation or, as far as I can see, its updated policies. That's definitely a very important and relevant topic. You should probably tell us more about those phony Democrat scare tactics.

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Has that happened? Has it? If not, say so. If it has already happened ...prove it. Seriously, the world is f'd up enuff without your phony Dem scare tactics.

    Wasn't the Dem's failed Trump/Russia collusion scare tactic enough for you? How much more of your phony scare tactic shit are you willing to shovel simply because y'all lost the election?

    If it's not too much to ask, which it probably is, please give Rand Paul a chance at influencing the repeal & place (two part of one part doesn't matter).

    How's that Obamaphone? Ringing true, ain't it ;)
    No doubt Lucas wss referring to what is expected to happen according to the calculations of the non- partisan Congressional Budget Office. If you have better figures, Neil, why don't you share them with us?

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Lucas Davies View Post
    20+ million people losing their healthcare is NOTHING next to this.
    Has that happened? Has it? If not, say so. If it has already happened ...prove it. Seriously, the world is f'd up enuff without your phony Dem scare tactics.

    Wasn't the Dem's failed Trump/Russia collusion scare tactic enough for you? How much more of your phony scare tactic shit are you willing to shovel simply because y'all lost the election?

    If it's not too much to ask, which it probably is, please give Rand Paul a chance at influencing the repeal & place (two part of one part doesn't matter).

    How's that Obamaphone? Ringing true, ain't it ;)

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