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  • Paul Bonham
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    You are the one putting forth Van Impe as some kind of authority. I do not recognize his or his wife's authority to speak on spiritual matters......

    You do not recognize the authority to speak on spiritual matters of Jack Van Impe, a man known as the "Walking Bible" because of his extensive memorization of Bible verses, a man who worked with the Billy Graham crusades, a man running a non-profit organization (Jack Van Impe Presents) to spread the Word of God which you supposedly "believe" in....

    and you call me a "minion of Satan"!!!!

    Perhaps you are the false prophet.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post

    So.... Vlad Drkulec is going to tell everybody which evangelists to believe, which evangelists have made "fundamental errors".
    You are the one putting forth Van Impe as some kind of authority. I do not recognize his or his wife's authority to speak on spiritual matters. I have pointed out what I believe is his motivation. It is not surprising that as a minion you encourage people to focus on televangelists. When they inevitably stumble people will become disillusioned. There is no need for televangelists. Read the bible and ask God to illuminate your understanding and reveal himself to you. No need to send money to anyone.


    Vlad Drkulec is going to tell us when all the end-time pieces are on the board. Vlad Drkulec will pronounce to us that the Clintons are evil and Trump is good.
    Hillary chortling when she got the child rapist off by attacking his accuser was a pretty good clue of where she was coming from. Getting bounced off the Watergate commission for a complete lack of ethics was another good clue. Sid has already mentioned the endless stream of people dying under mysterious circumstances surrounding the Clintons.

    Sounds like the beginnings of yet another new church, based like all the others on Bible literalism.... with perhaps some Taylor Swift song lyrics added in.
    There's a man goin' 'round takin' names
    And he decides who to free and who to blame
    Everybody won't be treated all the same
    There'll be a golden ladder reachin' down
    When the man comes around

    The hairs on your arm will stand up
    At the terror in each sip and in each sup
    Will you partake of that last offered cup
    Or disappear into the potter's ground?
    When the man comes around

    Hear the trumpets hear the pipers
    One hundred million angels singin'
    Multitudes are marchin' to the big kettledrum
    Voices callin', voices cryin'
    Some are born and some are dyin'
    It's alpha and omega's kingdom come
    And the whirlwind is in the thorn tree
    The virgins are all trimming their wicks
    The whirlwind is in the thorn tree
    It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks



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    And I looked, and behold a pale horse
    And his name that sat on him was death, and hell followed with him"

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  • Paul Bonham
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    I know that this is probably in vain, ie useless, without use. I do not typically do things which are without use aside from posting on chesstalk. TV preachers for the most part are entertainment and there to raise money. I do not typically give them much attention because they tend to make significant errors when they teach their interpretations of biblical prophecy. Two preachers that I occasionally watch (on the order of once every month or two) are Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen. Their messages tend to be uplifting and I don't sense that they are all about the money. I enjoy reading their books.

    Van Impe may or may not be sincere but I have seen him make some fundamental errors. He lost a lot of credibility with me at the time of the Y2K issue. He made certain apocalyptic predictions which were just silly. He preaches end times as a fundraising tactic not unlike the Armstrong doomsday cult which Bobby Fischer fell into. If the world is coming to an end why try to hang on to your money or defend your world title. Its a lot of work. If Bobby had not been convinced the world was coming to an end he might have defended his title and chess history might have turned out a bit differently.

    I do not know if the end of the world will come today or ten thousand years from now or ten million years from now. Only God knows. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something and their pronouncements should be taken with a grain of salt. That said I don't see all the pieces on the board yet. If anything the election of Donald Trump has delayed things as far as all the pieces landing on the board to fulfill all prophecy which does have to happen in order for the apocalypse to begin. If Hillary had won it was quite possible that the pieces would already be on the board. She was that evil.

    As for people like Ben Daswani and Paul Bonham you should stop being minions of Satan. There is no future in it. Best case is that you spend eternity alone in the darkness forever or you are extinguished out of existence. Worst case is that you are tormented forever. Your alternative theology will not be taken into account in deciding your sentence.

    Wishing harm to Israel is the same as facilitating harm to Israel. Thoughts become things.

    Again, no one is "wishing" nor "facilitating" harm to Israel. It is written in the Bible that Israel will be attacked in the end time. That is a certainty if you believe in the Bible. Since it is a certainty, it is natural and it is ok for believers to want it to happen ASAP and to be happy as events unfold that are in line with the prophecy.

    So.... Vlad Drkulec is going to tell everybody which evangelists to believe, which evangelists have made "fundamental errors". Vlad Drkulec is going to tell us when all the end-time pieces are on the board. Vlad Drkulec will pronounce to us that the Clintons are evil and Trump is good.

    Sounds like the beginnings of yet another new church, based like all the others on Bible literalism.... with perhaps some Taylor Swift song lyrics added in.

    Which gets us around to the comment from Ben Daswani that started all this fuss weeks ago.....

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Trump - The NEW, New Thread

    I know that this is probably in vain, ie useless, without use. I do not typically do things which are without use aside from posting on chesstalk. TV preachers for the most part are entertainment and there to raise money. I do not typically give them much attention because they tend to make significant errors when they teach their interpretations of biblical prophecy. Two preachers that I occasionally watch (on the order of once every month or two) are Joyce Meyer and Joel Osteen. Their messages tend to be uplifting and I don't sense that they are all about the money. I enjoy reading their books.

    Van Impe may or may not be sincere but I have seen him make some fundamental errors. He lost a lot of credibility with me at the time of the Y2K issue. He made certain apocalyptic predictions which were just silly. He preaches end times as a fundraising tactic not unlike the Armstrong doomsday cult which Bobby Fischer fell into. If the world is coming to an end why try to hang on to your money or defend your world title. Its a lot of work. If Bobby had not been convinced the world was coming to an end he might have defended his title and chess history might have turned out a bit differently.

    I do not know if the end of the world will come today or ten thousand years from now or ten million years from now. Only God knows. Anyone who says otherwise is selling something and their pronouncements should be taken with a grain of salt. That said I don't see all the pieces on the board yet. If anything the election of Donald Trump has delayed things as far as all the pieces landing on the board to fulfill all prophecy which does have to happen in order for the apocalypse to begin. If Hillary had won it was quite possible that the pieces would already be on the board. She was that evil.

    As for people like Ben Daswani and Paul Bonham you should stop being minions of Satan. There is no future in it. Best case is that you spend eternity alone in the darkness forever or you are extinguished out of existence. Worst case is that you are tormented forever. Your alternative theology will not be taken into account in deciding your sentence.

    Wishing harm to Israel is the same as facilitating harm to Israel. Thoughts become things.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Refutation to issues around UU1 and Clintons in Snopes and Politifact

    Originally posted by Lucas Davies View Post
    Do you have a source for these claims?
    Looking at the House Ethics Committee historical list, you'll find that there were 68 Democrats and 34 Republicans, from 1856 through 2004 who were caught up in questionable activity. (Note, the list starts keeping tabs of Democrats versus Republicans in the mid 1850s, once the Republican party was formed. Click here to see beginning of the tally). So, from the House Ethics Committee historical list, the Democrats maintained a healthy two-to-one lead.

    https://www.quora.com/Is-there-any-d...-or-vice-versa

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