Nigel Short Appointed FIDE Vice President

[Paul Bonham]

You might try originality in your concession of defeat, Vlad. No, what am I thinking? There is no originality in you.

Vlad's practice of calling others idiots and using that as justification for not debating with them is like a neighborhood bully who picks on little kids and when a bigger kid comes for him, he hides in the bushes and later brags about not engaging in violent behavior.

There's a word for it: COWARDICE.

[Paul Bonham]

....The most famous case was KGB mole Aldrich Ames who consistently defeated polygraph tests administered by the CIA. You really don't know what you are talking about here.

"Polygraphy has been faulted for failing to trap known spies such as double-agent Aldrich Ames, who passed two polygraph tests while spying for the Soviet Union.^[70][94]However Ames did fail several tests while at the CIA that were never acted on.<sup>[95]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygraph</sup>

Nice try! I do admit to leaving out one word in my comment: there is no scientific evidence that anyone can consistently defeat a polygraph test.

Yes, despite some rogue elements precipitating the 2008 finanicial crisis , this group of money managers including Rex Sinquefield navigated these treacherous waters very well and prospered. Here in New York a famous trader named John Paulson that lives across the street from me made enormous profits betting against what a group of idiotic traders at AIG et al were doing in 2008. Why would I trust someone like you who's financial track record is non existent , you have no background educational or otherwise in finance or the economy and yet you are arrogant enough to think that you are smarter then the entire street and the scores of public servants involved in the economic decisions for this country.... that my friend is the real joke.
Your analysis of the economy is pathetically inadequate and wreaks of no education in this area. Just like in rapidly growing companies in a rapidly growing economy debt will increase, that is why the more important indicator is the debt to GDP ratio. The GDP is growing rapidly that is indicative of the desired lowering of this ratio. That is why we are not seeing anything even close to runaway inflation and very modest interest rate increases being used as a inflationary counter measure.
I hope the Dems never take control of the house and attempt to undo all the great work done to make the economy prosper by so many that has been accomplished in the last few years.

I'm not asking you to trust me or listen to me at all. I simply pointed out that the very thing I predicted 2 years ago is now happening: the result of "America First" policies would be much higher inflation. This is still in process and the trend is accelerating.

The U.S. economy is prospering in the sense that most people who want a job can find one. The U.S. economy is NOT prospering in that growing numbers of people cannot even afford a roof over their head, unless you count highway overpasses as a roof over one's head.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-ca...alflow_twitter

[Ed Seedhouse]

I decline to argue with Ed Seedhouse because of the well-known adage that when you argue with an idiot, there are two idiots arguing.

You might try originality in your concession of defeat, Vlad. No, what am I thinking? There is no originality in you.

[Vlad Drkulec]

I decline to argue with Ed Seedhouse because of the well-known adage that when you argue with an idiot, there are two idiots arguing.

Ditto for Bonham.

[Ed Seedhouse]

Polygraphs are not admissible as evidence precisely because they are not scientifically based. If you can control your physiology which most people can do with training you can defeat a polygraph.

Once again Vlad contradicts himself in a single sentence.

Polygraphs are of course junk science, but no amount of "training" will enable you to "fool" one since their results have no valid evidentiary status. In essence polygraphs are *always* fooled, and "training" has nothing to do with it.

[Ed Seedhouse]

That's simply ignorance, you simply don't want to see evidence including any evidence that happens to be hosted by Youtube on the grounds that it
consists of only "nutcase" posts.

Get back to me when she is charged and convicted, which I predict will be never, because any competent prosecutor will understand that there is no case, unlike the situation for several of Drumpf's close associates and "friends".

Unlike you, I can state what event would cause me to change my mind, whereas no amount of contradictory evidence will change yours - or so I predict.

[Nigel Hanrahan]

In any case, remember ....


Kavanaugh. It's Russia's fault!!

How the Republicans and Russia are re-making the Supreme Court.

It's.
Always.
Russia's.
fault!

lololol! The stupid! It burns!

[Vlad Drkulec]

Polygraphs are not admissible as evidence precisely because they are not scientifically based. If you can control your physiology which most people can do with training you can defeat a polygraph. The polygraph administered to Ms. Ford was somewhat of a joke. The questions she was asked simply related to the statement she gave at the time of the polygraph and asked if it was true. The statement does not name Kavanaugh except by first name.

"Two key questions from Ford's polygraph test were: "Is any part of your statement false?" and "Did you make up any part of your statement?"

Ford answered both of these questions with a "no" after giving her account of the party where she claims the assault occurred." Business Insider. September 26, 2018,

In fact, those were the only two questions asked according to an interview of the polygraph test administrator. The charts and full results were not made available to the Senate Judiciary Committee despite repeated requests.

The statement that she was saying was not false only says that some time in the 1980s Brett and Mark pushed her into a room and Brett groped her and attempted to remove clothes. No last names are given. No date or location are given. The people who she says were there deny that such a party or incident ever happened. She said, they said, end of story.

One of the ways to defeat a polygraph is to make yourself truly believe that a story is true through self hypnosis and telling yourself a story that you come to believe. Much of the supporting evidence and related background story that Ms. Ford has given are factually challenged to say the least. Also interesting is that she scrubbed her social history which no doubt would have shown her involvement in the women's march and other left wing causes. She lied or misremembered the reasons for attending psychotherapy as she claimed it had to do with her desire for a second entrance in 2012 which was actually installed in 2008 and had more to do with a tenant's requirements than it did with her.

[Sid Belzberg]

But of course the friends of Kavanaugh who were in the room as Ford was being assaulted are not going to claim any recollection and thus incriminate themselves. Duh! And Ford's lifelong friend isn't going to remember the party because from her viewpoint nothing happened. Do you remember everything you did during your high school years?

But approximately 20 other witnesses who did claim to remember the party were not allowed to be part of the FBI investigation. Again, there may have to be a Grand Jury into how much influence Trump played in that decision.





There is no scientific evidence that anyone, whether knowledgeable on self hypnosis or not, can defeat a polygraph test. Otherwise no one would be doing polygraph tests. The fact that you would consider this "evidence" gives you zero credibility in this debate.

As for Ford actually flying or living in a small apartment, sometimes people realize that they must directly tackle their fears head on. That doesn't mean they still don't HAVE those fears.




You go ahead and trust what you want to trust, but inflation is coming and it's not clear that the Fed will be able to control it. Top 100 money managers?? HA HA!!!!! Where were they when Lehman collapsed, Bear Stearns collapsed, AIG collapsed! What a joke.

You cite how great the economy is doing... you fail to realize that Trump has employed his favorite tactic from his business days, which is to borrow money and temporarily make things look good. But it all catches up to him, as his 5 bankruptcies attest. So I suppose when inflation and interest rates are limiting government expenditures to the point where things start grinding to a halt, he'll do what, take advantage of the system and default on America's foreign debt? Yes, he said during his campaign he would consider such a preposterous notion. I hope you and Rex Sinquefield are ready for the aftermath of THAT, since you voted for it!

]But approximately 20 other witnesses who did claim to remember the party were not allowed to be part of the FBI investigation

Dr Ford testified to a small gathering of 5 maybe 6 people. All of the four so called witnesses cited by Dr Ford were interviewed. Why stop at only 20 people that claimed were at the 6 person party? Maybe the Dems should have 1000 people claim they were there, that way it would take the FBI 100 years to do an investigation!

There is no scientific evidence that anyone, whether knowledgeable on self hypnosis or not, can defeat a polygraph test. Otherwise no one would be doing polygraph tests. The fact that you would consider this "evidence" gives you zero credibility in this debate.

Intelligence services routinely train operatives on how to defeat polygraph tests. The most famous case was KGB mole Aldrich Ames who consistently defeated polygraph tests administered by the CIA. You really don't know what you are talking about here.

you go ahead and trust what you want to trust, but inflation is coming and it's not clear that the Fed will be able to control it. Top 100 money managers?? HA HA!!!!! Where were they when Lehman collapsed, Bear Stearns collapsed, AIG collapsed! What a joke.

Yes, despite some rogue elements precipitating the 2008 finanicial crisis , this group of money managers including Rex Sinquefield navigated these treacherous waters very well and prospered. Here in New York a famous trader named John Paulson that lives across the street from me made enormous profits betting against what a group of idiotic traders at AIG et al were doing in 2008. Why would I trust someone like you who's financial track record is non existent , you have no background educational or otherwise in finance or the economy and yet you are arrogant enough to think that you are smarter then the entire street and the scores of public servants involved in the economic decisions for this country.... that my friend is the real joke.
Your analysis of the economy is pathetically inadequate and wreaks of no education in this area. Just like in rapidly growing companies in a rapidly growing economy debt will increase, that is why the more important indicator is the debt to GDP ratio. The GDP is growing rapidly that is indicative of the desired lowering of this ratio. That is why we are not seeing anything even close to runaway inflation and very modest interest rate increases being used as a inflationary counter measure.
I hope the Dems never take control of the house and attempt to undo all the great work done to make the economy prosper by so many that has been accomplished in the last few years.

[Sid Belzberg]

By this standard that you are using, the current NY Times report, 18 months in the making, that the entire Trump family has been cheating on their taxes for decades should likewise be used to impeach Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors. And they have more coming out soon!

Just like Hillary Clinton this is being investigated and due process will prevail. It is possible that items will be disallowed and Trump's family will have to pay back taxes, however, criminally indicting and convicting for actual tax evasion is much more complex and rarely happens, most of the time tax authorities simply want money.

[Paul Bonham]

Since you suggest no evidence exists of Hillary's crimes i see nothing that suggest's that you have even bothered to study the massive amounts of evidence out there.The book Clinton Cash is very compelling, for starters, as well as Wikileaks emails that reveals among other things massive embezzlement from the so called charity The Clinton Foundation.

By this standard that you are using, the current NY Times report, 18 months in the making, that the entire Trump family has been cheating on their taxes for decades should likewise be used to impeach Trump for high crimes and misdemeanors. And they have more coming out soon!

[Paul Bonham]

Not one of the four people she alleged were at the gathering have any recollection of this at all including her life long friend. No corroboration = no evidence.

But of course the friends of Kavanaugh who were in the room as Ford was being assaulted are not going to claim any recollection and thus incriminate themselves. Duh! And Ford's lifelong friend isn't going to remember the party because from her viewpoint nothing happened. Do you remember everything you did during your high school years?

But approximately 20 other witnesses who did claim to remember the party were not allowed to be part of the FBI investigation. Again, there may have to be a Grand Jury into how much influence Trump played in that decision.

The fact that Dr Ford has published papers on self hypnosis is evidence that she is very knowledgeable on self control that could possibly be used in an effort to defeat a polygraph test.Her boyfriend lived with her for six years and his statements were at odds with other things In Dr Ford's testimony besides teaching her friend how to defeat a polygraph test including no fear of small closed spaces, no fear of flying, did fly often, lived in a small closed space with only one door for many years, no mention whatsoever of being sexually assaulted etc etc. Several of her ex boyfriend's statements are completely verifiable, where did she live, airplane travel records etc. The ex boyfriend also signed an affidavit under threat of perjury.

There is no scientific evidence that anyone, whether knowledgeable on self hypnosis or not, can defeat a polygraph test. Otherwise no one would be doing polygraph tests. The fact that you would consider this "evidence" gives you zero credibility in this debate.

As for Ford actually flying or living in a small apartment, sometimes people realize that they must directly tackle their fears head on. That doesn't mean they still don't HAVE those fears.

Sure, and if the economy was tanking you would be saying "thanks Trump". The top 100 money managers supported Trump in October 2016 including chess patron Rex Sinquefield not because they liked Trump but they knew his economic policies would be very conducive to a thriving US economy and they have been proven correct. I would trust in their analysis far more then anything you have to say on this and in fact i posted this fact here on Chesstalk in October 2016.

You go ahead and trust what you want to trust, but inflation is coming and it's not clear that the Fed will be able to control it. Top 100 money managers?? HA HA!!!!! Where were they when Lehman collapsed, Bear Stearns collapsed, AIG collapsed! What a joke.

You cite how great the economy is doing... you fail to realize that Trump has employed his favorite tactic from his business days, which is to borrow money and temporarily make things look good. But it all catches up to him, as his 5 bankruptcies attest. So I suppose when inflation and interest rates are limiting government expenditures to the point where things start grinding to a halt, he'll do what, take advantage of the system and default on America's foreign debt? Yes, he said during his campaign he would consider such a preposterous notion. I hope you and Rex Sinquefield are ready for the aftermath of THAT, since you voted for it!

[Sid Belzberg]

The one who lacks brains here, if either of us, appears to be you since you deny what Der Trumpher actually said. I would say we both have brains but yours is deluded and in denial of the plain evidence of the senses. Der Drumpher gets up on stage and calls, over and over, for someone to be locked up and never mind a trial and you deny it. Typical Drumph prion disease...

Ms. H. will never face a trial because there is no evidence to charge her with. That's a prediction.

because there is no evidence to charge her with. That's a prediction.

That's simply ignorance, you simply don't want to see evidence including any evidence that happens to be hosted by Youtube on the grounds that it
consists of only "nutcase" posts.

Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
The fact that Dr Ford has published papers on self hypnosis is evidence that she is very knowledgeable on self control that could possibly be used in an effort to defeat a polygraph test.



And Sid thinks he isn't a nutcase...

That statement is within the context that her ex boyfirend alleged that she trained a friend on how to defeat a polygraph. In fact quite a few inconsistecies to her tesitmony were uncovered by her ex boyfriend that I listed this being one of them.

I 100% agree with Trump and his supporters that Hillary is a crook and should be locked up on the basis of direct evidence cited by by the FBI as well as DKIM certified emails published on Wikileaks. That being said you can rest assured that no one advocates any punishment being meted out to her without due process including me and in America that happens to go without saying.

Since you suggest no evidence exists of Hillary's crimes i see nothing that suggest's that you have even bothered to study the massive amounts of evidence out there.The book Clinton Cash is very compelling, for starters, as well as Wikileaks emails that reveals among other things massive embezzlement from the so called charity The Clinton Foundation.

You juxtapose Hillary's crimes that are massively corroborated against a single accusation of Dr Ford's from 36 years ago before the man was an adult and while he was allegedly drunk that has absolutely zero corroboration and then suggest that they try to deny someone the job of a lifetime on this basis. That is symptomatic of the Left's total insanity.

[Ed Seedhouse]

The fact that Dr Ford has published papers on self hypnosis is evidence that she is very knowledgeable on self control that could possibly be used in an effort to defeat a polygraph test.

And Sid thinks he isn't a nutcase...

If you want to have a rational discussion I am open to that.

A rational discussion presupposes some contact with reality, so I think such an effort would be entirely futile...

[Ed Seedhouse]

Yes you have ears but you don't appear to have brains if you really believe that Trump advocates throwing Hillary in prison without due process.

The one who lacks brains here, if either of us, appears to be you since you deny what Der Trumpher actually said. I would say we both have brains but yours is deluded and in denial of the plain evidence of the senses. Der Drumpher gets up on stage and calls, over and over, for someone to be locked up and never mind a trial and you deny it. Typical Drumph prion disease...

Ms. H. will never face a trial because there is no evidence to charge her with. That's a prediction.