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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by David Ottosen View Post

    The question remains - how do they "celebrate"? I honestly am not even sure if the CFC uses social media (there's no links on the web site which I must say is hilarious to think of for any organization of the CFC's scale these days). They have no real traditional media presence or interest. Post in the CFC forums? Who reads that?

    The truth is when you talk about female chess role models for Canada these days, it's the Botii and akanemsko, and as accomplished as they are at chess, it's their streaming careers that most aspire to, not their ability to reach 2200 or win OTB tournaments.
    Plus what Fred said, they also have a presence on chesscom ... https://www.chess.com/club/chess-federation-of-canada

    So, chess dot ca ... FB ... chess dot com ... and the Chess Federation of Canada doesn't care to celebrate anywhere ... International Women's Day?

    I mean seriously.

    October is Women's History Month in Canada ... make an effort!!!
    https://women-gender-equality.canada...022-theme.html

    I must say is hilarious to think of for any organization of the CFC's scale these days
    Ya I agree! Insane how much opportunity has slipped through their hands.


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    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 27th April, 2023, 01:15 AM.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

    Maybe you should re-read the history of the Canadian chess, and pay attention to Harmony Zhu. Julia Sarwer is a true name in the line of the firsts. Happy reading.
    Makes the CFC look even more egregious, egi.

    Well done, ha

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  • Fred Henderson
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    There is a CFC facebook group, headed by the CFC Vice Present, I believe.

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  • David Ottosen
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    And when an organization, or a community, has a role model on their hands ... f'n celebrate that to the max !!!

    Party time !!!

    Might not ever come again.

    Up lift !!!
    The question remains - how do they "celebrate"? I honestly am not even sure if the CFC uses social media (there's no links on the web site which I must say is hilarious to think of for any organization of the CFC's scale these days). They have no real traditional media presence or interest. Post in the CFC forums? Who reads that?

    The truth is when you talk about female chess role models for Canada these days, it's the Botii and akanemsko, and as accomplished as they are at chess, it's their streaming careers that most aspire to, not their ability to reach 2200 or win OTB tournaments.

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  • Hugh Brodie
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    Julia Sarwer was top female in the gender-mixed 1986 World U10 championship - finishing second overall to her brother Jeff.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Who knew that Qiyu Zhou, could or would, become Canada's 1st and only FIDE world champ? Not me.
    Maybe you should re-read the history of the Canadian chess, and pay attention to Harmony Zhu. Julia Sarwer is a true name in the line of the firsts. Happy reading.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    So ya the f'n Chess Federation of Canada fucked up ... again.

    If anyone cares ... you have to STOP.

    Ask yourself how could the CFC miss this.

    International Women's Day ... Qiyu Zhou ... Canada's 1st ever FIDE world champion ... over looked.

    Seriously?

    How does that even happen???

    Leadership.

    That's how.


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    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Wednesday, 26th April, 2023, 02:42 AM.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    And when an organization, or a community, has a role model on their hands ... f'n celebrate that to the max !!!

    Party time !!!

    Might not ever come again.

    Up lift !!!
    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Wednesday, 26th April, 2023, 02:09 AM.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post

    LOL. More lateral "thinking":. I was not questioning the value of a role model, I was questioning the role of the organization in producing that role model. Try linear thinking, please. And read my posts all the way through. Who will the organization "celebrate" with? It's members? Who are already participating? So much separation between the genders. Judit Polgar, now there is a role model. Get my point?
    Role models aren't ... 'produced'. There's no production line for a role model.

    Who knew that Qiyu Zhou, could or would, become Canada's 1st and only FIDE world champ? Not me.

    Chessbrahs ... role models !!! Who knew?

    Role models come from what they do. But sometimes, they also come from circumstance too.

    Never something that is 'manufactured' !!!

    They come from a place of having been given an opportunity. Right place at the right time, ha!

    Organic !!!

    That's what's most important.

    K?


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    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Wednesday, 26th April, 2023, 01:42 AM.

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  • Fred Henderson
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    Oops my bad, Fred. I thought you knew how to use a Search Engine ... ha!

    Lots more, but start here ...

    Sporting Success, Role Models and Participation: A Policy Related Review
    https://www.semanticscholar.org/pape...8dd37724db4b25

    The value of female sporting role models
    https://www.semanticscholar.org/pape...d056aa3c223a4d

    The value of female sporting role models
    https://www.sportanddev.org/sites/de...ole_models.pdf

    ... lots more, ha!
    LOL. More lateral "thinking":. I was not questioning the value of a role model, I was questioning the role of the organization in producing that role model. Try linear thinking, please. And read my posts all the way through. Who will the organization "celebrate" with? It's members? Who are already participating? So much separation between the genders. Judit Polgar, now there is a role model. Get my point?
    Last edited by Fred Henderson; Wednesday, 26th April, 2023, 12:35 AM.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post

    What are you sating here Let me piece it together....

    You: An organization must inspire its youth
    Me: Any research to support that?
    You A role model will increase participation.


    oooh yes, you do like lateral thinking, I'll to find out if this is what Edward de Bono had in mind.

    First you say it is the duty of an organization to inspire its youth. Then you prove it by saying that a role model will provide inspiration..

    So it would follow that the organization should produce role models? If so, how would they do that, and who would pay for it?
    Oops my bad, Fred. I thought you knew how to use a Search Engine ... ha!

    Lots more, but start here ...

    Sporting Success, Role Models and Participation: A Policy Related Review
    https://www.semanticscholar.org/pape...8dd37724db4b25

    The value of female sporting role models
    https://www.semanticscholar.org/pape...d056aa3c223a4d

    The value of female sporting role models
    https://www.sportanddev.org/sites/de...ole_models.pdf

    ... lots more, ha!

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  • Fred Henderson
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    Tons.

    A role model alone can increase participation by at least 10%.
    That's big! Especially for chess youth.

    A role model can also help retain players from leaving an activity by up to 60%.
    That's also YUUUGE!



    What are you sating here Let me piece it together....

    You: An organization must inspire its youth
    Me: Any research to support that?
    You A role model will increase participation.


    oooh yes, you do like lateral thinking, I'll to find out if this is what Edward de Bono had in mind.

    First you say it is the duty of an organization to inspire its youth. Then you prove it by saying that a role model will provide inspiration..

    So it would follow that the organization should produce role models? If so, how would they do that, and who would pay for it?

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post
    Any market research to support that?
    Tons.

    A role model alone can increase participation by at least 10%.
    That's big! Especially for chess youth.

    A role model can also help retain players from leaving an activity by up to 60%.
    That's also YUUUGE!




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  • Fred Henderson
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    If any organization is concerned about their country and about their future ... inspiring the youth is the best place to start!

    Canada has a female FIDE world champion ... Qiyu Zhou ... 2014, ha!

    CFC would never want to celebrate our ONLY ever world champion ... nah ... not the Chess Fed of Canada ... not under this leadership anyways ... especially not on International Women's Day !!!

    Who would ever want to inspire our Canadian youth???

    CFC ... nope.

    Any market research to support that? I doubt it. Can't they find inspiration in the game themselves? Why do they need an organization to inspire them? Parents should take responsibility for, and pay for themselves if it's so beneficial to their children. that, not the rank and file.There is no shortage of youth in the game, but so many find other priorities than organized OTB chess that you have to pay for, like the opposite sex, higher education, career, family, etc.

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    I hope you guys will support this:

    All4chess & Chess4All: Toronto Chess Festival For Women & Girls

    https://harthousechess.com/2023/04/1...men-and-girls/

    When: Sunday, May 14, 2023 from 9:30 am – 5:30 pm
    Cost: free (event is fully financial supported)
    Eligibility: only open to Women and Girls

    The event sponsored by FIDE and the CFC.

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