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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Ed Zator View Post
    Nefarious conduct??? Good heavens Roger! I implied a questionable result. That could come about in any number of ways, including unintentionally.
    Sunspots could even be the cause.

    It's up to the arbiter to either make an accusation, or just simply dismiss my complaint, which he did.
    and when he dismissed it you complained as widely & loudly as possible

    do you mean you were setting Hal up as the guy who was to be pressing your accustation? sounds like if Hal was not as sharp & smart as he is and handled it correctly as he did, you were prepared to make him the fall guy for your accusations, just as long as you get your money eh?

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  • Ed Zator
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    Originally posted by Jonathan Berry View Post
    They were what, 38 moves towards a 50-move draw? The last capture was on move 57. Black tried really hard to win, but White was equal to the task. A grand battle.
    Black was moving rather quickly with his queen, instead of conserving his moves (before his opponent could claim a draw), and looking for a winning method, what I would do. He still had 15 minutes on his clock.

    What I didn't consider, is Black actually losing on time! All White had to do was move his pawn every 50 moves, and now Black has possibly 200 moves to make, plus writing.

    In that situation, where drawing gets you only a small prize, I myself would have gone for broke. But a draw is a good result, given the danger of losing on Black's mind.

    It was maybe Cheng who showed a square to park the Queen on, a move I also considered, but I'm not sure if that's the forcing method.

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  • Ed Zator
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    Originally posted by Dan Scoones View Post
    "Nattering nabobs of negativism" is one of the most popular turns of phrase associated with U.S. Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, who served under Richard Nixon until resigning in October 1974, after pleading no contest to charges of tax fraud. Agnew, who had a particularly acrimonious relationship with the press, used this term to refer to the members of the media, whom he also deemed "an effete corps of impudent snobs." -- Answers.com
    We all learned 2 things from Agnew:

    1) Apparently nabob means something besides gelatin or pudding.

    2) The Latin phrase for "no contest".

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  • Ed Zator
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    Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
    it is transparently clear to me that you did in fact imply nefarious conduct.
    Nefarious conduct??? Good heavens Roger! I implied a questionable result. That could come about in any number of ways, including unintentionally.
    Sunspots could even be the cause.

    It's up to the arbiter to either make an accusation, or just simply dismiss my complaint, which he did.

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  • Ben Daswani
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    Originally posted by Ed Zator View Post
    I'm sorry Bindi, but your diatribe is so rife with accusations, lies, contradictions, irrelevancies, slander and just plain silliness, I don't have a clue what you're trying to say.
    then learn english, ski

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  • Ed Zator
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    Originally posted by Bindi Cheng View Post
    Jean, there's no need to play devil's advocate. EVERYONE knows Ed is wrong. Unless you know him or is associated with him somehow, you don't have to defend him. Ed, you're a funny individual. You honestly think what you said about Keith and how he basically gave a draw to his opponent isn't disrespectful? I don't care if you're 1500 or 2500, you don't say crap about other people and get away with it while acting like you're a victim, especially on chesstalk. You do understand no one is going to be on your side and by putting your name on here, any big tournament in Canada that you play in now will know who you are by name right? Honestly I only associate your rating because you seem to know so much about that endgame when obviously you don't. I know some people seems to get offended by language issues but please, grow up. This isn't a primary school classroom and we're all adults who hear words like bully and asshole among other things everyday.
    I'm sorry Bindi, but your diatribe is so rife with accusations, lies, contradictions, irrelevancies, slander and just plain silliness, I don't have a clue what you're trying to say.

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  • Roger Patterson
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    it is transparently clear to me that you did in fact imply nefarious conduct. No apology by Jonathan is required. He is completely correct.

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  • Bindi Cheng
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    Jean, there's no need to play devil's advocate. EVERYONE knows Ed is wrong. Unless you know him or is associated with him somehow, you don't have to defend him. Ed, you're a funny individual. You honestly think what you said about Keith and how he basically gave a draw to his opponent isn't disrespectful? I don't care if you're 1500 or 2500, you don't say crap about other people and get away with it while acting like you're a victim, especially on chesstalk. You do understand no one is going to be on your side and by putting your name on here, any big tournament in Canada that you play in now will know who you are by name right? Honestly I only associate your rating because you seem to know so much about that endgame when obviously you don't. I know some people seems to get offended by language issues but please, grow up. This isn't a primary school classroom and we're all adults who hear words like bully and asshole among other things everyday.

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  • Ed Zator
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    Originally posted by Jonathan Berry View Post
    A reader would have to be brainless to miss the implication made against KM. An apology would put EZ ahead of one of those bullies.
    Mr. Berry, I will let you start off the round of apologies for calling everyone who read this thread, and understood that I made no accusation, "brainless".

    Perhaps this clip will inspire you:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdzqTGmEcZE

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Dan Scoones View Post
    "Nattering nabobs of negativism" is one of the most popular turns of phrase associated with U.S. Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, who served under Richard Nixon until resigning in October 1974, after pleading no contest to charges of tax fraud. Agnew, who had a particularly acrimonious relationship with the press, used this term to refer to the members of the media, whom he also deemed "an effete corps of impudent snobs." -- Answers.com
    Spiro Agnew just read the speech. William Safire wrote it. The phrase with all its shades of meaning seemed quite appropriate to the situation.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Sportsmanship above all.

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  • Ed Zator
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    Originally posted by Bindi Cheng View Post
    And with everyone ganging up on him, it's more to show that he doesn't have any right in talking crap when he would have probably lost the endgame with the rook and pawn against queen if he was playing Keith in that position. Last time I checked I didn't know 1800s gave masters complex endgame lessons.
    Bindi, I think you just missed the signposts, as the criticism turned to jocular ribbing when it became clear that I was just mistaken.

    I didn't give Keith any endgame lessons. He didn't ask for any, and I normally charge for them anyway (point a game). There are many lower rated players that have given me endgame lessons over the years, believe me.

    So if there is any ganging up still going on, any bully here, it is you Bindi. You're a bully by rating superiority. It makes you feel you can call any lower rated player, anything under the sun that you like.

    Tell you what. I'm not going to hold that against you. But I will give you that one-point an endgame lesson every time that we meet on the board.

    What do you think of that?

    PS. Just curious. Are you related to Louis Cheng, whom I played at this Canadian Open. He played a good game against me.

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  • Dan Scoones
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    Stop being such a nattering nabob of negativity.
    "Nattering nabobs of negativism" is one of the most popular turns of phrase associated with U.S. Vice President Spiro T. Agnew, who served under Richard Nixon until resigning in October 1974, after pleading no contest to charges of tax fraud. Agnew, who had a particularly acrimonious relationship with the press, used this term to refer to the members of the media, whom he also deemed "an effete corps of impudent snobs." -- Answers.com

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Ed Zator View Post
    Jean, I am just going to quote a fellow Quebecer of yours here:

    "[Bindi,] I've been called a lot worse things, by a lot better people."
    yes family can be very vocal when disappointed

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  • Ben Daswani
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    Originally posted by Ed Zator View Post
    Jean, I am just going to quote a fellow Quebecer of yours here:

    "[Bindi,] I've been called a lot worse things, by a lot better people."
    can't say i'm surprised, "zator"...

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