Originally posted by Sid Belzberg
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FIDE Presidential Elections
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No doubt some others here will denounce me as "one-sided" but this is abuse. Cut it out or face the consequences.
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View PostMurder is murder. Was Gary being blind, stupid or dishonest when he made his positive statements about Kirsan or does this only apply against people who will not bend their knees and worship the anointed one?
A rushed decision would have been if we had followed your lead and endorsed Gary at the time you first contacted us as you were insisting that we do. I am sure you would have had no objection to this alternate outcome. We have held approximately three months of deliberations on this issue give or take two days. I would hardly consider that rushed.
I would welcome a viable candidate who is not a one issue candidate running against me and winning if that candidate was willing to do the work that winning the election would entail. The last time such a situation arose someone ran for FIDE rep and promptly disappeared after his candidate lost the election. In fact I think that person was you.
As always you seem to be operating from a place of limited information and lacking access to the facts. I got this email yesterday. The AGM will be largely irrelevant from the point of view of the FIDE election because it will be too late to change our delegate even with a change of administration.
From: Directory Elista FIDE Office (directory@fide.com) This sender is in your safe list.
Sent: June-16-14 10:45:51 AM
To: Canada Chess Federation (info@chess.ca); Vladimir Drkulec; Hal Bond; Lyle Craver
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Dear Sirs
Please see the attached list of delegates which are published on the FIDE website as is required by the FIDE Electoral Regulations Section 5.A.1.
According to FIDE Electoral Regulations Section 5.A.2
At the latest five weeks before the opening session of the General Assembly, the President of each member federation shall inform the FIDE Secretariat in writing of any changes to be made to this list. If there has been no such notification by this deadline, and there is no delegate on the list that was published on the FIDE website pursuant to Section (1) above, the delegate shall be the President of the federation.
FIDE recommends that the following wording be used for informing the Secretariat, until 7 July (Athens time 17.00), of any change to be made to the list of delegates in accordance with this paragraph.
“I, the President of the federation of _____________________ hereby inform FIDE that the Delegate of my federation at the FIDE 2014 General Assembly in Tromso will be _____________________.
Date : _____________________
Signature: _____________________”
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Best regards
Elista FIDE Office
The wicked flee where no man pursueth. My decisions are just and well documented. I am not worried. Your statement looks like a threat but then that is what I have come to expect from the Kasparov camp.
That still does not address your own statement about seeing no evidence, you still are either blind,stupid or dishonest in my estimation.
Your accusation of me being Fide rep that quit after an election is false. I was Fide rep (at one of my chess friends request from the olympiad team that we sponsored) for all of two weeks and found that the demands were too time consuming for me to do a good job so I resigned. I will not waste words with you any longer as I take offense to falsehoods being posted about me.Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Tuesday, 17th June, 2014, 08:54 PM.
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OK, Vlad, lets get to the bottom of this. The OCA's meeting is intentionally being delayed, its not even officially closed.Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View PostSteve from the Tao of Steve?
You're actually asking voting members. There are no governors anymore.
At the same time you've changed the AGM's date from June 28 to July 6, so incoming President, Executives and Voting Members would be stuck by your "endorsement" which is clearly against the interests of Chess in Canada and wishes of the majority of people voted here: GK - almost 30, and KI - 1. You keep repeating over and over again that you don't need anything from CFC, all you are doing is in the interests of the Canadian chess. Why are you repeating it without even being asked? Your actions speak for themselfs, but you will not get away with it.
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As long as you're travelling to Europe and back overnight on your witchhunt, can I ask how many mpg your broomstick gets?Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostI'm getting the evidence. Its night now in Europe. I'll have the details tomorrow morning our time.
Steve
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Quit making empty promises you have no intention of keeping. It is cruel to tease me like this.Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostSoon you'll have plenty of time to teach kids.
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Steve from the Tao of Steve?Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostI'm asking GOVERNORS, not Vlad or Steve.
You're actually asking voting members. There are no governors anymore.
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If you're right it will change chess in Canada as we know it.Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostBelieve me, FIDE made its news about CFC's endorsement BEFORE Hal's announcement at 7:06 am. I'm getting the evidence. Its night now in Europe. I'll have the details tomorrow morning our time.
Make sure you take time zone differences into consideration to avoid looking foolish.
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Soon you'll have plenty of time to teach kids.
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I'm asking GOVERNORS, not Vlad or Steve.
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Well while you interrogate the suspects and get to the bottom of this burning mystery I will have to go and watch some kids from Windsor play chess.Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostLet me first hear the answers to my question: please ANY GOVERNORS CONFIRM BEING INFORMED ABOUT CFC's ENDORCEMENT OF KI. When and by whom.
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Believe me, FIDE made its news about CFC's endorsement BEFORE Hal's announcement at 7:06 am. I'm getting the evidence. Its night now in Europe. I'll have the details tomorrow morning our time.Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View PostThis is a FIDE issue. The FIDE delegate takes the lead on issues that deal with FIDE. There was a terse announcement on the governors forum yesterday at 7:06 am by Hal Bond. Unless you can demonstrate that FIDE knew of the endorsement before that I suggest that you are as usual all wet.
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Yes but perhaps he should ask them to check the governors forum first, scroll back to 7:06 am on Monday, June 16, 2014 post #198 on the FIDE President Elections thread and ask whether they might want to revise their statements to Sasha.Originally posted by Steve Douglas View PostPerhaps you could name them before you look even more shrill and narrow-minded.
Steve
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Let me first hear the answers to my question: please ANY GOVERNORS CONFIRM BEING INFORMED ABOUT CFC's ENDORCEMENT OF KI. When and by whom.Originally posted by Steve Douglas View PostPerhaps you could name them before you look even more shrill and narrow-minded.
Steve
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This is a FIDE issue. The FIDE delegate takes the lead on issues that deal with FIDE. There was a terse announcement on the governors forum yesterday at 7:06 am by Hal Bond. Unless you can demonstrate that FIDE knew of the endorsement before that I suggest that you are as usual all wet.Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostWhy Hal, who has already confirmed that he has a conflict of interests, not YOU, the PRESIDENT, has "informed" the voting members? Those that I know denied being informed.Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Tuesday, 17th June, 2014, 06:24 PM.
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Originally posted by Sasha Starr View PostThose that I know denied being informed.
Perhaps you could name them before you look even more shrill and narrow-minded.
Steve
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