Mr Drkulec, Stop Parroting FIDE Propaganda The Voting Members Deserve Better.

[Sid Belzberg]

From another thread you said
" Claims that FIDE supports the actions of the Russian annexation of Crimea are fiction. We have clear denials of this Kasparov claim by several highly placed FIDE officials both in email and on twitter."

The attached link is the protest submitted by the Ukrainian Chess Federation to FIDE regarding the Crimean situation. Your assertion that it is a "Kasparov claim" is wrong. It is a claim of the Ukraine Chess Federation. May I remind you that over 1.2 million Ukranians live in Canada or about 3% of the population. Your assertion that it is fiction is wrong.

In the past your assertions that Kirsan was no longer involved with Putin have been proven completely wrong. I find it galling that majority of voting member in Canada have been misled and continue to be misled by someone who swallows the propaganda of a corrupt FIDE administration hook line and sinker.

https://mikhailgolubev.files.wordpre...pen-letter.pdf

Ukraine Demands FIDE to Treat National Federations Equally
Friday, 04.07.2014 00:08


Crimea and Lagno - topics discussed in UCF open letter to FIDE

The Ukrainian Chess Federation (UCF) published an open letter in which two topics are discussed: organizing chess events in Crimea and Kateryna Lagno's membership in UCF. As you know earlier Lagno stated a wish to change her federation and move to Russia.

The official letter signed by the UCF president Viktor Kapustin is available in English.The pdf file can be found below..

Тournaments in Crimea

The UCF states it is vital for FIDE to express its position regarding the organization of chess events in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol territory of which is annexed by the Russian Federation.

"In accordance with the Olympic Charter and Chapter 02 FIDE Statutes, one of the fundamental principles of FIDE is that only one national federation should have the principal authority over chess activities in each country. Taking into account that the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and city of Sevastopol remain integral parts of the territory of Ukraine in accordance with the resolution of UN General Assembly meeting of 27 March 2014 and international law. FIDE affirms that the Ukrainian Chess Federation remains exclusive authority over chess activities under FIDE auspices conducted in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and city of Sevastopol (Crimea region). The Ukrainian Chess Federation remains the only national chess federation validly formed in Ukraine.

FIDE will consider any attempt by another national chess federation to organize chess tournament under auspices of FIDE or otherwise exercise its jurisdiction in the territory of Crimea region as contrary to the Statutes of FIDE and the Olympic Charter," is said in the letter.

Further the letter informs that on June 30th 2014 FIDE issued an official agenda for the General Assembly refusing to include proposal of "Ukrainian Chess Federation regarding the exclusive jurisdiction of Ukrainian Chess Federation over the territory of Ukraine."

Further details on the matter may be found in the letter attached as pdf file below.

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Kateryna Lagno

"The Ukrainian Chess Federation became aware of the fact that the Russian Chess Federation made an illegal attempt to register the Ukrainian chess player Ms. Lagno for participation in 2014 Chess Olympiad in Tromso as a member of the Russian Chess Federation team. Moreover, we are cognizant of the pressure exercised by the Executive Director of FIDE Mr. Freeman in this regard favoring extension of time to enable such a registration."

[The deadline for registering all members of the participating teams at Olympiad is July 1 2014, two months prior to the event, as stated ont he official website of the tournament - CN]

"In case such information corresponds to the true course of events, the Ukrainian Chess Federation strongly objects against illegal actions of the Russian Chess Federation and Mr. Freeman and brings up issue of an attempt for serious violations of FIDE Rules" at the stage of preparation for Olympiad on the grounds stated further in the letter.

"We want to express our deepest hope that wisdom will prevail and the facts of FIDE Secretariat's gross intervention into the procedure of Ms. Lagno registration deadline will remain as just a small incident that would not become a matter for public discussion/consideration of international chess community in future.

"The Ukrainian Chess Federation want to express its hope that FIDE officials will stop acting in favor of any particular FIDE members and start not just declaring FIDE Motto which is "Gens Una Sumus" (We are one family) but actively implement such fundamental principle of equal treatment of National Chess Federations into the practice," concludes the letter.

[Nigel Hanrahan]

let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

What a steaming pile of Cold War shibboleths.

This is all moot in any case. Crimeans will re-join Ukraine when pigs fly. Their vote was 96% - better than any politician in Canada by far. The Kiev regime has cut off the water supply to Crimea out of spite, resulting in the loss of crops on a mass scale. Is this the action of a regime that wants Crimeans to reconsider their decision? Answer: No. This is more like ethnic cleansing.

Why would the CFC want to associate itself with people who support such atrocities? Chess is more important that tiresome Cold Warriors who won't ever come in from the cold. Give it a rest, Sid, and try to refrain from cheap sloganeering against an unpopular politician and scapegoating ...

"What America needs is more hard-headed and realistic thinking about Putin’s intentions and capabilities. What it does not need is what Garry Kasparov offered it: cheap sloganeering that seeks to blame totally unrelated problems on an unpopular, and therefore highly convenient, scapegoat."

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

I truly understand why you want to make the FIDE election all about Putin. Gary might be able to win that campaign. Unfortunately this is not that campaign.

Has the Ukrainian federation attempted to install a similar resolution at FIFA, the Olympic Committee, the World Ice Hockey Federation? I suspect that they would get a similar response to the one at FIDE.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

I truly understand why you want to make the FIDE election all about Putin. Gary might be able to win that campaign. Unfortunately this is not that campaign.

Has the Ukrainian federation attempted to install a similar resolution at FIFA, the Olympic Committee, the World Ice Hockey Federation? I suspect that they would get a similar response to the one at FIDE.

The whole issue is actually about you. You posted something that is a straight up falsehood. Furthermore you have been posting nonsense such as "Kirsan has nothing to do with Putin because he appointed someone else as governor of Kalmykia" in the face of overwhelming proof that Kirsan is very closely involved with Putin.
As for other sporting organizations the issue here was not only about installing a resolution but also pointing out specific irregularities that need to dealt with where this resolution would be a remedy.
Whether you like it or not a large part the FIDE election is about Putin on account of Kirsan's and Putins partnership and Russian embassies around the world campaigning for Kirsan.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

What a steaming pile of Cold War shibboleths.

This is all moot in any case. Crimeans will re-join Ukraine when pigs fly. Their vote was 96% - better than any politician in Canada by far. The Kiev regime has cut off the water supply to Crimea out of spite, resulting in the loss of crops on a mass scale. Is this the action of a regime that wants Crimeans to reconsider their decision? Answer: No. This is more like ethnic cleansing.

Why would the CFC want to associate itself with people who support such atrocities? Chess is more important that tiresome Cold Warriors who won't ever come in from the cold. Give it a rest, Sid, and try to refrain from cheap sloganeering against an unpopular politician and scapegoating ...

Nigel since the Western world supports what you call "atrocities" why don't you renounce your citizenship pack your bags and go to Russia? I am sure they would welcome you there and you would be very happy.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

Nigel since the Western world supports what you call "atrocities" why don't you renounce your citizenship pack your bags and go to Russia? I am sure they would welcome you there and you would be very happy.

That's mature.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

The whole issue is actually about you. You posted something that is a straight up falsehood. Furthermore you have been posting nonsense such as "Kirsan has nothing to do with Putin because he appointed someone else as governor of Kalmykia" in the face of overwhelming proof that Kirsan is very closely involved with Putin.
As for other sporting organizations the issue here was not only about installing a resolution but also pointing out specific irregularities that need to dealt with where this resolution would be a remedy.
Whether you like it or not a large part the FIDE election is about Putin on account of Kirsan's and Putins partnership and Russian embassies around the world campaigning for Kirsan.

I made a search for that phrase which you allege is a quote by me. Funny I could only find it in your posts. Cite?

[Steve Douglas]

Re: Mr Drkulec, Stop Parroting FIDE Propaganda The Voting Members Deserve Better.

From another thread you said

Then why didn't you keep this discussion there? This constant barrage of new threads hashing out the same issue over and over again is not helpful to anybody.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

You do not like that the CFC has chosen to endorse KI to be president of FIDE. That is basically the *only* issue that seems to be the basis of the current firestorm initiated by you and Sasha Starr. You have stated your credentials as a previous generous benefactor of the CFC which I, amongst others very much appreciated.

You have stated that the reason you stopped supporting the CFC was because of KI being president of FIDE. He did something which you found morally abhorrent and you pulled your sponsorship. Somehow that reason wasn't published at the time. In fact I don't think it was even mentioned until this current debate started. This strikes me as "retroactive continuity".

Since the CFC is not endorsing GK, whom you claim is a personal friend, you want the CFC to reverse its decision and have hinted and intimated that if it did, you would open your wallet again and spend money sponsoring the CFC.

This smacks of, quite frankly, extortion. Please correct me if I'm wrong in my impressions.

Since the CFC is resisting this arm-twisting, you have advocated that the current president be replaced with Sasha Starr, a man whose posts are even more inflammatory than yours.

You, and particularly Mr. Starr, have made claims of corruption, cover-ups, double-dealing, called people liars, and of course have relied upon various anonymous sources to support your various claims.

Nowhere in either yours or Mr. Starr's posts does there seem to be any serious concerns or issues with the CFC other than that of the support of KI.

I see no reason at all to oust a CFC president (or anybody on the executive) on the issue of the KI endorsement, just so that the CFC could take some sort of noble and moral stand (actually a morally bankrupt stand given the financial carrot that keeps being hinted at).

Furthermore, given the nature of the various posts by Mr. Starr, I don't see how he would function well as a CFC president. It appears to me that communication skills are an issue. I would also question his ability to "play well with others". His resume does not seem to have anywhere near the skill set that I would hope to see in a CFC presidential candidate.

IMHO, if you get your way, either by a reversal of the endorsement because of the hint/promise of largesse, or by Mr. Starr ascending to the president's position, then I fear the CFC will then be very much corrupt.

I have no skin in this game. I'm just telling you how it looks from the outside.

Steve Douglas

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Mr Drkulec, Stop Parroting FIDE Propaganda The Voting Members Deserve Better.

Then why didn't you keep this discussion there? This constant barrage of new threads hashing out the same issue over and over again is not helpful to anybody.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

You do not like that the CFC has chosen to endorse KI to be president of FIDE. That is basically the *only* issue that seems to be the basis of the current firestorm initiated by you and Sasha Starr. You have stated your credentials as a previous generous benefactor of the CFC which I, amongst others very much appreciated.

You have stated that the reason you stopped supporting the CFC was because of KI being president of FIDE. He did something which you found morally abhorrent and you pulled your sponsorship. Somehow that reason wasn't published at the time. In fact I don't think it was even mentioned until this current debate started. This strikes me as "retroactive continuity".

Since the CFC is not endorsing GK, whom you claim is a personal friend, you want the CFC to reverse its decision and have hinted and intimated that if it did, you would open your wallet again and spend money sponsoring the CFC.

This smacks of, quite frankly, extortion. Please correct me if I'm wrong in my impressions.

Since the CFC is resisting this arm-twisting, you have advocated that the current president be replaced with Sasha Starr, a man whose posts are even more inflammatory than yours.

You, and particularly Mr. Starr, have made claims of corruption, cover-ups, double-dealing, called people liars, and of course have relied upon various anonymous sources to support your various claims.

Nowhere in either yours or Mr. Starr's posts does there seem to be any serious concerns or issues with the CFC other than that of the support of KI.

I see no reason at all to oust a CFC president (or anybody on the executive) on the issue of the KI endorsement, just so that the CFC could take some sort of noble and moral stand (actually a morally bankrupt stand given the financial carrot that keeps being hinted at).

Furthermore, given the nature of the various posts by Mr. Starr, I don't see how he would function well as a CFC president. It appears to me that communication skills are an issue. I would also question his ability to "play well with others". His resume does not seem to have anywhere near the skill set that I would hope to see in a CFC presidential candidate.

IMHO, if you get your way, either by a reversal of the endorsement because of the hint/promise of largesse, or by Mr. Starr ascending to the president's position, then I fear the CFC will then be very much corrupt.

I have no skin in this game. I'm just telling you how it looks from the outside.

Steve Douglas

Steve, Thank you for candidly airing your views. Because your issues and Vlad's are very similar I am going to take the liberty of cutting and posting an answer from another thread that Vlad had posted.

"Originally Posted by Vlad Drkulec
Sid, you gave money ten years ago. You were generous but others have been more generous. The host of this board Larry Bevand has spent more this year on CFC related chess initiatives including NAYCC than you did in any particular year. As for time investment it is not clear to me to what you are referring.

You made an offer with strings attached. We got similar offers with no strings attached. Kasparov has been in New York for years now and he has not shown that he cared about Canada and is quoted as saying that he doesn't give a damn what Canadians think before this FIDE contest was even on the table. When things don't go his way there is this great wailing and gnashing of teeth among sympathetic media. This seems to be a recurring pattern in every federation at least from what I am hearing through the back channels. I don't think that you are going to be able to bully your way into making us do what you want. If Sasha wins then you will win but God help the CFC in that case. I will pray that it doesn't go belly up in two years which will be the limit of my legal liability. As a voting member I will vote against any program which seeks to pay the members of the board of directors."

Vlad i am glad that you are bringing up substantive issues


1)I am not privy to the CFC finances so I can't comment on who gave the most nor do I care. I was simply going from info given to me from an ex governor.

2)My offer has never had the "strings attached" that you described. That is something you have invented to justify your support of Kirsan. Form the first meeting i had with Hal Bond there were no strings attached and he eagerly embraced our offer in writing only to have a total about face after he returned from the Candidates in Russia and appeared to give us a lame excuse that the executive was suddenly skeptical not withstanding his claim that the executive always had great respect for his FIDE views. Then you wonder why we would be disrespectful of this behaviour.

3) I already have had Gary in Canada where he gave a simul and an interesting speech at the Empire club

4)I saw your evidence of Gary "not giving damn on the CFC board and it consisted of a link to a video in french. I am not fluent enough in that language to understand what was said exactly. If it is anything like your other outrageous comments that have proven to be completely false I am very skeptical of your claim.

5)You have only given vague details of a "similar offer" from someone that has never put a dime into Canadian chess and has a long history of broken promises in other federations. You accept that offer instead from someone with a proven track record.
6)You characterize what I am doing as "bullying". That's very interesting considering that my donations in the past were unconditional and the one time I ask for a favour from the CFC the treatment and attitude is one of betrayal.

7) Of course the media is going to be sympathetic to us , you endorsed someone who is Putins close partner (you denied that one for a long time until the proof was overwhelming), and who's close political aids murdered an opposition journalist (something you don't consider as good evidence that he may have been involved), this is the man that you described as a
peaceful Budhist and I agree 100% with Bonham who said that your sugar coating of this man in the globe and Mail Article is a real sham! Sorry Vlad but you made a fool of yourself in that article and you have no one to blame but your self.

8) This not about me "winning". This is about getting a thriving chess federation going. It just happens that Gary could be a big part of this whether he wins the FIDE race or not. As for your concern about the CFC going bankrupt I believe that Sasha has been very careful to point out that the preservation of the existing CGC balance sheet is essential and any new expenses would have to be accretive.
This means new expenses has to be derived from sponsorship dollars (something the CFC has appeared to be masters of repelling) or new revenues. As I stated earlier I have known Nava for a long time and she has a very solid background in administration and finance and i would sleep very well at night with her involvement. i have also offered to help Sasha where i can with the finances and do not foresee solvency problems ever. It seems that this is a cheap shot you are throwing out to create FUD.

When you run a profitable company expenses are fine as long as you get maximum dollar for every dollar spent. That being said the governors I have seen volunteer because like me they believe in chess and money is not a motivator so this is a non issue.

By the way if you are relying on Kirsan's campaign promises as a way of getting money who has never put a dime into Canadian chess that is much more alarming given that you have driven away people that have put money into chess.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

That's mature.

Thank you. I await an answer to my question posed to him.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

I made a search for that phrase which you allege is a quote by me. Funny I could only find it in your posts. Cite?

Paraphrase would be more accurate. Your argument has always been since Putin appointed someone else to be Governor of Kalmykia this is evidence Putin is no longer close to Kirsan. Of course you were entirely wrong and they are extremely close.
By the way why don't you address the main issue of posting straight up falsehoods? instead you try to veer things towards tangential issues .

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Mr Drkulec, Stop Parroting FIDE Propaganda The Voting Members Deserve Better.

Steve, Thank you for candidly airing your views. Because your issues and Vlad's are very similar I am going to take the liberty of cutting and posting an answer from another thread that Vlad had posted.

"Originally Posted by Vlad Drkulec
Sid, you gave money ten years ago. You were generous but others have been more generous. The host of this board Larry Bevand has spent more this year on CFC related chess initiatives including NAYCC than you did in any particular year. As for time investment it is not clear to me to what you are referring.

You made an offer with strings attached. We got similar offers with no strings attached. Kasparov has been in New York for years now and he has not shown that he cared about Canada and is quoted as saying that he doesn't give a damn what Canadians think before this FIDE contest was even on the table. When things don't go his way there is this great wailing and gnashing of teeth among sympathetic media. This seems to be a recurring pattern in every federation at least from what I am hearing through the back channels. I don't think that you are going to be able to bully your way into making us do what you want. If Sasha wins then you will win but God help the CFC in that case. I will pray that it doesn't go belly up in two years which will be the limit of my legal liability. As a voting member I will vote against any program which seeks to pay the members of the board of directors."

Vlad i am glad that you are bringing up substantive issues


1)I am not privy to the CFC finances so I can't comment on who gave the most nor do I care. I was simply going from info given to me from an ex governor.

2)My offer has never had the "strings attached" that you described. That is something you have invented to justify your support of Kirsan. Form the first meeting i had with Hal Bond there were no strings attached and he eagerly embraced our offer in writing only to have a total about face after he returned from the Candidates in Russia and appeared to give us a lame excuse that the executive was suddenly skeptical not withstanding his claim that the executive always had great respect for his FIDE views. Then you wonder why we would be disrespectful of this behaviour.

The executive was skeptical and cynical. I was the only one who voiced support for the idea of voting for Gary though I did say that I had some doubts that I needed to reassure myself about. My understanding was that your promises such as they were expressed were contingent on Gary winning. Only later did that change to unconditional during the Chesstalk discussion.

3) I already have had Gary in Canada where he gave a simul and an interesting speech at the Empire club

4)I saw your evidence of Gary "not giving damn on the CFC board and it consisted of a link to a video in french. I am not fluent enough in that language to understand what was said exactly. If it is anything like your other outrageous comments that have proven to be completely false I am very skeptical of your claim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWoYyWsNqcA
Watch at 4:55. He makes his statement in English at 5:28. I know enough French to understand the translation and if you listen you can hear him say it in English. Obviously he was not being truthful as he really seems to care about what Canadians think - well at least the CFC executive.

5)You have only given vague details of a "similar offer" from someone that has never put a dime into Canadian chess and has a long history of broken promises in other federations. You accept that offer instead from someone with a proven track record.

The real track record I am concerned with is the one that Gary Kasparov has. FIDE is one of the legs of the CFC table. If it were to disappear it would not be good for the CFC.

6)You characterize what I am doing as "bullying". That's very interesting considering that my donations in the past were unconditional and the one time I ask for a favour from the CFC the treatment and attitude is one of betrayal.

We are not talking about your past donations. We are talking about your present behaviour which seems to be to shout over and over in thread after thread saying the same things over and over again as if this will somehow work this time. When was the last time you made a donation? It was certainly pre-2007 as that was when I returned to chess.

7) Of course the media is going to be sympathetic to us ,

The guy I talked to at the Globe and Mail was not that sympathetic to you. Of course there were two authors. The other guy on Vice.com was hardly a journalist. Using his farcial writing smacks of desperation on Gary's part. We pulled the teeth of his argument when I actually talked to the Canadian government and learned that they were not annoyed with us.

you endorsed someone who is Putins close partner (you denied that one for a long time until the proof was overwhelming),

I still deny it but when you bring it up I read blah blah blah blah blah like Charlie Brown's parents.

and who's close political aids murdered an opposition journalist (something you don't consider as good evidence that he may have been involved),

"Nigel insinuating Kirsan having a hand in the murder of a journalist, a lie long ago debunked but conveniently ‘forgotten’ as the FIDE election looms." - Kevin Spraggett

I'm going to go with Kevin on this one.

this is the man that you described as a
peaceful Budhist

Peaceful Buddhist. That is my information from people who are close to him and someone I trust implicitly.

and I agree 100% with Bonham who said that your sugar coating of this man in the globe and Mail Article is a real sham! Sorry Vlad but you made a fool of yourself in that article and you have no one to blame but your self.

Kevin Spraggett has some less than flattering things to say about your campaign today. I really don't care if you think I made a fool of myself in the eyes of certain people.


8) This not about me "winning". This is about getting a thriving chess federation going.

What's stopping you?

It just happens that Gary could be a big part of this whether he wins the FIDE race or not. As for your concern about the CFC going bankrupt I believe that Sasha has been very careful to point out that the preservation of the existing CGC balance sheet is essential and any new expenses would have to be accretive.
This means new expenses has to be derived from sponsorship dollars (something the CFC has appeared to be masters of repelling) or new revenues.

Why would sponsors donate to pay the directors?

As I stated earlier I have known Nava for a long time and she has a very solid background in administration and finance and i would sleep very well at night with her involvement.

Nava is not running. Sasha is.

i have also offered to help Sasha where i can with the finances and do not foresee solvency problems ever. It seems that this is a cheap shot you are throwing out to create FUD.

Sasha said he would ensure that the directors were paid. I and others questioned him on how he proposed to pay for this. It certainly won't be a priority in my administration.

Sasha's own statements will be used against him. Paying directors was a priority for him I believe to help keep altruistic people out of the equation I might uncharitably guess.

When you run a profitable company expenses are fine as long as you get maximum dollar for every dollar spent. That being said the governors I have seen volunteer because like me they believe in chess and money is not a motivator so this is a non issue.

By the way if you are relying on Kirsan's campaign promises as a way of getting money who has never put a dime into Canadian chess that is much more alarming given that you have driven away people that have put money into chess.

I'm a bad person for not taking your inducements in order to secure our vote for your friend. I get it.

This whole scenario seems like we are being stalked by a psycho ex girlfriend.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: let Garry Kimovich run ... among the space aliens!!

Paraphrase would be more accurate. Your argument has always been since Putin appointed someone else to be Governor of Kalmykia this is evidence Putin is no longer close to Kirsan. Of course you were entirely wrong and they are extremely close.
By the way why don't you address the main issue of posting straight up falsehoods? instead you try to veer things towards tangential issues .

If its a paraphrase there shouldn't be quotes.

I get a sense of what you are trying to accomplish here. It won't work. My uncle who had polio was tortured for quite some time by the Yugoslav communists in the hopes of getting him to sign a confession of some sort or another. After much fruitless endeavour they sent two communist party officials to my grandfather's farm to meet him. He asked asked them what they wanted and they said that they wanted to meet the father of the bandit who could withstand such torture. They turned around and left.

You and Sasha are the spiritual brothers of those communist officials but your quest will be just as fruitless. "Its only words" as one dumb grey haired Scotsman used to say.

[Nigel Hanrahan]

guilt by association is, in any case, a poor argument

Paraphrase would be more accurate. Your argument has always been since Putin appointed someone else to be Governor of Kalmykia this is evidence Putin is no longer close to Kirsan. Of course you were entirely wrong and they are extremely close.

This is basically guilt by association in any case. By using such an approach you discredit the other claims you are making that are based on this ad hominem argument.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Mr Drkulec, Stop Parroting FIDE Propaganda The Voting Members Deserve Better.

[QUOTE=Vlad Drkulec;82610]The executive was skeptical and cynical. I was the only one who voiced support for the idea of voting for Gary though I did say that I had some doubts that I needed to reassure myself about. My understanding was that your promises such as they were expressed were contingent on Gary winning. Only later did that change to unconditional during the Chesstalk discussion.

Vlad at no point was the offer ever conditional upon Gary winning. That is something you fabricated to make our offer look like it is in bad light.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWoYyWsNqcA
Watch at 4:55. He makes his statement in English at 5:28. I know enough French to understand the translation and if you listen you can hear him say it in English. Obviously he was not being truthful as he really seems to care about what Canadians think - well at least the CFC executive.

Vlad it appears that he does not "give a damn" about what the journalist said about "are you going to far?" As usual you take things out of context to suit your own vision.


The real track record I am concerned with is the one that Gary Kasparov has. FIDE is one of the legs of the CFC table. If it were to disappear it would not be good for the CFC.
LOL! You are funny the chances of FIDE disappearing is far greater with Kirsan, Already some of his close cronies are on the sanctions list. Gary has many billionares fully behind him both financially and in terms of time and effort. As far is his track is concerned it is funny that you prefer to get in bed instead ,with the biggest thugs on the planet.


We are not talking about your past donations. We are talking about your present behaviour which seems to be to shout over and over in thread after thread saying the same things over and over again as if this will somehow work this time. When was the last time you made a donation? It was certainly pre-2007 as that was when I returned to chess.

Yes so I want get involved again nut you would prefer someone who ha not donated ever pre 2007 or otherwise.



The guy I talked to at the Globe and Mail was not that sympathetic to you. Of course there were two authors. The other guy on Vice.com was hardly a journalist. Using his farcial writing smacks of desperation on Gary's part. We pulled the teeth of his argument when I actually talked to the Canadian government and learned that they were not annoyed with us.

Whatever, the Globe and Mail made you and the CFC look like a fools. THe Canadian government is annoyed at Putin and his cronies if you have not noticed. Quite rightly they recognize that the CFC is an independent organization that can do as they see fit as they correctly stated in the article. I don't see any evidence about the Canadian government endorsing Kirsan.

I still deny it but when you bring it up I read blah blah blah blah blah like Charlie Brown's parents.
Wow that is the most pathetic argument I have ever heard. Despite credible Journals that have meticulously reported Putins close relationship with Kirsan replete with names and positions and numerous chess federations such as Signapore reporting getting contacted directly from Russian embassies Vlad knows better. He just calls it "blah blah blah" You really are making a fool of yourself.


"Nigel insinuating Kirsan having a hand in the murder of a journalist, a lie long ago debunked but conveniently ‘forgotten’ as the FIDE election looms." - Kevin Spraggett

I'm going to go with Kevin on this one. Well, i actually like Kevin a lot but we do not agree on many things and this happens to be one of them. The murder of a journalist who just happened to be Kirsan's biggest opposition at the time and was murdered by Kirsan's Aides who were convicted was heavily reporrted around the world and is beyond debate, it is historical fact.
Are you also a holocaust denier?



Peaceful Buddhist. That is my information from people who are close to him and someone I trust implicitly.

You had better learn who to trust. Calling Kirsan a peaceful Budhist makes you look like an apologist Kirsan is someone who hangs out with the biggest thugs on the planet and is partners with Putin. Sorry if that does not suit your distorted reality.



Kevin Spraggett has some less than flattering things to say about your campaign today. I really don't care if you think I made a fool of myself in the eyes of certain people.

Yes and Kevin Spraggett also recommended that the CFC endorse Gary. Of course you only pick and choose what Spraggett has to say to suit your arguments.
8) This not about me "winning". This is about getting a thriving chess federation going.

What's stopping you? You and a few other in the executive that have misled the majority of governors .

It just happens that Gary could be a big part of this whether he wins the FIDE race or not. As for your concern about the CFC going bankrupt I believe that Sasha has been very careful to point out that the preservation of the existing CGC balance sheet is essential and any new expenses would have to be accretive.
This means new expenses has to be derived from sponsorship dollars (something the CFC has appeared to be masters of repelling) or new revenues.