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Why is Jean Hebert allowed playing in the U2400 section if his CFC rating is 2460? Is he eligible for prizes?
Originally Posted by Denis Gauthier
Louis
Y-a-t-il des règles d'inscription concernant l'indice de cote? Suis-je pénalisé si je m'inscris dans 2000- et que mon indice est 2100?
Denis
Louis responded:
Tu peux jouer dans les moins de 2000, mais sans avoir droit aux prix.
Why is Jean Hebert allowed playing in the U2400 section if his CFC rating is 2460? Is he eligible for prizes?
Originally Posted by Denis Gauthier
Louis
Y-a-t-il des règles d'inscription concernant l'indice de cote? Suis-je pénalisé si je m'inscris dans 2000- et que mon indice est 2100?
Denis
Louis responded:
Tu peux jouer dans les moins de 2000, mais sans avoir droit aux prix.
Source: French Chesstalk
I had to use Google Translate to understand.
I asked this a couple times one year and I didn't get an answer either but I did remember Jean Hebert commenting on a fellow Hart Houser who drew him as a future grandmaster who still remains to this date - a future grandmaster. On a more serious note, Jean is getting on with age and he's not as sharp as he once was (as we will all be one day) and so I see nothing wrong with it as he's done a lot for chess and just wants to cash it in once a year.
Jean's choice of section gives others in the U2400 a chance to play an IM. Cashing in is not so easy for the favorite.
I'm with Hal here. Being the supposedly clear favorite is not an easy job. Jean's actual chances of winning it all are actually quite low since having a few more ratings points doesn't mean much over 9 rounds.
Flashback to 1996: a player named George Katsenos won the U1800 section (and the accompanying $1000) for the third year in a row at the Mauricie Open (Trois-Rivieres). Jean was livid - about this player, and others who managed to keep their ratings just below the section cap in big-money tournaments.
I'm with Hal here. Being the supposedly clear favorite is not an easy job. Jean's actual chances of winning it all are actually quite low since having a few more ratings points doesn't mean much over 9 rounds.
Nonsense! It hasn't been that many years since he was the Canadian champion.
In the U2400 section, only FIDE ratings are considered. Anybody with a FIDE rating lower than 2400 may play and is eligible for prizes.
On the website it says:
"The rating considered will be (as of the start of the tournament):
The highest of FQE or FIDE for residents of Quebec.
The highest of CFC or FIDE for residents of Canada (except Quebec).
The highest rating found (FIDE,USCF, FQE, CFC...) for foreign players. "
It says nothing about only considering FIDE ratings.
Using "The highest of FQE or FIDE for residents of Quebec" would give Jean a rating of 2457 (FIDE) - his FQE rating is 2378. According to these rules, he would be ineligible for the U2400 section.
Also - Omary Shah has an FQE rating (2032) based on two tournaments - one in 2002 and one in 2008. He is eligible for the U2000, since he lives outside of Quebec, and his CFC (1999) and FIDE (1897) ratings are below 2000. They should pair him using his 1999 rating - the 2032 rating will invite questions.
Nonsense! It hasn't been that many years since he was the Canadian champion.
Well, maybe my comment was not clear enough. I'm just talking statistics here. All I'm saying is that being rated only a handful or two of ratings points above some of the other contestants doesn't mean much in a 9 rounds swiss tournament. IM or canadian champion or whatever.
Of course, Jean is the most experienced player in our section. And his FIDE rating happens to put him just below the limit of the section. But he still needs to have a good tournament in order to win the 1st prize. It's not like he's playing a round-robin against a bunch of experts.
"The rating considered will be (as of the start of the tournament):
The highest of FQE or FIDE for residents of Quebec.
The highest of CFC or FIDE for residents of Canada (except Quebec).
The highest rating found (FIDE,USCF, FQE, CFC...) for foreign players. "
It says nothing about only considering FIDE ratings.
Using "The highest of FQE or FIDE for residents of Quebec" would give Jean a rating of 2457 (FIDE) - his FQE rating is 2378. According to these rules, he would be ineligible for the U2400 section.
Look at "Ratings" :
Fide ratings will be used for seedings in sections A and B. For other categories, FQE ratings will be used for Quebec residents. For other Canadian players, the highest rating between CFC and FIDE will be used. For foreign players, the highest rating between FIDE and national rating will be considered.
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