Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

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  • #16
    Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

    Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
    Sasha, as part of your continuing education into democracy, would you mind refraining from posting new business on the meeting board for the incoming Governors' ... 4 days after the meeting closed.

    Thank you.
    Thank you for your help in my "continuing education into democracy".

    And let me help to educate you in the way Russia's propaganda operates: today's first page of the popular Russian newspaper with huge article about what people should eat, and a small print article about Malaysian Airline's tragedy: "Malaysian aircraft has crushed"! When all World knows that it was hit by the missile launched by Russian supported separatists.

    And CFC supports KI, Putin's operative helping Kremlin to control FIDE!
    12:05 "Российская газета" в пятницу на передовице опубликовала большую статью о еде и маленькую заметку о сбитом Boeing777.
    http://vi.ill.in.ua/m/950x0/834969.jpg
    Last edited by Sasha Starr; Friday, 18th July, 2014, 11:22 AM.

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    • #17
      Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

      Welcome to the world.

      The BBC is also referring to a plane crash http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28357880

      I wonder what the US headlines were immediately after the US shot down a passenger jet with the loss of 290 lives? From wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

      "Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes."

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      • #18
        Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

        Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
        Welcome to the world.

        The BBC is also referring to a plane crash http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28357880

        I wonder what the US headlines were immediately after the US shot down a passenger jet with the loss of 290 lives? From wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

        "Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes."
        You are missing the point: look at your quoted today's BBC first page: http://www.bbc.com/news/ - it is the HEADLINE, like in all leading papers around the World. It is a completely different approach in Russia. In some media resources it was even suggested that all the passengers were already dead long before the crush! So who could ever seriously trust Russia unless completely out of one's mind!
        Last edited by Sasha Starr; Friday, 18th July, 2014, 11:58 AM.

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        • #19
          Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

          Originally posted by Sasha Starr View Post
          Thank you for your help in my "continuing education into democracy".

          And let me help to educate you in the way Russia's propaganda operates: today's first page of the popular Russian newspaper with huge article about what people should eat, and a small print article about Malaysian Airline's tragedy: "Malaysian aircraft has crushed"! When all World knows that it was hit by the missile launched by Russian supported separatists.

          And CFC supports KI, Putin's operative helping Kremlin to control FIDE!
          12:05 "Российская газета" в пятницу на передовице опубликовала большую статью о еде и маленькую заметку о сбитом Boeing777.
          http://vi.ill.in.ua/m/950x0/834969.jpg
          I think you're being a bit excessive in your Russia bashing - the article on the plane crash is on the front page of the newspaper. If I go to any of the main news sites like ria.ru, Interfax.ru, news.rambler.ru, it is the lead story. And it hasn't been confirmed anywhere who fired the missile - even CNN are only reporting quotes like "a senior diplomat said the missile was likely fired by pro-Russian separatists."

          Anyway, this has nothing to do with chess. Stop trying to mix sport with politics.

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          • #20
            Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

            Originally posted by Patrick Kirby View Post
            I think you're being a bit excessive in your Russia bashing - the article on the plane crash is on the front page of the newspaper. If I go to any of the main news sites like ria.ru, Interfax.ru, news.rambler.ru, it is the lead story. And it hasn't been confirmed anywhere who fired the missile - even CNN are only reporting quotes like "a senior diplomat said the missile was likely fired by pro-Russian separatists."

            Anyway, this has nothing to do with chess. Stop trying to mix sport with politics.
            Just listen to President's Obama latest announcement. Thank you for your opinion. The CFC's endorsement of KI is a political move: as a chess is concerned Kasparov is a giant, and KI - well, you can fill it up!

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            • #21
              Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

              Originally posted by Sasha Starr View Post
              Just listen to President's Obama latest announcement. Thank you for your opinion. The CFC's endorsement of KI is a political move: as a chess is concerned Kasparov is a giant, and KI - well, you can fill it up!
              The US is the largest arms dealer in the world.

              http://blogs.canoe.ca/parker/news/to...anada-fits-in/
              Gary Ruben
              CC - IA and SIM

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              • #22
                Re: CFC or CCF ?

                Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                Kapustin: "I use this opportunity to extend to you my deepest respect."

                Yeah, OK. One might believe this more if the FSHU President and/or his advisers actually got the name of the Chess Federation of Canada correct. It's a bit like the "poll" here that has an incorrect spelling for the given name of the FIDE President. Children do that sort of thing and think it's mischievous and clever. It's not. When the mistake is unintended, then other adjectives come to mind ...

                The CFC was once the CCF but, since it could be confused with the predecessor of today's NDP, the name was changed.
                It was an unfortunate, but minor, mistake. That's all. It doesn't mean that Kapustin was lying or that the integrity of the Ukrainian Chess Federation has been called into question. There's lots of gray in the real world. Why is it that so much of your world is just black and white?
                "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                • #23
                  Re: CFC or CCF ?

                  Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
                  It was an unfortunate, but minor, mistake. That's all. It doesn't mean that Kapustin was lying or that the integrity of the Ukrainian Chess Federation has been called into question. There's lots of gray in the real world. Why is it that so much of your world is just black and white?
                  Peter, please keep in mind that certain people here are trying to do is to turn your attention away from the actual meaning of the post to some minor irrelevant issues. The diversion, trolling and pollution.

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                  • #24
                    Re: CFC or CCF ?

                    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
                    It was an unfortunate, but minor, mistake. That's all. It doesn't mean that Kapustin was lying or that the integrity of the Ukrainian Chess Federation has been called into question. There's lots of gray in the real world. Why is it that so much of your world is just black and white?
                    It shows how little effort was put into getting things right and belies the claims of "respect" for Canadians. In this regard it's not much different from the same sort of thing from Kasparov.

                    The latter's campaign is such a shambles and they shoot themselves in the foot so often, that all that's left is a bloody stump. It's like some foolish cartoon character ... Elmer Fudd!
                    Last edited by Nigel Hanrahan; Friday, 18th July, 2014, 02:02 PM.
                    Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                    • #25
                      Re: CFC or CCF ?

                      Did you notice the letter isn't dated?
                      Gary Ruben
                      CC - IA and SIM

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                      • #26
                        will the real Elmer Fudd please stand up!

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        Did you notice the letter isn't dated?
                        The only place I see the letter is on the Kasparov campaign website. The story has a date but the letter doesn't. What else is interesting is the use of so-called "Open" letters. FIDE under KI was roundly denounced (on ChessBase I think) for indulging in the use of open letters to get their point of view across; I'd be curious if the same source has anything to say about the practice now that supporters of GK are doing it as well.

                        God, these guys are really bumbling so-and-so's aren't they?
                        Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation

                          Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                          The US is the largest arms dealer in the world.

                          http://blogs.canoe.ca/parker/news/to...anada-fits-in/
                          Here is most recent open letter from Ukrainian Chess Federation:

                          https://mikhailgolubev.files.wordpre...18july2014.pdf

                          AND IT IS DATED!

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                          • #28
                            Re: CFC or CCF ?

                            Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                            It shows how little effort was put into getting things right and belies the claims of "respect" for Canadians.
                            Do we call it even considering the title of this thread? :)

                            "Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation"
                            Christopher Mallon
                            FIDE Arbiter

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                            • #29
                              Re: CFC or CCF ?

                              Originally posted by Christopher Mallon View Post
                              Do we call it even considering the title of this thread? :)

                              "Open Letter From The Ukraniain Chess Federation To The Canadian Chess Federation"
                              Instead of insinuating malice in every typo (fingerfehler)
                              or minor error in grammar or construction in every post,
                              it might be a novel idea to actually debate the contents?
                              ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                              • #30
                                Re: CFC or CCF ?

                                Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
                                Instead of insinuating malice in every typo (fingerfehler)
                                or minor error in grammar or construction in every post,
                                it might be a novel idea to actually debate the contents?
                                I insinuate nothing. One of them apparently spelled our name incorrectly, someone here spelled their name incorrectly, we're even. Right?

                                I'll leave the debate over content to people who have been paying enough attention to actually debate it.
                                Christopher Mallon
                                FIDE Arbiter

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