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What happened to Tata Steel being a top notch event... Missing are many of the 2770+ GMs like Kramnik, Nakamura, Topalov, Anand, Karjakin replaced by second-tier players like Hou, Ding, So, etc...
What happened to Tata Steel being a top notch event... Missing are many of the 2770+ GMs like Kramnik, Nakamura, Topalov, Anand, Karjakin replaced by second-tier players like Hou, Ding, So, etc...
Imagine that! Gutter trash and scumbags like Hou and Ding??!? IT'S AN OUTRAGE!!!! Andy, I think you should write the organizers and give them a piece of your mind (careful! not too big of a piece). Let them feel the full force of your righteous rage: tell them you won't be following the tournament online (for free).
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
@ Andy Shaw....First of all there's Magnus Carlsen and 6 of the 13 participants are in the top 10. The average rating is 2747. Now that's not shabby either. Wesley So isn't excatly a second tier player, listed at world number 10 in the Tata roster. Incidentally, you singled out Asians as not befitting to be in this tournament.. Do have an issue because they're non Caucasian ??
The issue is likely there are no Russian players. Considering where the event is being held I can understand the players from the Netherlands but no Russians is putting politics into sports.
The issue is likely there are no Russian players. Considering where the event is being held I can understand the players from the Netherlands but no Russians is putting politics into sports.
Russian players ? What is the big deal about the absence of Russian players ? Yeah, because of the Urkraine brouhaha ? BTW Who were the 2014 Chess Olympic champions anyways ? Russia ? Nope - its China and Ding Liren was a key player in that team. What about Hou Yifan ? Well, she is JUST the current Woman World Chess Champion the youngest at that and she happens to be a woman. Maybe that's a problem.. eh ? Wesley So who is ELO 2762 and #10 in the world , Ding Liren 2730 and Hou Yifan 2673 ( Women World Chess Champ) are not deserving but Ivan Saric 2680 is golden. I understand. Quit justifying with that Russian boycott angle. The presence of non-Caucasian players in such a prestigious event is a sore sight to some people in this blog.
The issue is likely there are no Russian players. Considering where the event is being held I can understand the players from the Netherlands but no Russians is putting politics into sports.
Noooooooo......don't mention the Russians. Now we'll have to listen to another off-topic rant from the board's Putin apologist. :(
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
@ Andy Shaw....First of all there's Magnus Carlsen and 6 of the 13 participants are in the top 10. The average rating is 2747. Now that's not shabby either. Wesley So isn't excatly a second tier player, listed at world number 10 in the Tata roster. Incidentally, you singled out Asians as not befitting to be in this tournament.. Do have an issue because they're non Caucasian ??
Yeah right... and Hou Yifan Woman World Chess Champ 2014 and Wesley So winner of 3 tournaments - Capablanca Memorial, Golden ACP Classic, Millionaire chess and tied with 6 points (4-6 place) place with Caruana and Dominguez in Tata Steel Masters 2014 are both undeserving eh? What makes you think Saric's feat is more stellar than their accomplishments ? What makes you think Badur Jovaba and Ivanchuk are more deserving than them?
Ivan Saric won Tata Steel B last year which automatically qualified him for the A group. He is well deserving of his spot.
Yeah right... and Hou Yifan Woman World Chess Champ 2014 and Wesley So winner of 3 tournaments - Capablanca Memorial, Golden ACP Classic, Millionaire chess and tied with 6 points (4-6 place) place with Caruana and Dominguez in Tata Steel Masters 2014 are both undeserving eh? What makes you think Saric's feat is more stellar than their accomplishments ? What makes you think Badur Jovaba and Ivanchuk are more deserving than them?
Noooooooo......don't mention the Russians. Now we'll have to listen to another off-topic rant from the board's Putin apologist. :(
Probably there will be more of that. If I'm recalling correctly, the Sinquefield cup also lacked a Russian player. The only thing memorable about that one is it turned out to be uncompetitive.
Yeah right... and Hou Yifan Woman World Chess Champ 2014 and Wesley So winner of 3 tournaments - Capablanca Memorial, Golden ACP Classic, Millionaire chess and tied with 6 points (4-6 place) place with Caruana and Dominguez in Tata Steel Masters 2014 are both undeserving eh? What makes you think Saric's feat is more stellar than their accomplishments ? What makes you think Badur Jovaba and Ivanchuk are more deserving than them?
Let us not forget the business component of chess events. Tata Steel is an Indian corporation and China is a profilic consumer of steel. I heard that in the potential megafight between Pacquiao -Mayweather they would showcase Chinese WBO flyweight Zou Shiming in the undercard and sell PPV in China for 5 bucks and hope to generate a $1B fight which will be unprecedented in history if it happens. Just imagine 50 million out of 1 billion Chinese watching the PPV event.
On singling out Asian players based on the assumption that they won't generate viewership because they are uninteresting or what not is dimwitted and myopic and speaks of the person's ignorance of the state of chess and its global appeal in this day and age. Good that this forum is in Canada otherwise it would be branded as racist elsewhere. It does leave a sour taste in the mouth though.
Last edited by Gus U; Monday, 24th November, 2014, 12:10 PM.
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