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I think you're changing the topic of this thread.
Eric has a good point and I agree with him. If FIDE wants WYCC to be an OPEN tournament that means they don't care if you loose a game in 5 minutes or after 3 hours. As long as you pay the entry fee and all other expenses you're allowed to play.
In 2007 Turkey had 227 players (WYCC was in Turkey), Russia 61 players, India 59 players ... Canada 24 players. Will be Canada's "chess rating" affected if we send to many kids to WYCC? I don't think so. Or maybe the coach will be too busy analyzing the games after each round?
If we want to improve Junior chess in Canada, I believe that promising individuals should have the opportunity to attend such a strong event (in this case WYCC). I think that it is reasonable to propose that an individual rated top 10 in their age group (FIDE, maybe CFC) should be able to participate as long as they provide the registration fee for CYCC, and cover the CFC's additional fees. Personally, I found that when I played in the WYCC 2002 in Greece, it was one of the best chess experiences of my life. I also recently played in Aeroflot Open 2009 B, and although I scored a poor result, I think the experience I gained was incredible. After going to tournaments like CCC for 10 years consecutively and finishing on the podium every year, I realize that most Canadian tournaments are not nearly as valuable to juniors as international events like WYCC.
Sending 10 People in each section from the country would be nice but that would be very inpractical, as if every country did the same with 195 countries in world that would amount to a tournament of (23 400 Players, 11 700 Sets and Clocks)
Setting up the pairings and entering the results would take as long as the round itself lol
Thats why every country should have qualifications and send maybe 3 or less each per section
3 = 7020 Players and 1 = 2 340 Players
Last edited by Lee Hendon; Tuesday, 28th April, 2009, 10:20 PM.
FYI ...
2 years ago in Turkey were 1436 players from 91 countries (227 players from the host country) and it was one of the most successful WYCC.
Let's be realistic, even in Canada, how many parents can afford to spend $4000 for a trip in November so his kid can play 11 chess games?
Seeing how Mr Daswani was so quick to jump on my rather mundane two-line opinion with nothing short of an essay, I felt compelled to offer some clarifications.
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I don't see why this wouldn't work.
That's YOUR fault.
No it's not. That's my opinion on the matter. If you don't agree with it then you can simply say so instead of posting shallow remarks. This just makes you obnoxious.
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IMO the wycc is an interesting experience
Okay, at least one person believes that competing internationally is "interesting". Does anyone agree with him? Does anyone, perhaps, consider it "painfully boring"? I volunteer to keep a tally of people's views on this VERY PERTINENT (NOPE) matter.
WYCC is one of the best opportunities for improvement and international experience that a youth player can have, and Canada should take advantage of this great chance for youth development.
This was rather obvious if you had actually taken the time to read the original post. I also rest my case: I don't know how the tournament conditions in BC are like, but generally international competitions are in fact more interesting than local tournaments. I'm quite certain that most people would agree with me on this one.
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and as long as the players are willing to pay they should be given the chance.
So, you're saying the WYCC should be an open event? WHERE YOU GONNA DRAW THE LINE, CHIEF?
No, I'm not saying that the WYCC should be an open event. Keep in mind that I was writing a reply acknowledging Eric's proposal. I was merely following up on his idea that the tournament should be open to players having met certain rating requirements. I apologize for omitting this fact, but then again I intended it to be a short reply, not a thesis. There is absolutely no need to shout at me uncontrollably here.
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It wouldn't affect the cycc in anyway as the participants are still playing for first place and a free trip.
Diminishing its value wouldn't affect it in any way? Man, let me go over this one for you. Currently, Canadians need to play in the CYCC to qualify for the WYCC. You advocate allowing some Canadians to qualify directly to the WYCC, you know, BYPASSING THE CYCC. That has an impact on the CYCC. You might even say... it affects it. Actually, you wouldn't, but you're the contemptible sort.
Fine. I get what you mean. There certainly will be players who simply decide to not play in the CYCC. But isn't that the whole point of the proposal? The point of the CYCC is first and foremost to determine the Canadian Champion, as well as having the role of determining who gets the free trip valued at 2000-3000$. Why wouldn't a reasonable Canadian youth still play for such stakes? Again, as argued above, not everyone will be able to bypass this; this only applies to certain players whose qualifications were to be discussed in this post. Before you came in and started verbally assaulting everyone.
Speaking of the numerous personal attacks, I will dismiss them as the annoying complaints of a child with a bit too much time. If you couldn't sleep last night because of a simple 30-second reply, then maybe you should consider some anger management programs.
Nitpicking on every sentence other people posts doesn't make you smarter. It just makes you look like a complete asshole.
I will leave to the other posters to defend themselves, despite remarking the continuously occurring logical fallacies in Mr Daswani's following arguments.
Sending 10 People in each section from the country would be nice but that would be very inpractical, as if every country did the same with 195 countries in world that would amount to a tournament of (23 400 Players, 11 700 Sets and Clocks)
Setting up the pairings and entering the results would take as long as the round itself lol
Thats why every country should have qualifications and send maybe 3 or less each per section
3 = 7020 Players and 1 = 2 340 Players
Many countries do not have the financial conditions to send such a high number of players.
Yes i know that, however there should be some standard the players should be held to advance from each stage to worlds and not just because they want to go. ie qualification tournaments
That is reasonable. Maybe the number of individuals that qualify can be increased, or (farfetched) a universal rating requirement could be implemented for each rating class.
Last edited by Kevin Me; Tuesday, 28th April, 2009, 11:58 PM.
No wonder the CFC is corrupt, and is losing money constantly.
Kevin, your post is wrong on two counts, and pretty insulting to a lot of people that you may know personally, such as Saskatchewan's CFC governor(s).
Do you know what "corrupt" means? Are you honestly saying that the volunteers in the CFC (which is made up of the governors, myself included, and the executive) are corrupt?
Sorry if my post was offensive to anybody. But maybe the CFC could at least assess suggestions a bit more openly. Lighten up people, it's just a discussion board.
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