Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

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  • #16
    Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

    Originally posted by J. Ken MacDonald View Post
    Does a berth in round 4 get an additional $20K or an additional amount to total $20K? And so on?
    A berth in R4 gets you an additional $16,000 ($12,800 after the 20% FIDE tax). If you make it out of R4 to R5 you get an additional $25,000 ($20,000 after the 20% FIDE tax). There is a substantial prize fund for each round as identified in the Wiki link supra. The total prize fund is $1,600,000

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    • #17
      Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

      Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
      A berth in R4 gets you an additional $16,000 ($12,800 after the 20% FIDE tax). If you make it out of R4 to R5 you get an additional $25,000 ($20,000 after the 20% FIDE tax). There is a substantial prize fund for each round as identified in the Wiki link supra. The total prize fund is $1,600,000
      Maybe I am misunderstanding what you have written, but this seems incorrect.

      "Round 1 64 × US $6,000 US $384,000" Therefore, the 64 players who lose in round one get $6K (minus FIDE's 20%). There is no mention of the 64 winners getting any of this.

      "Round 2 32 × US $10,000 US $320,000" Therefore, the 32 players who lose in round two get $10K (minus FIDE's 20%). There is no mention of the 32 winners getting any of this.

      Since Anton has made it to round three he gets $16K minus 20%. He doesn't get money from rounds one and two otherwise it would say 128xUS$6000, etc. No?
      "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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      • #18
        Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

        Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
        Maybe I am misunderstanding what you have written, but this seems incorrect.

        "Round 1 64 × US $6,000 US $384,000" Therefore, the 64 players who lose in round one get $6K (minus FIDE's 20%). There is no mention of the 64 winners getting any of this.

        "Round 2 32 × US $10,000 US $320,000" Therefore, the 32 players who lose in round two get $10K (minus FIDE's 20%). There is no mention of the 32 winners getting any of this.

        Since Anton has made it to round three he gets $16K minus 20%. He doesn't get money from rounds one and two otherwise it would say 128xUS$6000, etc. No?
        Tom, the 64 winners from R1 all won $6,000 ($4,800 after the 20% FIDE tax). The 64 losers got nothing. The 32 winners from R2 all won $10,000 ($8,000 net). Again, the 32 losers got nothing except their R1 winnings. Thus the 32 who make it to R3 have won $16,000 ($12,800 net) from their R1 and R2 victories. In R3 there will be 16 winners who get an additional $16,000 ($12,800 net). Thus, Anton Kovalov has won $12,800 (net) for his R1 and R2 wins and will double this figure if he manages to prevail against Caruana.

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        • #19
          Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

          Tom had it right Jack, you are wrong. I don't know about Wikipedia, I go by the FIDE Handbook. If Anton loses to Caruana, he comes home with $12,800 minus personal expenses.

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          • #20
            Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

            Originally posted by Hal Bond View Post
            Tom had it right Jack, you are wrong. I don't know about Wikipedia, I go by the FIDE Handbook. If Anton loses to Caruana, he comes home with $12,800 minus personal expenses.
            How am I wrong, Hal, when I said Anton has won $12,800 ($4,800 for his R1 win and $8,000 for his R2 win) to date and is playing for an additional $12,800 against Caruana? You might want to read my post again.

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            • #21
              Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

              Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
              Tom, the 64 winners from R1 all won $6,000 ($4,800 after the 20% FIDE tax). The 64 losers got nothing. The 32 winners from R2 all won $10,000 ($8,000 net). Again, the 32 losers got nothing except their R1 winnings. Thus the 32 who make it to R3 have won $16,000 ($12,800 net) from their R1 and R2 victories. In R3 there will be 16 winners who get an additional $16,000 ($12,800 net). Thus, Anton Kovalov has won $12,800 (net) for his R1 and R2 wins and will double this figure if he manages to prevail against Caruana.
              The losers from round one didn't get nothing. They got $4800 each.
              "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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              • #22
                Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

                Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
                The losers from round one didn't get nothing. They got $4800 each.
                Despite the fact that Hal says you're right and I'm wrong, Tom, I don't think so.

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                • #23
                  Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

                  The prizes don't accumulate Jack. A loser in round 3 gets $12,800. The loser in round 4 gets $20,000. Not $25,600.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

                    I guess I'll eat some Corvus now since FIDE (3.9) does indicate the $4,800 and $6,000 is paid out to the losers. Of course, the winners are guaranteed winning no less than this amount so that is why Hal's and my $12,800 figure are one in the same.

                    https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/W...egulations.pdf
                    Last edited by Jack Maguire; Tuesday, 15th September, 2015, 06:41 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Anton Kovalyov vs. Sandro Mareco

                      Congratulations, Anton, on a good result in the World Cup. All the best on rising toward the 2700 line in the coming year, assisted by my friend---and academic paper co-author!---Bartek Macieja.

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                      • #26
                        There is no FIDE tax on player's earnings.

                        Originally posted by Jack Maguire View Post
                        Tom, the 64 winners from R1 all won $6,000 ($4,800 after the 20% FIDE tax). ...(etc.)
                        According to the official website, there is no FIDE tax.

                        The players are getting 100% of their prizes, not 80% as most are quoting. This is because the Organizers paid the FIDE share on top of the Prize Fund.
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                        • #27
                          Re: There is no FIDE tax on player's earnings.

                          Bonus!! They are paying out more that the regulations dictate?! I hope this generosity extends to the Olympiad next year!

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