Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Response

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

The situation is explained on the FIDE website by Jorge Vega the Continental president of FIDE America.

Dear All,

I have read more than once, Mr. Filatov´s interview published on FIDE web site, and besides giving an excellent view of Russian chess and the tasks he faces as President of the RCF, he gives his personal point of view about FIDE and its future about which I would like to comment.

Before making any comments, it is necessary to speak about the origin of the situation created by the sanctions imposed by the US Treasury Department on the FIDE President, forbidding US citizens or companies having any economic dealing with him and freezing all his assets in the USA. Mr Iljumzjinov has filed a lawsuit against the US Treasury Department actions and shall fight against the sanctions in the US courts, claiming USD 20 billion for the damage done to his prestige.

Under these circumstances, at the 4Q Presidential Board meeting held at Athens in December 2015, Mr. Ilyumzhinov announced that he was asking to temporary step down, transferring all his functions in FIDE to the Deputy President according to FIDE Statutes. This was in order to protect FIDE and to have time to deal with the USA sanctions. His proposal was almost unanimously accepted by the Presidential Board and it was published on the FIDE web site.

First of all I agree with Mr. Filatov when he says that it will be very difficult for Mr. Ilyumzhinov to win the case. Personally, I believe that it will take a long time to reach a final decision, whatever it might be. I also agree with Mr. Filatov when he says that the sanctions are a serious blow to FIDE regarding the position of potential sponsors.

Then comes the question of the actual situation. As nothing has changed and the sanctions remain in force, I think the situation remains the same. So there is no reason to reverse the Athens PB decision, nor is it necessary to call for a vote to reverse it. I consider that at the moment the sanctions are lifted, Mr. Ilyumzhinov will recover all the powers as FIDE President.

Another question is what may happen in 2018. Mr. Filatov has said that he is not interested in running as FIDE President. Mr. Makropoulos, who is an excellent Chief of Staff, has said the same. Mr. Filatov also analyses the possibility that two Russian GMs may run in the 2018 Presidential race. I agree that although elections may seem very far off, it is necessary to think about it and be prepared well in advance. I am sure and shall not be surprised if other names are mentioned.

I appreciate very much the work Mr. Ilyumzhinov has done in the past as FIDE President, I cannot forget how he rescued FIDE from its financial problems in 1995 and how much he has spent from his own pocket for chess, nevertheless our main obligation is with FIDE as an institution and we must protect it from anything that may harm its work.


Jorge Vega

Continental President for America
Member of the Presidential Board

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

That said, FIDE continues forward without him for now.

Not really, take a look at the FIDE website. Still says he is president as Kirsan has stated himself. The idea that the US Treasury Department would find anything less then in his absolute divorce and complete dissociation from this organization acceptable is sheer folly.

http://FIDE.com

No one is a criminal until they are convicted in a court of law or at least on YouTube.

Sorry, wrong again sweetheart. Specially designated Nationals are considered criminals by the United States Government.

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce...s/default.aspx

As part of its enforcement efforts, OFAC publishes a list of individuals and companies owned or controlled by, or acting for or on behalf of, targeted countries. It also lists individuals, groups, and entities, such as terrorists and narcotics traffickers designated under programs that are not country-specific. Collectively, such individuals and companies are called "Specially Designated Nationals" or "SDNs." Their assets are blocked and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from dealing with them. Click here for more information on Treasury's Sanctions Programs.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

It probably would have been worse than the GMA and PCA.

That did not stop him to be part of the 2015 Grand chess tour.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

as Drkulec surly was

If I was posting on chesstalk of course I was surly.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

While I expect a Kasparov presidency would have been a complete fiasco in the vein of the GMA and PCA, what happened to Kirsan is that he's a criminal. There's nothing "unfortunate" about it, no matter how much he did for chess.

It probably would have been worse than the GMA and PCA.

No one is a criminal until they are convicted in a court of law or at least on YouTube.

[Neil Frarey]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

I don't what GM Kasparov would have been able to accomplish having not to sail into the wind ...but I have a strong sense it could have been on many levels prosperous fresh start for FIDE. GMA & PCA didn't have the roots as that of FIDE. Perhaps, not a fair comparison?

But David, those who are warned of such a criminal as Kirsan, as Drkulec surly was, then disregard those warnings, go ahead and support such a criminal as leading figure of national chess bodies such as the Chess Federation of Canada ... that character needs to be removed from representing our national interest(s).

We are better than that!

Thank goodness Sid Belzberg has repeatedly taken the time needed to painfully illustrate just how much so.

...

Enough already with those how persist to look the other way.

We are better than that!



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[David Ottosen]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

Its unfortunate what happened with Kirsan..

While I expect a Kasparov presidency would have been a complete fiasco in the vein of the GMA and PCA, what happened to Kirsan is that he's a criminal. There's nothing "unfortunate" about it, no matter how much he did for chess.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Chess Talk literary awards

Vlad Drkulec: " ... If you want to get rid of me stop scaring off my replacements."



Don't rush to judgment! On this thread anyway, my vote SO FAR goes to the following contribution by Vlad "the Impaler" Drkulec ...



But please. Let's give Sid and others a chance. There's always the possibility of some really, really inane remark that may evoke another gem from our beleaguered, but happily mischievous, CFC President.

Hopefully Sid will settle down now that I have found a way to post again. The CFC board is under no compulsion to descend into the muck like chesstalk. I make no apologies for preventing that.

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

My God, that's brilliant! I would like to propose this receive the 2016 ChessTalk One-Liner of the Year Award! ;)

It is not so much brilliant as it is reality. I get lots of people who send me email supporting me in my efforts and decrying the cesspool that chesstalk becomes at times. Sid is probably the only one that has some credibility in the non chess world so I do have to respond to him when he starts making the types of noises he makes. My alternative would be to become involved in a lawsuit but who really wants to make a bunch of lawyers richer when it is so easy to shred the logic and expose the lack of veracity of the detractors.

Its unfortunate what happened with Kirsan. He did a lot for chess. I hope he is able to clear his name. That said, FIDE continues forward without him for now. No self respecting person could vote for Kasparov based on the behaviour that his campaign exhibited and the pattern of behaviour of some of his supporters in Canada. It wasn't like it was an impulsive decision. There was a long drawn out discussion of the executive. Then there was the points where some of the governors who were Kasparov supporters tried to seize the right to make the decision. Then there was the campaign waged in the media and all of the threats. Well guess what, in most cases the threat is worse than its execution. The campaign in Canada drew world wide attention and I don't think that benefited the Kasparov campaign.

The governors were made aware of everything that was going on and they voted for the status quo. Then of course there was the late arm twisting of the executive that didn't go anywhere followed by the CFC election which once again just reaffirmed pretty much the same executive with the only change being someone who decided not to run.

Anyway all I really want to do is teach kids how to play chess and steer chess in Canada in the right direction to the best of my ability. Along the way I have upset some people. I understand and accept that. For those who have lost some battles and are vowing vengeance, you really don't understand what you are up against. I am forgiving but I am not stupid and I am quite stubborn. As Leonard Cohen said, "You know how to stop me but you don't have the discipline."

We live in some exciting times for Canadian chess. They are about to get more exciting. Lets move forward on this adventure together.

[Nigel Hanrahan]

Chess Talk literary awards

Vlad Drkulec: " ... If you want to get rid of me stop scaring off my replacements."

My God, that's brilliant! I would like to propose this receive the 2016 ChessTalk One-Liner of the Year Award! ;)

Don't rush to judgment! On this thread anyway, my vote SO FAR goes to the following contribution by Vlad "the Impaler" Drkulec ...

You sure spend a lot of time haranguing someone who you repeatedly say is not worth it.

But please. Let's give Sid and others a chance. There's always the possibility of some really, really inane remark that may evoke another gem from our beleaguered, but happily mischievous, CFC President.

[Aris Marghetis]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

... If you want to get rid of me stop scaring off my replacements.

My God, that's brilliant! I would like to propose this receive the 2016 ChessTalk One-Liner of the Year Award! ;)

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

Obviously you know that I clarified on chesstalk your misunderstanding that the offer was conditional on Garry getting elected. Furthermore Mig Greegard pledged unconditional support on behalf of Garry here on chesstalk, (even after you maligned Garry for many months). The only die that was cast was your ego to show who is boss. Like I said Vlad, congrats you won!

The maligning was mutual as were the attempts to undermine myself and Hal Bond with other members of the executive, in the media and on Twitter by people at times associated with and at times disavowed by the Kasparov campaign. There is no point in going over this ground over and over again. As long as I am able to respond to your provocations, I am able to defuse the intended effect of your posts and you will usually descend into incoherence and name calling. Most rational people don't understand my strong response here but I think it is important at this sensitive time to respond strongly. Until such time as some other substantial candidate emerges with an interest in becoming CFC president, you are stuck with me. The attacks by you and others simply postpone that day as you scare off potential replacements for me who don't want to deal with the insanity of chesstalk. If anything you are strengthening my hand and I really don't want my hand to be strengthened. I don't want to be president for life. Back off. If you want to get rid of me stop scaring off my replacements.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

You may have amended this offer on chesstalk much later after the die had been cast

Obviously you know that I clarified on chesstalk your misunderstanding that the offer was conditional on Garry getting elected. Furthermore Mig Greegard pledged unconditional support on behalf of Garry here on chesstalk, (even after you maligned Garry for many months). The only die that was cast was your ego to show who is boss. Like I said Vlad, congrats you won!

[Vlad Drkulec]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

Sure, and my offers to get reinvolved were rebuffed by you, you moron.

Your offer to me in that phone call we shared in April while you were in a cab presumably in New York was, "IF Garry wins the election then I will consider becoming involved in Canadian chess again." I still have the notebook where I recorded some notes about our conversation. As the qualifier to your statement about reinvolving yourself in Canadian chess was something which looked like a very low probability outcome (Garry winning the election), it had to be discounted by the appropriate amount. You did say that supporting Kasparov was the morally right thing to do. You asked us to involve ourselves intimately in the Kasparov campaign and nominate him by the week of May 1st. You said that Garry was leading in Asia and Africa (my information was that you were not correct in this assertion). You said that a win for Garry would have huge upside for chess, legitimizing it.

You may have amended this offer on chesstalk much later after the die had been cast and many words had been exchanged but by then the decision had been made and there was no going back.

[Sid Belzberg]

Re: Vlad Drucklec Censor's My Response's to him On The CFC Discussion Boards My Resp

We lost that person long time ago, well before I returned to chess in 2007. HTH.

Sure, and my offers to get reinvolved were rebuffed by you, you moron.