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What you are not mentioning is that the Dems are the ones who were TARGETED. If the Repugs had been targeted, the result would have been the same or worse. But we're ok now, because Trump is going to change everything: no more computers, all communications to use bicycle couriers!
And if you are wondering who will be the next female USA president. Not Hillary Clinton but Ivanka TRUMP!!! Keep my prophecy Paul... I am very sorry for you because you don't have a GOD, because you think you are as smart as "Steven Hawking".
I think a vain hope re peaceful, non-violent right of assembly.
I saw an article about a month ago I think (I'd have to go scroll down for a long time, and even then could miss it) - 7 USA states had bills now before them to allow municipalities, I think, to manage/limit the peaceful right of assembly (Beyond permits for road-blocking, etc.). Someone else know about this?
Bob A
They don't need any new bills. Current laws are pretty severe if you are engaged in rioting and can result in prison terms between two and 15 years in some cases. The problem is when the local politicians look the other way and tell the police to do the same.
Trump - There's a lot of killers... Do you think our country is so innocent?
Trump recently had an interview with Bill O'Reilly of FoxTV (to be played this week) in which the conversation went something like this ...
O'Reilly: (following up a discussion of Russian President V.V. Putin) "Putin's a killer."
Trump: "There's a lot of killers. ...Do you think our country is so innocent?"
Many in the blogosphere are going nuts over this remark. Trump has violated an enormous taboo - the taboo of American Exceptionalism - which has been dutifully regurgitated by every US President since WW2. This also comes on the heels of Trump's very neutral phone call with the current Ukrainian President, Poroshenko, which was unusually preceded by Trump talking to a leading Ukr Opposition figure (Tymoshenko) before he even met with Poroshenko.
The fiction of American Exceptionalism, that the US is some shining beacon of light on a hill, rather than the Orwellian spying (5)eye(s) and dungeon for the rendered and un-personed that it has become, that therefore all other countries must follow the US model (or die), and so on, has come under plenty of criticism in recent years, with the millions of deaths and displaced persons (leading to a migratory crisis in Europe) in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Sudan, Yemen, and so on. However, no President has seriously pulled the curtain back, and acknowledged what everyone knows, e.g. when Obama said "We tortured some folks", that the US is a very un-exceptional country that does all the same cruel things that other regimes do, and then some. If the US under Trump really does pull back from the endless and horrific "regime change" menu of recent decades, then this might be serious progress from a very unexpected source.
This sort of sea change might affect the politics of global chess, notwithstanding the predictable and steady stream of Russophobic drivel from the likes of Kasparov, Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland, and the cabal of neo-con zealots.
And, strange as that sounds, despite the enormous protests that Trump is already facing for some of his other policy initiatives, a chastened, more modest US foreign policy - a geopolitical realism rather than a predatory hegemon - might be just what we need. But it's still early days.
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Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.
You nailed it.....very, very scary when the whole trending of the governing issue in the USA now is the "fast-tracking" toward authoritarianism (If not Fascism itself)
Bob A
The fascism is inherent in trying to suppress the free speech rights of those who do not agree with the principles of the Democratic Party and its liberal elites. Regardless of what fake news CNN might report the rioters were not right wingers. Totalitarianism comes from the left.
Re: Trump - There's a lot of killers... Do you think our country is so innocent?
This was an amazing statement and if he backs up his rhetoric with action (e.g. getting out of much of the ME) then I think Trump will easily win re-election. Can you imagine Hillary Clinton making such a statement?
Trump recently had an interview with Bill O'Reilly of FoxTV (to be played this week) in which the conversation went something like this ...
O'Reilly: (following up a discussion of Russian President V.V. Putin) "Putin's a killer."
Trump: "There's a lot of killers. ...Do you think our country is so innocent?"
Many in the blogosphere are going nuts over this remark. Trump has violated an enormous taboo - the taboo of American Exceptionalism - which has been dutifully regurgitated by every US President since WW2. This also comes on the heels of Trump's very neutral phone call with the current Ukrainian President, Poroshenko, which was unusually preceded by Trump talking to a leading Ukr Opposition figure (Tymoshenko) before he even met with Poroshenko.
The fiction of American Exceptionalism, that the US is some shining beacon of light on a hill, rather than the Orwellian spying (5)eye(s) and dungeon for the rendered and un-personed that it has become, that therefore all other countries must follow the US model (or die), and so on, has come under plenty of criticism in recent years, with the millions of deaths and displaced persons (leading to a migratory crisis in Europe) in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Sudan, Yemen, and so on. However, no President has seriously pulled the curtain back, and acknowledged what everyone knows, e.g. when Obama said "We tortured some folks", that the US is a very un-exceptional country that does all the same cruel things that other regimes do, and then some. If the US under Trump really does pull back from the endless and horrific "regime change" menu of recent decades, then this might be serious progress from a very unexpected source.
This sort of sea change might affect the politics of global chess, notwithstanding the predictable and steady stream of Russophobic drivel from the likes of Kasparov, Robert Kagan, Victoria Nuland, and the cabal of neo-con zealots.
And, strange as that sounds, despite the enormous protests that Trump is already facing for some of his other policy initiatives, a chastened, more modest US foreign policy - a geopolitical realism rather than a predatory hegemon - might be just what we need. But it's still early days.
"Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.
It will prove to be truly historical if he repeats it, and continues to do so, to the extent that he causes the entire American self-delusion to collapse. This is the best thing that Trump could do, and he would go down as the greatest President in American history if he were to do so.
I hope Trump continues to make statements like this, so long as they are true, and this one certainly is.
A world map I once saw on the Net (on a wikipedia page?) showed that many nations (but apparently not a crushing majority) are indeed currently 'socialist'. At least the (left-wing) media claims that populist (alluded to as 'right-wing') movements are now springing up (e.g. Brexit, Trump), and said media sees this as an ominous trend. It's funny how little attention places like Saudi Arabia get from said media, or feminists. Perhaps the latter prefer a soft target to protest, rather than possibly risking their personal safety. Fwiw, I still see Trump as someone who has a colossal ego, and who seems to easily have the potential to one day magnify himself above all 'gods'.
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Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer
A world map I once saw on the Net (on a wikipedia page?) showed that many nations (but apparently not a crushing majority) are indeed currently 'socialist'. At least the (left-wing) media claims that populist (alluded to as 'right-wing') movements are now springing up (e.g. Brexit, Trump), and said media sees this as an ominous trend. It's funny how little attention places like Saudi Arabia get from said media, or feminists. Perhaps the latter prefer a soft target to protest, rather than possibly risking their personal safety. Fwiw, I still see Trump as someone who has a colossal ego, and who seems to easily have the potential to one day magnify himself above all 'gods'.
He's a Christian (though he doesn't always act like one) so I see that as unlikely.
You were talking dictatorships. Almost all dictatorships are of the left wing variety these days.
I enter this political thread with a great deal of trepidation!
On January 30, 2017, Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson sued to block key portions of President Trump’s executive order on travel. Trump’s executive order had barred entry to the United States by refugees and visa holders from seven predominantly Muslim countries. On February 3, a judge granted Ferguson’s request for a temporary restraining order, meaning that federal employees cannot enforce Trump’s executive order.
Today, at a hearing of oral arguments for and against, three judges on the San Francisco-based 9th Circuit Court of Appeals focused narrowly on whether a restraining order issued by a lower court should remain in effect while a challenge to the ban proceeds. The judges also will look at the constitutional questions surrounding Trump’s order.
Whatever the court eventually decides, either side could ask the Supreme Court to intervene.
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I have listened to Bob Ferguson speak on CNN and he seems confident and rational.
He evidently has a long history in chess and this story is related in ChessBase today by Alexey Root:
When I was still Alexey Rudolph I lost a chess match to Bob (then Bobby) Ferguson. Like the Ferguson-Trump showdown, which was on the front page of the New York Times, Ferguson-Rudolph was front page news. Except that Bobby and I were on the front cover of Northwest Chess. Its editor, Robert Karch, had decided that Bobby and I should play a four-game match. Karch put up $150 as prize money. He solicited contributions to the prize fund, and three chess players kicked in $10 each. So Bobby and I were playing for $180. Big money in 1978 for two 13-year-old kids!
Before that match in December of 1978, I had drawn Bobby twice in other tournaments. The first game of the match was adjourned at move 49, on December 29 in Seattle, Bobby’s hometown. Bobby was ill for the second game, scheduled for December 30 in Seattle. But he didn’t tell me in time. So, forfeit win for me! Unfortunately, that was my last win of the match. When the match resumed in March in my hometown of Tacoma, I lost the adjournment, drew game three, and lost game four.
However, I defeated Bobby in the summer of 1980, when I won the “Future Hopes International,” a six-player round robin tournament held in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, 5-0. Bobby, my fellow Washington State resident, was second with 3.5-1.5. Thus both of us finished ahead of Tom O’Donnell of Vancouver, British Columbia, who was third but later became an International Master.
Bob became a national master (US Chess ratings) and was also rated as a master by FIDE.
Of course there are much more critical views of Trump. Chris Hedges, an award-winning journalist shut out from the MSM once he refused to cheerlead the invasion of Iraq has some interesting remarks. Hedges is like a modern-day John the Baptist, preaching the gospel of socialism, and he has the religious credentials to back it up.
Originally posted by Chris Hedges
Donald Trump’s regime is rapidly reconfiguring the United States into an authoritarian state. All forms of dissent will soon be criminalized. Civil liberties will no longer exist. Corporate exploitation, through the abolition of regulations and laws, will be unimpeded. Global warming will accelerate. A repugnant nationalism, amplified by government propaganda, will promote bigotry and racism. Hate crimes will explode. New wars will be launched or expanded.
And, as this happens, those Americans who remain passive will be complicit.
Hedges says: "Now is the time not to cooperate. Now is the time to shut down the systems of power. Now is the time to resist. It is our last chance. The fanatics are moving with lightning speed. So should we. "
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