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Pre-registered players to the Canadian Championship
Re : Pre-registered players to the Canadian Championship
Here is the current list of pre-registered players (13 players, including only 4 outside Quebec). All players rated 2000 or more (ou with an index of 20) may register. A 6/9 result or better gives the FIDE master title. The winner becomes international master (if he was not already), while players finsishing 2nd and 3rd get an IM norm. The winner also gets 1500 $ and will play in the World Cup.
FQE CFC FIDE Name Prov Highest rating FQE, CFC ou FIDE
101405 132534 2604922 NORITSYN, Nikolay ON 2598
50264 106923 2600170 LE SIEGE, Alexandre QC 2584
102717 153480 2616688 YU, Zong Yang QC 2466
70424 107950 2601079 DUONG, Thanh Nha QC 2314
105002 152648 2621770 SONG, Sam NB 2284
40443 102959 2603489 BOLDUC, Steve QC 2276
103895 156151 2619903 HUANG, Qiuyu QC 2234
91754 127517 2013304 MILLS, Morgon NF 2206
24838 101973 2600803 CHABOT, Roland QC 2202
104775 153838 2620561 GAISINSKY, Adam ON 2070
83766 111552 nil LECOMTE, André QC 1947*
43154 107464 2601460 MORIN, Louis QC 1917*
64552 nil nil OSTACI, Liviu QC 1736*
Here is the current list of pre-registered players (13 players, including only 4 outside Quebec). All players rated 2000 or more (ou with an index of 20) may register. A 6/9 result or better gives the FIDE master title. The winner becomes international master (if he was not already), while players finsishing 2nd and 3rd get an IM norm. The winner also gets 1500 $ and will play in the World Cup.
FQE CFC FIDE Name Prov Highest rating FQE, CFC ou FIDE
101405 132534 2604922 NORITSYN, Nikolay ON 2598
50264 106923 2600170 LE SIEGE, Alexandre QC 2584
102717 153480 2616688 YU, Zong Yang QC 2466
70424 107950 2601079 DUONG, Thanh Nha QC 2314
105002 152648 2621770 SONG, Sam NB 2284
40443 102959 2603489 BOLDUC, Steve QC 2276
103895 156151 2619903 HUANG, Qiuyu QC 2234
91754 127517 2013304 MILLS, Morgon NF 2206
24838 101973 2600803 CHABOT, Roland QC 2202
104775 153838 2620561 GAISINSKY, Adam ON 2070
83766 111552 nil LECOMTE, André QC 1947*
43154 107464 2601460 MORIN, Louis QC 1917*
64552 nil nil OSTACI, Liviu QC 1736*
I know Alexandre Le Siege has staged a very impressive comeback after a long absence from tournament chess, but seriously, am I the only one who is wondering why the lower limit for the Canadian Closed Championship is 2000 (and not, say 2200) and to make it even more bizarre, it isn't a current rating of 2000 but allowing anyone who "had 2000+ in the past" ?
I thought I saw Aman Hambleton comment somewhere else about this(?)
I have to presume the CFC is ok with this arrangement for qualifying - I suppose the Handbook isn't a handbook anymore, so there is no point in looking there?
I know Alexandre Le Siege has staged a very impressive comeback after a long absence from tournament chess, but seriously, am I the only one who is wondering why the lower limit for the Canadian Closed Championship is 2000 (and not, say 2200) and to make it even more bizarre, it isn't a current rating of 2000 but allowing anyone who "had 2000+ in the past" ?
I thought I saw Aman Hambleton comment somewhere else about this(?)
I have to presume the CFC is ok with this arrangement for qualifying - I suppose the Handbook isn't a handbook anymore, so there is no point in looking there?
Asking for a friend... :)
"Eligibility: Open to rated players over 2000 CFC, FQE or FIDE + Provincial Champion"
I don't think the FQE made up this rule. It was already there. And some provincial champions may be rated significantly less than 2000.
I know Alexandre Le Siege has staged a very impressive comeback after a long absence from tournament chess, but seriously, am I the only one who is wondering why the lower limit for the Canadian Closed Championship is 2000 (and not, say 2200) and to make it even more bizarre, it isn't a current rating of 2000 but allowing anyone who "had 2000+ in the past" ?
The formula is screwed from the start and always has been. The organizers are trying to finance the tournament with entry fees and at the same to restrict it so as to get a stronger event.
Both goals are obviously contradictory. Without sponsorship such a formula is doomed to be unsatisfactory.
The formula is screwed from the start and always has been. The organizers are trying to finance the tournament with entry fees and at the same to restrict it so as to get a stronger event.
Both goals are obviously contradictory. Without sponsorship such a formula is doomed to be unsatisfactory.
Good to know, Jean, that in all these intervening years since 2009 you have been working hard to bring new sponsorship into Canadian chess and as a result the problems of the past have disappeared.
Wait..... what? You've been sitting on your hands all these years WAITING for tournament organizers to bring new in new sponsorship?
Rest assured, Jean, that new sponsorship is right around the corner. Keep waiting!
Only the rushing is heard...
Onward flies the bird.
Good to know, Jean, that in all these intervening years since 2009 you have been working hard to bring new sponsorship into Canadian chess and as a result the problems of the past have disappeared.
Wait..... what? You've been sitting on your hands all these years WAITING for tournament organizers to bring new in new sponsorship?
Rest assured, Jean, that new sponsorship is right around the corner. Keep waiting!
What a pathetic shot. I am certain Jean has done orders of magnitude more than you have done, sniping from the sidelines.
What a pathetic shot. I am certain Jean has done orders of magnitude more than you have done, sniping from the sidelines.
How quickly they forget. Get an education, Kerry.
When I snipe from the sidelines, it is not against organizers. They are the lifeblood of organized chess. In fact, my sniping has much more to do with people who ARE sniping against organizers. And the prime suspect in that is Jean Hebert. He has a lifetime record of sniping against organizers.
When you say Jean has done orders of magnitude more than I.... exactly what are you referring to? If you just mean Jean has done more for chess in general, fine, I can agree because of his accomplishments as a player. But if you say he has done more for chess SPONSORSHIP, you are crazy. While I haven't done anything for chess sponsorship, Jean has done a truckload of things AGAINST chess sponsorship. I think David Ottosen for one would second me on that statement.
If you disagree, you'll have to be a lot more specific.
Have you done any organizing, Kerry? Do you know firsthand how much work it is? Do you know firsthand how difficult it is to get sponsors of chess events while at the same time trying to nail down all the details that go with organizing an event? I doubt very much you have any firsthand inkling of any of that.
You need to have an awakening and realize how much Jean Hebert has knocked the legs out from under organizers, not just once or twice, but again and again over years. You want to use the word "sniping", Jean Hebert is the KING of sniping in Canadian chess.
Only the rushing is heard...
Onward flies the bird.
When I snipe from the sidelines, it is not against organizers. They are the lifeblood of organized chess. In fact, my sniping has much more to do with people who ARE sniping against organizers. And the prime suspect in that is Jean Hebert. He has a lifetime record of sniping against organizers.
When you say Jean has done orders of magnitude more than I.... exactly what are you referring to? If you just mean Jean has done more for chess in general, fine, I can agree because of his accomplishments as a player. But if you say he has done more for chess SPONSORSHIP, you are crazy. While I haven't done anything for chess sponsorship, Jean has done a truckload of things AGAINST chess sponsorship. I think David Ottosen for one would second me on that statement.
If you disagree, you'll have to be a lot more specific.
Have you done any organizing, Kerry? Do you know firsthand how much work it is? Do you know firsthand how difficult it is to get sponsors of chess events while at the same time trying to nail down all the details that go with organizing an event? I doubt very much you have any firsthand inkling of any of that.
You need to have an awakening and realize how much Jean Hebert has knocked the legs out from under organizers, not just once or twice, but again and again over years. You want to use the word "sniping", Jean Hebert is the KING of sniping in Canadian chess.
Don't make this about what I have or have not done. I took you to task for taking a cheap shot at someone who actually plays chess at a high level and represents Canada and stands by his principles... That is all.
I think requiring Jean to also organize or drum up sponsors or whatever else you think he should be doing is a cheap shot - especially since I don't believe you do anything that benefits chess there in academia. But I can see this going no where since I criticized *you* - you make Trump's mastery of deflection look amateurish, so I am over and out.
Don't make this about what I have or have not done. I took you to task for taking a cheap shot at someone who actually plays chess at a high level and represents Canada and stands by his principles... That is all.
I think requiring Jean to also organize or drum up sponsors or whatever else you think he should be doing is a cheap shot - especially since I don't believe you do anything that benefits chess there in academia. But I can see this going no where since I criticized *you* - you make Trump's mastery of deflection look amateurish, so I am over and out.
Jean Hebert has a long history of taking cheap shots against chess organizers. Are you disputing that?
If you want to call my criticism of him for that a cheap shot, that's fine, but recognize that I use his own technique against him.
This is going nowhere, as you say, but not for the reason you state. It goes nowhere for reasons I've outlined in the past, i.e. the "chess ecosystem". If you want to know about those past posts, ask your good friend Peter McKillop, as he saved one post where I described it in intimate detail.
Jean Hebert doesn't recognize the limitations that organized chess is up against. For years he has called organizers "lazy" as if they are the root of the problem. This is why, Kerry, I asked you if you'd done any organizing. Because if you support Jean's opinions, then you too must feel organizers are lazy. And you would be dead wrong, but you would need to have done some organizing to realize that.
You say I shouldn't make it about what you've done or not done, and yet you bring up what I've done / not done for chess. Sorry, Kerry, you don't get to make the rules. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
You imply that because Jean is a dedicated player, he shouldn't have to stoop to trying to find sponsors. Well, in the chess ecosystem, because of built-in limitations as to what outside resources can be brought in, EVERYONE besides organizers (who have by far enough work on their plate already for their thankless task of putting events together) must work together to build up sponsorship. That includes players. That's just the nature of the beast in chess in North America.
And let's be fair to organizers: many of them actually DO try and obtain sponsorship. As you might imagine, it is tough slogging. Very tough!
I was saying all this 8 years ago, and time has proven me correct. That's why there still isn't, and probably never will be, a fully sponsored Canadian Closed. You can have all the respect you want for Jean Hebert, but he is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem. End of story.
And.... what is that about "academia"? I am not part of academia.
Only the rushing is heard...
Onward flies the bird.
Chess sponsorship is extremely difficult to find. What we need is a Sinquefield-style patron. Sid Belzberg put some money into chess a few years ago, but it wasn't a happy experience for him. The CFC should be taking the lead in fund-raising for national events, but has pretty much given up.
Can't say I blame them (or do I mean "us").
Last edited by John Coleman; Tuesday, 13th June, 2017, 11:13 AM.
Reason: typo (sorry, Sid)
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