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The ones who look ignorant are the Trump haters and bashers as the U.S. economy heads towards zero unemployment. The most interesting statistic is that if the election were held today that Trump would still win against Hillary.
Trump earns the bashing with his ridiculous actions; I was fairly neutral on Trump 4 years ago; the Trump Tower fiasco was enlightening. I now believe you to be incompetent based on your blind allegiance to Trump and several statements you have made on politics on this site. I don't seek to change your mind, it is what it is.
Zero unemployment is a meaningless concept. Both the US and Canada are close to what is deemed "full employment", but the quality of employment is down significantly in both countries. Employment numbers are lagging indicators, and the US economy began to pick up before Trump came into power. US job creation has been strong for numerous years now; if you display this as % unemployed, this is rather obvious. The idea that "zero unemployment" is coming is pointless, even if were approached, it's the quality of jobs that matters and how many people who dropped out of the picture re-enter. The US has declined in this manner since 2008 and is struggling to accept this new reality. No leader can immediately solve this, it's a long term systemic issue that might take 10+ more years to solve.
Last edited by Duncan Smith; Wednesday, 16th August, 2017, 09:00 PM.
Since you do not buy into the lying and name-calling, I try to read your posts continually.
I would like to offer an article on the technique of name-calling and lying that is being used currently by extreme leftists, including on this site. There are better ones out there, but the link is this:
The technique is based on a micro-aggression, which is essentially building upon nothing. This is a particular specialty of post-secondary students like Ben. But its been identified. People are starting to fight back.
I will always listen to a reasonable argument. But this lying and name-calling is where the alt-left loses it, and frequently follows up with violence, believing it excusable because of the micro-aggression. Ben ran with it really badly in the first Trump thread, believing his chosen micro-aggression would work. All the alt-left supported him (minority here) while everyone else did not. He lost a vote he set up to validate his technique and conclusion.
As a voice of reason from the left, you strike me as more of "the good in man" type. The quotations are used here as another example of how the leftist creates his lying micro-aggression technique. How dare I use the word "man". Micro-aggression! What about all the billion different genders there are?
Trump earns the bashing with his ridiculous actions; I was fairly neutral on Trump 4 years ago; the Trump Tower fiasco was enlightening. I now believe you to be incompetent based on your blind allegiance to Trump and several statements you have made on politics on this site. I don't seek to change your mind, it is what it is.
I was supporting Cruz right up until he lost to Trump. Cruz despite being the smartest man in the race would probably not be able to beat Hillary because they would have tarred him with the same brush that they used for the the Teflon Don Trump presidency. I am grateful to Trump because he is/was much better than the Hillary alternative which would have continued the disastrous Obama policies which only dragged America down at every opportunity.
I was supporting Cruz right up until he lost to Trump. Cruz despite being the smartest man in the race would probably not be able to beat Hillary because they would have tarred him with the same brush that they used for the the Teflon Don Trump presidency. I am grateful to Trump because he is/was much better than the Hillary alternative which would have continued the disastrous Obama policies which only dragged America down at every opportunity.
Exactly, and as much as the left hates Trump, they are going to equally hate the next republican presidential candidate. America is at war with itself and the division is close to right down the middle.
Exactly, and as much as the left hates Trump, they are going to equally hate the next republican presidential candidate. America is at war with itself and the division is close to right down the middle.
The left won't be happy until what is happening in Venezuela is happening here.
Those who are interested in US style politics and economics should move there. Then they can see the true reality of the current day US. There is so much irony when Canadians get on their soap box about the US; why are you living here ? "The left has already won here" is just off and meaningless to life in Canada. Maybe that's Ottawa or Windsor ? It's certainly not Toronto; this city is one of the most cutthroat capitalistic cities in NA.
Donald Trump really felt bad for Kate Steinle, who was killed by an illegal immigrant who had been deported five times...
But when it came to the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer in Charlottesville this past week, at the hands of an alt-right asshole who rammed a car into a crowd, Trump had a very different tune:
"So I only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides."
I wonder if that's because Heather Heyer was a left-leaning counterprotestor, working against the weekend's "Unite The Right" white supremacy rallies???
Only the rushing is heard...
Onward flies the bird.
Those who are interested in US style politics and economics should move there. Then they can see the true reality of the current day US. There is so much irony when Canadians get on their soap box about the US; why are you living here ? "The left has already won here" is just off and meaningless to life in Canada. Maybe that's Ottawa or Windsor ? It's certainly not Toronto; this city is one of the most cutthroat capitalistic cities in NA.
Personally I don't recall if I've wrote excessively about US politics myself... I often find it distasteful. I've certainly implied in this thread that I don't trust The Donald to have his finger on THE BUTTON, at the least. However, all that doesn't mean Canada cannot be (at least in theory) so much better than it is, without having to imitate the US even at its best, necessarily. Don't you find it a little ironic poster Ben is to live in the US, not so much because he likes it as it is, but to be a SJW in it, i.e. strive to overturn (some may say undermine) what the US currently is in some respects?
Regarding how the left affects everyday life in Canada after P.E.T., let's see... ever higher taxation, largely left wing bias in media, civil service, powerful unions, justice system and education, elements of our culture/constitution that seem rather socialist (e.g. see links I added to my last post)... as for Toronto, at least the voters there, ever tending to be Liberal (e.g. as 'informed' by The Toronto Red Star) keep voting in the socialist-in-all-but-name provincial Liberal governments we in Ontario have been cursed with for quite some years now.
Last edited by Kevin Pacey; Thursday, 17th August, 2017, 02:34 AM.
Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer
Those who are interested in US style politics and economics should move there. Then they can see the true reality of the current day US. There is so much irony when Canadians get on their soap box about the US; why are you living here ? "The left has already won here" is just off and meaningless to life in Canada. Maybe that's Ottawa or Windsor ? It's certainly not Toronto; this city is one of the most cutthroat capitalistic cities in NA.
What makes you think everyone here is still in Canada? I live in both countries and have for over twenty years. I do see the "true reality" of the US and i like very much what I see. I live in Toronto and Manhattan and i have no problem with "a cutthroat capitalistic city".
Thanks to idiotic policies of the US left in the last eight years forget about "cutthroat capitalism", we have to to worry about getting our throats cut period. Freeing up $150 billion dollars to the worlds largest state sponsor of terror that the very country that is at greatest risk vehemently protested is beyond stupidity. Freeing up large piles of Uranium for Putin in exchange for donations to your favorite charity ("your husband's of course!") is beyond disgusting. Did you know that most of that very same Uranium now comes from Kazakhstan and is being sold directly to Iran, for a handsome profit to Putin.A problem that will make NOKO look easy in a few short years from now.
Do you really think Americans enjoyed choosing between a candidate involved in all of the above and then some and a vulgar half senile windbag? This whole issue is not black and white. Anyone that thinks it is is a fool. By the way the one economic indicator that is not lagging are the markets, and that happens to be the one indicator that really counts towards a thriving capitalistic economy.
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Thursday, 17th August, 2017, 03:01 AM.
By the way the one economic indicator that is not lagging are the markets, and that happens to be the one indicator that really counts towards a thriving capitalistic economy.
^This is an astute opinion.
I only wonder how many 401Ks have been positively impacted by Trump's first few months in office. 401Ks represent about 50% of the American workforce. I would like to know that number. Is it 80 million people and their families? Perhaps 100 million? The number of folks & their families who enjoy the growth of their saving's plan must be rather impressive!
Personally speaking (and my friends too) we have seen a healthy growth in our market investments! I hope American folks are able to save a little bit more each and every month!
Who said that phrase, you know ... "The Economy, Stupid."?
Whoever it was, they were right!
*****
*It was James Carville ... Bill Clinton's campaign strategist.
Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 17th August, 2017, 03:41 AM.
Donald Trump really felt bad for Kate Steinle, who was killed by an illegal immigrant who had been deported five times...
But when it came to the death of 32-year-old Heather Heyer in Charlottesville this past week, at the hands of an alt-right asshole who rammed a car into a crowd, Trump had a very different tune:
"So I only tell you this, there are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was a horrible moment for our country. A horrible moment. But there are two sides."
I wonder if that's because Heather Heyer was a left-leaning counterprotestor, working against the weekend's "Unite The Right" white supremacy rallies???
Good post, Paul. Last I heard, Trump still had not called Heather Heyer's mother to extend condolences on behalf.of Americans (although Trump, in his usual totally self-absorbed manner, was pleased to note publicly that Heyer's mother had said some nice things about HIM on social media). Also, apparently no one from the White House attended Heyer's funeral. Nice.
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Personally I don't recall if I've wrote excessively about US politics myself... I often find it distasteful. I've certainly implied in this thread that I don't trust The Donald to have his finger on THE BUTTON, at the least. However, all that doesn't mean Canada cannot be (at least in theory) so much better than it is, without having to imitate the US even at its best, necessarily. Don't you find it a little ironic poster Ben is to live in the US, not so much because he likes it as it is, but to be a SJW in it, i.e. strive to overturn (some may say undermine) what the US currently is in some respects?
Regarding how the left affects everyday life in Canada after P.E.T., let's see... ever higher taxation, largely left wing bias in media, civil service, powerful unions, justice system and education, elements of our culture/constitution that seem rather socialist (e.g. see links I added to my last post)... as for Toronto, at least the voters there, ever tending to be Liberal (e.g. as 'informed' by The Toronto Red Star) keep voting in the socialist-in-all-but-name provincial Liberal governments we in Ontario have been cursed with for quite some years now.
Lets not forget giving Omar Khadr and his lawyers over 10 million dollars.
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