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Congratulations to Nikolay! The tournament should have been his. What a start! 6-0! and a win against GM Sambuev as Black. Deciding a Canadian Championship with speed games?! Those are the rules - but ouch!
I have absolutely no problem with blitz and rapid games deciding a championship. I might have preferred tiebreaks this time, or playoffs for 2015 - for personal suitability - but there is nothing more fair then proving your superiority over the board instead of the tiebreak numbers.
I am not a born-again-Christian..(hello Vlad, reading your posts in between rounds is a perfect recipe to feel better about my mistakes)..so please allow me to feel bitter and angry.
Here is the recreated position of the second, decisive blitz game. Just before, I messed up and pushed the wrong pawns, and after 1. ...h2 2.a7 white wins. Both opponents had seconds on the clock and a long day full of chess before, so mistakes were frequent. Game continued as in the notation until 3. ...d1=Q. The next moves did not happen, I put in a possible continuation for black - the computer confirms the position is objectively a draw, while with seconds on the clock (3 seconds increment) anything might have still happened, with black having practical winning chances.
Unfortunately, as it happened I promoted the 'd' pawn to an inverted rook, and after a heated discussion between the arbiters, spectators and me (absolutely shocked) - I had to continue the game with a rook on d1 instead of a queen.
- the blitz games were considered to be played under 'rapid' (or classical) rules, because they had 'adequate arbiter supervision. For one, this means that in a blitz game one illegal move leads to an immediate loss, while in a rapid (classical) game you get a warning first, and a loss only in case of a second offence.
- there were no extra queens provided. Both players were too involved in the chess to think about such things.. I would be very surprised if, lets say, at a World Cup tiebreak extra queens were not beside the board at all times. Surely, its also not the players job to think about such things, its the arbiters. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think this is unprofessional.
- with about 5 seconds on the clock (7 seconds after I made the move and pressed the clock) I was nervously looking for a queen in the pile of captured pieces and did not see it (neither did the spectators). My instinct was to grab a rook and promote an inverted rook and proclaim "queen" out loud, something quite normal in casual games but which is considered illegal under FIDE rules nowadays.
- the arbiters say I should have stopped the clock and asked for a queen.. I envy people whose composure is so great that with 5 seconds on their clock and looking for a queen on the table, their first instinct is to press the pause button.
Curiously, as I understand it, if I simply promoted a pawn without changing it and pressed the clock, it would be considered an illegal move. My opponent would get two minutes, and I would get my queen after all. Promoting to an inverted rook is considered a "touch move". I don't know if saying 'queen' out loud makes any difference rule wise.
The arbiters say they do not like the rule, but can not choose which rules they can like or dislike, they have to follow them. I am not sure how true that is. Just some cases that quickly come to my mind.
Tony van Roon-Werten Of course the guy should lose because his intent was to cheat, but I think technically he should win. The lady should have claimed a win, but she moved an opponent piece which is illegal and giving the nasty guy the right to claim a win.
At the dutch lightning chess championship, a referee gave a loss to my son who tried to be a smart ass by putting the kings next to each other. Opponent overlooked it, ( well, it doesn't happen that often normally) and my son claimed a win. The referee told him to go take a hike. He was not going to reward an illegal move with the intent to gain advantage. My son didn't see it that way and thought it was just a "chesstrick" like backrankmate or fork attack. (Now he understands, and I doubt he will do it again :) ) but I'm not sure a lot of referees would have the same guts.
This clip is a bit different since my son never tried to hide or lied about his action or intent, but in both cases, if the opponent had followed the rules it would have been a lot easier.
- Karpov-Kasparov 1984 gets stopped by the FIDE president at the time..was he following rules, common sense, or just some shady politics?..no matter.
The point is there are rules..and then there are other rules. I read some interview by Geurt Gijssen (can't find a link at the moment) where he said that the most important thing for arbiters is to be flexible, as each case is unique. Arbiters should preserve the spirit of the chess game. Being told that Le Siege had a similar case in some Montreal Open and the ruling in that case was the same does not make me feel better.
I am not sure what can be done now, the next day after the playoffs. Appeal how...what...to whom?...Mayhaps some chesstalkers are more knowledgeable than me. I was shocked yesterday and too involved with the chess to fight any battles outside of the board. Maybe my story will at least serve as a drive for a change in some of those pesky FIDE rules.
Rapid games and chess. Blitz games are also chess. Even Armageddon games are chess too. I think I deserved that one last chance at an Armageddon game to prove my chess chess superiority (or be proven the opposite). It seems to me, the spectator support I got indicates I am not alone in thinking so.
I would like to thank the organizes for the tournament, as I did not have a chance to do so yesterday. I would like to thank Bator for a very entertaining playoff match. None of this is his fault.
That is the correct ruling according to the arbiter's manual / FIDE laws of chess, although it definitely seems like an oversight that no additional queens were immediately available during what I assume was the only game occurring. The rule is pretty clear:
"When a player places an inverted (upside‐down) Rook in the promotion square and continues the game, the piece is considered as a Rook, even if he names it as a “Queen” or any other piece. To put an inverted Rook on the promotion square is not considered as an illegal move. The Arbiter has to intervene and put the Rook in its correct position on the square and he may penalize the player according to the Article 12.9."
We've got an on-site room left if you want to play the Canadian Open. Free accommodation and... every board guaranteed to have extra queens!
If the google translation is correct..a few things I find wrong about this post.
- I had 7 seconds after making the move, which means I had 4 seconds right before pressing the clock - not 15 seconds as suggested. Supposedly, there is a video recording of the game.
- If I saw the queen, I would have promoted a queen. I did not see it, neither did the spectators. I did not choose the rook because it was the closest black piece I saw.
- I congratulated my opponent in Russian after the game. I don't remember if I said that I did not play well enough to win (I doubt it..) and I did complain, though quite lightly..I was quite shocked and just wanted to disappear as fast as possible after this embarrassment to be alone. Thats my introvert nature. I don't think that protesting or complaining can be considered bad sportsmanship.
- the queens were exchanged about 15-20 moves before the incident
- the queens were exchanged about 15-20 moves before the incident
In this case I'm wondering who took the original queens from the table.
Being such an important game the arbiter should be watching it and make sure the players have spare queens available if necessary. It is very clear that the arbiter dropped the ball here. I'm not saying that the ruling was wrong or that Nikolay did the correct thing promoting to an upside-down rook. Under time pressure any top player can make mistake.
The standard set does not include a spare queen or other piece as I read in this FIDE document: "Standards of Chess Equipment and tournament venue for FIDE Tournaments" http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/St...ment_venue.pdf
Though the general practice is to have spare queens on the table. However placing a queen during the game might considered a help to a player to what promote, even in general a promotion to a queen happens 99.99999%.
Though this rule would have saved the day: "6.11.2 A player may stop the chessclock only in order to seek the arbiter’s assistance, for example when promotion has taken place and the piece required is not available." It's pity that you've learned it hard way :/
There was a joke that a blitz player threw opponents queen far far away. Though it was in days when a reversed rook was good for queen too. The story did not tell what happened in that game. :)
Back in the 70s in Toronto, Montreal master Leo Williams had a P marching down the board...he found his Q in the pile of captured pieces and placed it in front of him. His opponent - GM Walter Browne - tossed the Q across the room. :-)
It was the arbiters responsibility to have the queens available if needed. Since they were not there the arbiter had no business enforcing the rule that the pawn is promoted to a rook. He should have stopped the clock and it should have been Nicholas's prerogative as to which piece the pawn is promoted to. If Bator was withholding or hiding the queen he should forfeit the game.
Not a wonder you didn't see the queen, Bator had it in his hand
What an unholy mess! Surely if the player announces the queen promotion, but can't find the queen because his opponent is "hiding" it, there's a forfeit here?
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