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  • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

    In top international chess competitions top players also represent their country, as the flag is right there, under their name. How they behave reflects on the country as well. This World Cup not being a tournament in a sunny resort, I expect players to show respect to their hosts, FIDE, their opponents, and their country.
    Sorry, but I can not approve Anton's behavior. The way he dressed not only violated the dress code, but also showed some disregard to all of the above. If all the others can dress appropriately, why he can not? There are dress codes in other sports, most notably in tennis. Nobody breaks them without risking heavy fines and exclusion from tournaments.
    If Zurab also broke the code of conduct he should be fined. His language and attitude are unacceptable.

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    • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

      Originally posted by Laurentiu Grigorescu View Post
      In top international chess competitions top players also represent their country, as the flag is right there, under their name. How they behave reflects on the country as well. This World Cup not being a tournament in a sunny resort, I expect players to show respect to their hosts, FIDE, their opponents, and their country.
      Sorry, but I can not approve Anton's behavior. The way he dressed not only violated the dress code, but also showed some disregard to all of the above. If all the others can dress appropriately, why he can not? There are dress codes in other sports, most notably in tennis. Nobody breaks them without risking heavy fines and exclusion from tournaments.
      If Zurab also broke the code of conduct he should be fined. His language and attitude are unacceptable.
      As Anton said he has dressed like this in the past as well as in previous rounds and it was never brought up as an issue. if you look at pictures of the match with Anand, Anand was dressed in a very casual "resort like" tshirt. So Anton's dress style was not different then many of the other participants in the hall. Sorry but you are talking nonsense.
      Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 9th September, 2017, 02:05 PM.

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      • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

        Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
        One story that's going around is that Anton didn't abide by the dress code.
        I am not a fashionista by any stretch but the dress code specifically allows bermuda shorts. By my understanding of fashion, that is what he was wearing.

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        • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

          Originally posted by Laurentiu Grigorescu View Post
          In top international chess competitions top players also represent their country, as the flag is right there, under their name. How they behave reflects on the country as well. This World Cup not being a tournament in a sunny resort, I expect players to show respect to their hosts, FIDE, their opponents, and their country.
          Sorry, but I can not approve Anton's behavior. The way he dressed not only violated the dress code, but also showed some disregard to all of the above. If all the others can dress appropriately, why he can not? There are dress codes in other sports, most notably in tennis. Nobody breaks them without risking heavy fines and exclusion from tournaments.
          If Zurab also broke the code of conduct he should be fined. His language and attitude are unacceptable.
          The dress code specifically allows bermuda shorts so that is not the issue. What is shocking is the display of bigotry and prejudice which appears to be tolerated by FIDE. Clearly this was intended to upset Anton's composure before an important game.

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          • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermuda_shorts

            https://www.walmart.com/c/kp/bermuda-shorts

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            • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

              Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
              If it's true that Anton has already left for home then it's too late to have him re-instated, but, I agree that Hal should request that FIDE review the arbiter's decision for correctness and appropriateness of timing. I'd be surprised if anything significant happens. Look at the recent Sambuev - Noritsyn mess. The only member of the NAC who faulted Sambuev for a violation of the FIDE law (11.5??) regarding disturbing your opponent was the non-IA, Ilya Bluvshtein. The other NAC members, all IAs, never even bothered to explain why 11.5 should not apply. Maybe arbiters in general need to remember that they exist to serve the interests of good and fair chess; they're not gods.
              Hi Peter,

              The FIDE Rep also personally voted against me on the appeal to the executive.. Unfortunately, Kovalyov has no case here. FIDE is disgusting, Azmaiparashvili is disgusting (that's the guy making a takeback and getting away with it...buying rating points..etc, etc), the arbiter that decides to bother a player right before the game is disgusting too. They have many arbiter's there, and they had no problem with Kovalyov's dress code until now.

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              • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                I am all in favour of improving the dress code among top players. But I do not believe that is the real issue. The chief arbiter "arbitrarily" invoked the code to exclude Anton's shorts and dismissed out of hand the fact that he had worn them in previous rounds with explicit or at least tacit approval of the arbiters. He did so 15 minutes before a critical game in the third round of the World Cup. That is unacceptable.
                Worse is the behaviour of the organizer and chair of the appeals committee, Azmaiparashvili, who, according to Anton, behaved in an outrageous manner, replete with racial epithets. The CFC through its rep should make a very formal protest and push it hard. Over to you, Vlad and Hal.

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                • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                  I know very well what I am talking. The fact he dressed like that in previous rounds is not an excuse. It reflects bad on the lenient attitude of the arbiters, who should have called it earlier. Let's not confuse "casual" with "I do not care". Form Carlsen to Kramnik to Hou, Aronian, and Gelfand, they all dressed according to circumstances.
                  We as chess community want better rewards from sponsors, but when it comes to attitude, too quickly defend the "I do not care".

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                    After reading the chessbase article -I am even moreso on Kovalyov's side. ..and regardless if he wants to appeal/protest - CFC has a good reason to burn some more 'political capital with FIDE' and demand Azmaiparashvili's resignation as ECU President/whatever other posts this crook occupies.

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                    • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                      Originally posted by Laurentiu Grigorescu View Post
                      I know very well what I am talking. The fact he dressed like that in previous rounds is not an excuse. It reflects bad on the lenient attitude of the arbiters, who should have called it earlier. Let's not confuse "casual" with "I do not care". Form Carlsen to Kramnik to Hou, Aronian, and Gelfand, they all dressed according to circumstances.
                      We as chess community want better rewards from sponsors, but when it comes to attitude, too quickly defend the "I do not care".
                      No, as I said other players such as Anand were just as casual in their attire.

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                      • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                        [QUOTE=Sid Belzberg;117382]"Go Anton"???? What the f*ck are you talking about?...he left the venue and is on his way home! You should be proud of your idiotic support of this group of thugs during the 2014 FIDE elections.

                        Seriously??
                        I supported no such group, and 2. "Go Anton!" is modern-day
                        colloquialism of support, you will find all over social media!

                        You need to get out more.....

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                        • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                          Originally posted by Gordon Ritchie View Post
                          I am all in favour of improving the dress code among top players. But I do not believe that is the real issue. The chief arbiter "arbitrarily" invoked the code to exclude Anton's shorts and dismissed out of hand the fact that he had worn them in previous rounds with explicit or at least tacit approval of the arbiters. He did so 15 minutes before a critical game in the third round of the World Cup. That is unacceptable.
                          Worse is the behaviour of the organizer and chair of the appeals committee, Azmaiparashvili, who, according to Anton, behaved in an outrageous manner, replete with racial epithets. The CFC through its rep should make a very formal protest and push it hard. Over to you, Vlad and Hal.
                          We have made a protest. Since the Olympiad is in the same country with the same organizers we need to have some discussions about a very public boycott if the protest does not yield a positive result.

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                          • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                            [QUOTE=Francis Rodriguez;117395]
                            Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                            "Go Anton"???? What the f*ck are you talking about?...he left the venue and is on his way home! You should be proud of your idiotic support of this group of thugs during the 2014 FIDE elections.

                            Seriously??
                            I supported no such group, and 2. "Go Anton!" is modern-day
                            colloquialism of support, you will find all over social media!

                            You need to get out more.....
                            Oh, I geddit......you think I'm part 'n parcel of the CFC, lol.
                            Nothing could be further from the truth!

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                            • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                              The Chess World Cup 2017

                              September 9, 2017

                              1/32 Finals, Round Three
                              Results


                              1. Carlsen-Bu Xiangzhi 0-1
                              2. Onischuk-Svidler 0.5-0.5
                              3. Lenderman-MVL 0.5-0.5
                              4. Grischuk-Navara 0.5-0.5
                              5. Ivanchuk-Kramnik 0.5-0.5
                              6. Giri-Sethuraman 0.5-0.5
                              7. Aronian-Matlakov 1-0
                              8. Artemiev-Dubov 0.5-0.5
                              9. Vallejo Pons-So 0-1
                              10. Nepomniachtchi-Jobava 0.5-0.5
                              11. Nakamura-Fedoseev 0.5-0.5
                              12. Rodshtein-Kovalyov 1-0
                              13. Caruana-Najer 0.5-0.5
                              14. Li Chao-Rapport 0.5-0.5
                              15. Wang Hao-Kuzubov 0.5-0.5
                              16. Ding Liren-Vidit 0.5-0.5

                              Games from 1/32 Finals

                              FIDE World Cup 2017
                              Round 3.1, Sept. 9
                              Carlsen, Magnus – Bu, Xiangzhi
                              C55 Two Knights Defence

                              1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 Nc6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.O-O O-O 6.Bb3 d6 7.c3 Be6 8.Re1 Qd7 9.Nbd2 Rab8 10.Bc2 d5 11.h3 h6 12.exd5 Nxd5 13.Nxe5 Nxe5 14.Rxe5 Bd6 15.Re1 Bxh3 16.gxh3 Qxh3 17.Nf1 Rbe8 18.d4 f5 19.Bb3 c6 20.f4 Kh7 21.Bxd5 cxd5 22.Re3 Rxe3 23.Bxe3 g5 24.Kf2 gxf4 25.Qf3 fxe3+ 26.Nxe3 Qh2+ 27.Kf1 Rg8 28.Qxf5+ Rg6 29.Ke1 h5 30.Kd1 Kh6 31.Nc2 h4 32.Ne1 h3 33.Nf3 Qg2 34.Ne1 Qg4+ 35.Qxg4 Rxg4 36.Nf3 Rg1+ 0-1

                              Round 3.1, Sept. 9
                              Vallejo Pons, Francisco – So, Wesley
                              B12 Caro-Kann, Advance variation

                              1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.g4 Be4 5.f3 Bg6 6.h4 h5 7.e6 Qd6 8.exf7+ Bxf7 9.Be3 hxg4 10.fxg4 Nf6 11.Nc3 Qe6 12.Kd2 Nxg4 13.Bg5 Nf2 14.Qf3 Nxh1 15.Qxh1 Qd6 16.Bh3 e6 17.Rf1 Be7 18.Bf4 Qb4 19.Ne2 Nd7 20.a3 Qxb2 21.Rb1 Qxa3 22.Rxb7 Qa6 23.Qb1 Rxh4 24.Bf1 Rxf4 25.Nxf4 Qa5 26.Qe1 Bg5 27.Qg3 Bh6 28.Bd3 O-O-O 29.Rb3 e5 30.dxe5 d4 0-1

                              Round 3.1, Sept. 9
                              Aronian, Levon – Matlakov, Maxim
                              A28 English, Four Knights, Romanishin variation

                              1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.e3 Bb4 5.Qc2 Bxc3 6.bxc3 O-O 7.d3 d6 8.Be2 Re8 9.e4 Ne7 10.Nh4 Ng6 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.O-O c6 13.f4 b5 14.cxb5 cxb5 15.h3 Qb6+ 16.Kh2 Be6 17.a4 a6 18.Qb2 Nd7 19.Rb1 Rab8 20.axb5 axb5 21.Rf3 f6 22.f5 gxf5 23.exf5 Bd5 24.Rg3 Re7 25.Bh5 e4 26.d4 Bc4 27.Bf4 Ra8 28.Ra1 Rd8 29.Ra3 Nf8 30.Qa1 Bf7 31.Ra6 Qc7 32.Be2 Bc4 33.Bxc4+ Qxc4 34.Rxd6 Nd7 35.Qa7 Kf7 36.Qb7 Ke8 37.Re6 Rxe6 38.fxe6 Qxe6 39.Rxg7 e3 40.Qf3 1-0

                              Matthew Sadler - Phenomenal win from Aronian against Matlakov. A modern classic Lovely play on both wings. Feels like he's really coming into form

                              Round 3.1, Sept. 9
                              Wang Hao – Kuzubov, Yurij
                              C24 Bishop’s Opening, Berlin Defence

                              1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 c6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.O-O d6 6.c3 O-O 7.Bb3 Nbd7 8.Nbd2 d5 9.exd5 cxd5 10.Re1 Bd6 11.Nf1 h6 12.Ng3 Re8 13.d4 e4 14.Nh4 Nf8 15.Nhf5 Bc7 16.Be3 Ng6 17.f3 Bxf5 18.Nxf5 Qd7 19.Ng3 Bxg3 20.hxg3 Re7 21.Qd2 Rae8 22.Bf2 h5 23.Bc2 Re6 24.Rad1 Ne7 25.Qf4 Qb5 26.Bb3 a5 27.Qg5 a4 28.c4 Qc6 29.cxd5 Nexd5 30.Bxd5 Qxd5 31.Qxd5 Nxd5 32.fxe4 Rxe4 33.Rxe4 Rxe4 34.Kf1 Re6 35.Rc1 Rb6 36.Rc5 Nf6 37.Rc2 Rb5 38.Ke2 Kf8 39.Kd3 Ke7 40.Kc4 Rf5 41.Kb4 b5 42.Ka5 Kd7 43.Be1 Ne4 44.Bb4 Nd6 45.b3 axb3 46.axb3 Rg5 47.Bxd6 Kxd6 48.Rc3 Rd5 49.Rd3 f5 50.b4 g5 51.Kb6 f4 52.gxf4 gxf4 53.Rf3 Rf5 54.Rc3 h4 55.Rc6+ Kd5 56.Rc5+ Ke4 57.Rxf5 Kxf5 58.d5 h3 59.gxh3 f3 60.d6 Ke6 61.Kc7 f2 62.d7 f1=Q 63.d8=Q Qc4+ 64.Kb6 Qxb4 65.Qe8+ Kf6 66.Qxb5 Qxb5+ 67.Kxb5 Kg5 1/2-1/2

                              Round 3.1, Sept. 9
                              Nakamura, Hikaru – Fedoseev, Vladimir
                              A13 English, Neo-Catalan

                              1.c4 e6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.g3 d5 4.Bg2 d4 5.O-O c5 6.e3 Nc6 7.d3 Bd6 8.exd4 cxd4 9.a3 a5 10.Bg5 h6 11.Bxf6 Qxf6 12.Nbd2 Qe7 13.Ne4 Bc7 14.b4 axb4 15.axb4 Rxa1 16.Qxa1 Qxb4 17.Rb1 Qe7 18.Nxd4 Nxd4 19.Qxd4 O-O 20.Nc3 Rd8 21.Qe3 Ba5 22.Nb5 b6 23.d4 Ba6 24.d5 Qf6 25.dxe6 Qxe6 26.Bd5 Qxe3 27.fxe3 Bxb5 28.Rxb5 h5 29.Kf2 g6 30.e4 1/2-1/2

                              Round 3.1, Sept. 9
                              Grischuk, Alexander – Navara, David
                              D27 QGA, Classical

                              1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 dxc4 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.O-O a6 7.dxc5 Qxd1 8.Rxd1 Bxc5 9.Be2 Nbd7 10.Nfd2 b6 11.Nb3 Be7 12.f3 Nc5 13.Nd4 Bb7 14.e4 O-O 15.Be3 b5 16.Nc3 g6 17.Rac1 e5 18.Nc2 Rfd8 19.Rxd8+ Rxd8 20.Rd1 Rc8 21.Rd2 Kg7 22.Kf1 b4 23.Nd1 a5 24.b3 a4 25.Bxc5 axb3 26.axb3 Bxc5 27.Nb2 Be7 28.Bc4 Rb8 29.Nd3 Nd7 30.Ncxb4 Nb6 31.Bb5 Nc8 32.Bc6 Bxb4 33.Nxb4 Ne7 34.Bxb7 Rxb7 35.Nd3 Rxb3 36.Nxe5 Rb5 37.Nc4 Rc5 38.Rc2 f5 39.Kf2 Kf6 40.Ke3 Nc6 41.Na3 Rxc2 42.Nxc2 Ne5 43.Kd4 Ke6 44.h4 fxe4 45.fxe4 g5 46.hxg5 Nf7 47.Ke3 Nxg5 48.Nd4+ Kf6 49.Kf4 h6 50.e5+ Kg6 51.Nf3 Ne6+ 52.Ke4 Nc7 53.Kf4 Nd5+ 54.Ke4 Nc7 55.Ne1 Ne6 56.Kd5 Nf4+ 57.Kd6 h5 58.e6 Nxe6 59.Kxe6 Kg5 60.Ke5 Kg4 61.Nd3 h4 62.Nf4 Kg5 63.Nd3 Kg4 64.Ke4 Kg3 65.Nf4 Kg4 66.Ke5 Kg5 67.Ke4 Kg4 68.Ng6 h3 69.Ne5+ Kg3 70.gxh3 Kxh3 1/2-1/2

                              In a post-game interview Wesley So said that the opponent in his previous match, Matthias Bluebaum, is a young and improving player and that match proved to be really, really tough because, first of all, he was extremely well-prepared – in the opening for instance, very deeply in the French Defence and the Queen’s Gambit in particular. It was very hard for Wesley to crack through these openings, and, in fact, he didn’t, with both colours. When they reached the ten-minute games Matthias still got good positions out of the opening but didn’t have enough time once the position was a bit murky and in the end, it was a great idea to play the Exchange French because I could interfere with his prep.

                              “It was shocking to see Magnus lose today since he had the white pieces and at the first he could have drawn but then he decided to play for a win and started to use up time and then Bu found some really good moves and then, suddenly, White was losing. A very shocking game.”
                              Last edited by Wayne Komer; Sunday, 10th September, 2017, 09:38 AM.

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                              • Re: The Chess World Cup 2017

                                [QUOTE=Francis Rodriguez;117397]
                                Originally posted by Francis Rodriguez View Post

                                Oh, I geddit......you think I'm part 'n parcel of the CFC, lol.
                                Nothing could be further from the truth!
                                Francis, I watched you badger Paul Hoffman(Kasparov's right hand man) on twitter for weeks during the 2014 FIDE election.

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