Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

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  • #61
    Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

    This is a ridiculous idea. I have a cousin who was raised in Canada his whole life, born to Canadian parents, but his actual birth happened in New Zealand. as my aunt and uncle were there briefly at the time of his birth. By your suggestion he would be unable to compete in a Canadian Championship.

    There's a ready-made standard for who should be able to compete in a Canadian Championship: Canadian citizens. If it's good enough for the Government of Canada, it should be good enough for the Chess Federation of Canada.

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    • #62
      Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

      Well I guess you forgot that the Europeans robbed the natives, took their lands and put them on reservations. You should wake up to reality.
      Mackenzie King was the first Canadian Citizen he created that . Before that there were no real Canadians except Indians. So unless you are born in Canada you are not a Canadian you are a Canadian Citizen. So you are saying that any Canadian Citizen is a Canadian. So why did a Muslim born Woman refuse to remove her face covering . Is she a Canadian or a Muslim? She wanted to be a Canadian But I wear no face covering. However If I was a woman I wanted to work in a Muslim country I'd have to wear their garb. I worked for a woman and she worked in Iran as a nurse, If she did not wear the garb she could not work but she was never able to apply for Iran citizenship.
      Citzenship is a term not a birth origin.

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      • #63
        Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

        John, John. Have a nice cup of tea, take your medication, and lie down for a while.

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        • #64
          Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

          Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
          John, John. Have a nice cup of tea, take your medication, and lie down for a while.
          John you need to realize that we have lost our country it ain't Canada anymore. I support the Canadian Indians not the Immigrants.

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          • #65
            Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

            As loath as I am to dive into this, I'll bite. Islam is a religion, not a nationality. There can be Islamic Canadians just as there can be Christian Canadians, Jewish Canadians, Buddhist Canadians, Hindu Canadians, and Canadians of no religious position at all. For some religions, their beliefs include traditional garments, and these can be very important to these people, as aspects of other religions are important to their practitioners. As Canada is a nation which has religious freedom as one of its building blocks, the religious choices of each resident of Canada should be respected, unless they would specifically bring harm to anyone. A woman choosing to wear the traditional garment of her religion has no bearing on whether she is Canadian or not.

            The mention of how Iran determines its citizenship shouldn't have any bearing on what constitutes a Canadian or not either. We don't live in Iran, we live in Canada. They are two very different countries. For one thing, Iran has a state religion, while Canada is a secular nation. That in itself explains the difference between how people are expected to comport themselves in public in Iran and Canada.

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            • #66
              Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

              Originally posted by John Torrie View Post
              To do “the right thing” conscience sacrifices itself and duty sacrifices others. A little forethought saves everyone, but forethought is a rarity.
              Despite the decision against Mr. Noritsyn, which was expected, there is much in the rulings that is favorable to his case.
              If FIDE sets the rules is it responsible for the conditions of the contest? If FIDE claims no responsibility why do their rules apply? It appears they influenced the Appeals Committee.
              In the meanwhile if a new FIDE rule states that ‘players are not to hold onto pieces’ that would add strength to Mr. Noritsyn’s cause if he wanted to pursue the matter civilly. Why pick on a little organization like the CFC when FIDE is the bigger fish?

              The real truth of this came out earlier, from the CFC President himself: his personal "political capital" with FIDE was on the line. Even if he said "the CFC's political capital was on the line", one needn't be a rocket scientist to realize it all goes directly to the President. The arbiters were told by Vlad that they had to make a decision quickly, for "expediency". Who knows what else they were told? Perhaps that they would be a "laughingstock" if they allowed the appeal and ruled in Nikolay's favor, as Vlad posted here?

              In chess as in the Antarctica, things change very very slowly. But hey, the Larsen C ice shelf, the size of Delaware, just broke away from the Antarctica!

              Delaware just happens to be the state of registry of my company, that will ultimately upset the FIDE applecart and open new vistas for chessplayers and organizers around the world who can take off their blinders and see beyond standard chess. Coincidence?
              Only the rushing is heard...
              Onward flies the bird.

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              • #67
                Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                Originally posted by John Brown View Post
                John you need to realize that we have lost our country it ain't Canada anymore. I support the Canadian Indians not the Immigrants.
                OMG. Is this 2017 or 1217? some sort of Dark Ages.

                Canada has been built through the tremendous contribution of many millions of immigrants - from England, Scotland, Ireland, Germany, Japan, Vietnam, China (who the hell do you think built the railway?) the French etc.

                By "immigrants" it seems very clear you are implying a specific limited subset of immigrants (I won't bother speculating the exact subset, but your veiled references to "face coverings" seems to be a gigantic hint.
                If that is where you are going with this you stop right now.

                There are real Canadians and they are NOT to be divided somehow into "real" and "virtual" Canadians in some arbitrary and bigoted fashion.
                ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                • #68
                  Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                  Originally posted by John Brown View Post
                  John you need to realize that we have lost our country it ain't Canada anymore. I support the Canadian Indians not the Immigrants.
                  I see what you mean, John. I've been here only 51 years, and my wife has been here only 54 years. Newcomers, aren't we?

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                  • #69
                    Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                    The nice thing about chess is that people of all races, creeds, religions, sexes and ages can get together and compete on an equal basis. The colour of your skin or what you wear do not determine your chess strength. Can't we all just get along?

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                    • #70
                      Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                      Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                      The nice thing about chess is that people of all races, creeds, religions, sexes and ages can get together and compete on an equal basis. The colour of your skin or what you wear do not determine your chess strength. Can't we all just get along?

                      What a question from someone who has an ignore list!

                      Maybe when you can apologize for and take back the hate you spewed onto all atheists and leftists lately. Maybe when you can set an example by "just getting along" with Ben Daswani.

                      Speaking of which, I see Donald Trump Jr. has hired a specialist lawyer to get him out of the mess he's in. What you say about that, Drkulec? After you decried Ben Daswani as someone who's just trying to get criminals off the hook using legalities......
                      Only the rushing is heard...
                      Onward flies the bird.

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                      • #71
                        Re : Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                        Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
                        John, John. Have a nice cup of tea, take your medication, and lie down for a while.
                        Why? There is no medication to cure racism.

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                        • #72
                          Re: Re : Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                          http://nypost.com/2017/06/25/why-ber...eeds-a-lawyer/

                          "Don’t make too much of the news that Sen. Bernie Sanders and his wife, Jill, have lawyered up: It’s just what you have to do when you’re facing an FBI investigation.

                          That is, retaining private counsel is obligatory even if you truly have done absolutely nothing wrong. ..."
                          "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                          • #73
                            Re: Re : Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                            Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
                            http://nypost.com/2017/06/25/why-ber...eeds-a-lawyer/

                            "Don’t make too much of the news that Sen. Bernie Sanders and his wife, Jill, have lawyered up: It’s just what you have to do when you’re facing an FBI investigation.

                            That is, retaining private counsel is obligatory even if you truly have done absolutely nothing wrong. ..."
                            His wife's name is Jane Sanders. This whole story is nothing more than a pathetic smear campaign against Sanders. Isn't the New York Post somewhat sympathetic to Trump? Anyway, if they can't even get her name correct.

                            They did do another story: Donald Trump Jr. is an idiot. Actually I think the attempt was to paint Trump as just stupid, rather than corrupt.
                            The best quote from this article is: "Don Jr. is why Nigerian email scammers keep trying their luck."

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                            • #74
                              Re: Re : Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                              Are you implying that media is biased and inaccurate? I am shocked.

                              My point is that anyone hiring a lawyer is smart to do so whether the accusations against them have merit or not.


                              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                              His wife's name is Jane Sanders. This whole story is nothing more than a pathetic smear campaign against Sanders. Isn't the New York Post somewhat sympathetic to Trump? Anyway, if they can't even get her name correct.

                              They did do another story: Donald Trump Jr. is an idiot. Actually I think the attempt was to paint Trump as just stupid, rather than corrupt.
                              The best quote from this article is: "Don Jr. is why Nigerian email scammers keep trying their luck."
                              "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                              • #75
                                Re: Resolution of appeal to NAC on the matter of Canadian Closed playoff

                                A noble gesture that reminds me of Anderssen and Morphy playing for 'honor'. Essentially players would be taking the "governance" of chess into their own hands. If such a contest ever happens I'd go the additional step (aside from dispensing with rating fees) and have it arbiter free. Probably won't happen. Here's a grand idea though: a Canadian Champions Championship. Everyone who is presently a Canadian Champion having a go at it. Sponsorship may be easier to attain for such a contest.

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