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Makro's response is disappointingly predictable. The key sentence is the one that claims Zarub has brought $14 million in fundraising to FIDE while later proclaiming that does not mean he is not accountable. And pigs can fly.
Makro's response does not even acknowledge the bad behaviour of Zarub. Totally bias in favour of Zarub and lays all the blame on Anton.
Totally unacceptable. More protesting required.
Let's ban Zarub, Kirsan, and Makro from all CFC events. Symbolic action of course, but WTF, let's do it anyway.
Last edited by Bob Gillanders; Friday, 15th September, 2017, 10:08 AM.
Makro's response does not even acknowledge the bad behaviour of Zarub. Totally bias in favour of Zarub and lays all the blame on Anton.
Totally unacceptable. More protesting required.
Let's ban Zarub, Kirsan, and Makro from all CFC events. Symbolic action of course, but WTF, let's do it anyway.
Bob, this will not help our case. Please refrain from such comments. I, Hal and the members of the Directors get to make the incendiary comments.
Bob, this will not help our case. Please refrain from such comments. I, Hal and the members of the Directors get to make the incendiary comments.
Do you think those FIDE cretins read Chesstalk? Or even care what is posted here or anywhere about them? They are completely incompetent and merely lining their pockets (think FIFA for a role model). I think Hal's letter was on point; what is required now is a more specific letter pointing out the bullshit in their response. In any case, all this hand waving and bluster may prove worthless because it is FIDE and they think they know what they are doing... and worse, they believe no one else knows anything.
The CFC should insist on:
- an apology from Z.A. and FIDE,
- payment to Anton for his performance,
- refund of any extraordinary expenses from changing travel arrangements
- possibly pursue further redress via whatever applicable court oversees FIDE (Court of Sport Arbitration?) [ http://www.tas-cas.org/en/index.html ]
Do you think those FIDE cretins read Chesstalk? Or even care what is posted here or anywhere about them? They are completely incompetent and merely lining their pockets (think FIFA for a role model). I think Hal's letter was on point; what is required now is a more specific letter pointing out the bullshit in their response. In any case, all this hand waving and bluster may prove worthless because it is FIDE and they think they know what they are doing... and worse, they believe no one else knows anything.
The CFC should insist on:
- an apology from Z.A. and FIDE,
- payment to Anton for his performance,
- refund of any extraordinary expenses from changing travel arrangements
- possibly pursue further redress via whatever applicable court oversees FIDE (Court of Sport Arbitration?) [ http://www.tas-cas.org/en/index.html ]
You are absolutely right. Those FIDE guys don't care what the chess world people say or think or have their opinions. They do and act in whatever ways they want etc.
Do you think those FIDE cretins read Chesstalk? Or even care what is posted here or anywhere about them?
I do not have to think about whether they read chesstalk. I have discussed chesstalk posts with one or two of them so yes they can have an effect and my impression is that they do care. I am willing to go to the mattresses* on this matter but as president I can expect and require that we avoid communications by the CFC which do not exactly reflect our own intentions. Insulting the judges in any matter is not the right strategy if you are hoping to get the outcome which you desire.
Dear Vlad, I respectfully disagree. Regardless of the past politics, which is now blood under the bridge, Anton was undermined by a person i witnessed in 2004 as unsavory. It reminds me somewhat of one of the times during the 2004 Olympiad during one of the times our team was on the stage, playing against a particular team, when their captain and "assistants" were standing behind our players and clearly deliberately attempting to interfere. I complained to the arbiters, and, luckily I found one who wasn't corruptible, who joined me in physically blocking these instigators. I so wish i was at the World Cup as an "assistant" to stand in between once more.
I applaud any public or private outrage over this. Unfortunately, given the state of FIDE corruption, there is no chance of recourse and certainly no remedy for Anton. Since we live in a free state, the least, and perhaps the most we can do, is to exercise our right to free speech and condemn the instigators. Perhaps one day with sufficient public outcry such nonsense and its instigators will be thrown out, with the full historical context they deserve.
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