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FIDE World Rapid and Blitz Ch in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Now, Black is in check, but instead of moving his king, Black plays Ne3+. Magnus should have stopped the clock and called the arbiter but instead, he played Kd3, after which Inarkiev called over the arbiter and because Magnus had played an illegal move, he forfeited the game! Supposedly Inarkiev gave an interview after in which he was very happy that he had beaten the WC.
I'm glad things turned out OK, but this is instructive. Even the World Champion can get something as basic as the right way to manage things when an opponent makes an illegal move wrong.
From my own, recent tournament experience... I was fighting for a draw in a losing endgame with only the increment remaining. My opponent made an illegal move, so I stopped the clock and asked for the TD. The TD ruled and I was awarded a couple of minutes extra time. And that was just enough to cinch the draw.
Even in blitz chess, under time pressure, we should all be clear-headed enough to catch an illegal move, pause the clock, get the TD, etc..
There are a wide variety of (digital) clocks in use these days. Players should, at a minimum, know how to pause the clock they are using if they have to. And be ready to do so if need be.
Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.
- can someone explain what happened in Carlsen-Inarkiev game, cause I couldn't follow it live
- Carlsen gave check, but Inarkiev responded with check (illegal move, not counter-check)
- inarkiev made an illegal move and checked when he was in check
- magnus didn’t see and moved king and inarkiev claimed win
- Inarkiev PLAYED AN ILLEGAL MOVE
- which was wrong but arbiter believed him
- then a lot of drama before they corrected the result
- Carlsen moved the king from check, and Ernesto called referee
- The arbiters wanted to start the game again from this position and Inarkiev refused to do it
- dirty cheater
- All chess players and fans will NEVER forget it
- Carlsen losing?
- this Russian episode from Round 1 still affects him.
- White has a knight but black has the clock
- Who is bortnyk?
- bortnyk is bortnyk?
- bortnyk is a master of blitz
- he has a brother
- also good at blitz
- bortnyk is bortvynnyk’s grandson
- nulle, c’est une victoire a la Pyrrhus pour Magnus
(WK - Olexandr Bortnyk is a Ukrainian chess Grandmaster. As of September 2016, he is the World #15 in FIDE blitz chess ratings. He is 21 years old)
the comment on youtube should right. I think the blitz championship is going with the Competition rues (though that should be confirmed in regulations which I can not find now) - only the second illegal move (by the same player) is penalized with a forfeit.
Kd3 was only the first illegal
Ne3 was first too.
Game shall continue from the position after Rxb7.
Reading other sites: seems that the tournament has not enough arbiters to supervise all games, thus the Competition rules does not apply. I think then A4.4 kicks in (A.4.4 If the arbiter observes both kings are in check, or a pawn on the rank furthest from its starting position, he shall wait until the next move is completed. Then, if an illegal position is still on the board, he shall declare the game drawn.) Thus, Black and the arbiter made a bad decision, and it was overturned by the Chief arbiter.
FIDE World Rapid and Blitz Ch in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
December 29, 2017
Blitz
Notes on Rounds One to Eleven
The discussions between Chief Arbiter Takis and Inarkiev were actually caught on tape by NRK (Norwegian Television)
EI: I stopped the clock in the moment he made an illegal move
TN: Yes, you have the right to stop the clock. But this move he made is not illegal!
EI: But you talk about arbiter, it’s not arbiter. I stopped the clock and claimed illegal move
TN: But it’s not illegal move.
EI: You say Kd3 is illegal move in this position
TN: Your king is illegal move.
EI: You said Kd3 is illegal move
TN: Kd3 is not illegal move. You are saying this. It’s legal. By going there, it created an illegal position now it’s your turn to play, you can correct the illegal position by moving your king. Or, if you don’t move your king, then the illegal position remains and we declare a draw. This is the case.
(Inarkiev reads rule book)
EI: Yes, okay. I will make an appeal, because here it writes arbiter observes. But I stopped the clock and said it’s illegal move. Because I think when my king is under attack he can not move Kd3.
TN: He can make!
EI: This is not illegal move! You said Kd3 is illegal move.
IN: He made a move. The previously illegal move stands. He didn't claim for illegal move.
EI: But I claimed
TN: Claim for what? Your illegal move?
EI: No, claim for his illegal move!
TN: The move he played was legal!
EI: Not legal!
TN: Yes!
EI: You said in that position Kd3 is possible move
TN: Yes!
EI: No, it’s not possible.
TN: Yes, it is. It produces an illegal position, this is the difference.
EI: But the move is illegal.
TN: The move is not illegal! The move is not illegal! This is the point.
EI: (inaudible)
TN: okay, you continue the game or not?
EI: No, I want to make an appeal for this game. I am not continuing.
TN: Okay
From chess.com: While Inarkiev was studying the regulations (the chief arbiter had given him a copy), a smiling Vassily Ivanchuk took Carlsen's seat and started calculating.
According to Jonathan Tisdall’s twitter page, John-Sebastian Christiansen’s beating Ivanchuk and making him shed tears is a bigger Norwegian online news story than Magnus’s title chances now.
- Carlsen didn't make an illegal move. His move was legal, it was just such that produced an illegal position. That's exactly what arbiter said.
Anyways, arbiter offered Inarkiev to continue the game, but Inarkiev refused and said he will rather appeal. Of effing course he rather appealed, because he knew he would lose like the cheating idiot he is.
- If 28.Kd3 is an illegal move (getting out of check), then any other 28th move is illegal. By this logic, Carlsen could not have played a legal 28th move. This logic is obviously wrong. The position after an illegal move is not equivalent to a stalemate (no legal move). The position after an illegal move with check is not equivalent to a checkmate (no legal move+check).
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Round Twelve Pairings and Scores after Eleven Rounds
Bo. Name Rtg Pts. Result Pts. Name Rtg
1 GM Grischuk Alexander 2725 7½ - 7 GM Carlsen Magnus 2986
2 GM Wang Hao 2737 8 - 9 GM Karjakin Sergey 2854
3 GM Yu Yangyi 2701 8 - 8½ GM Vachier-Lagrave Maxime 2853
4 GM Le Quang Liem 2771 8 - 8 GM Ding Liren 2837
5 GM Mamedyarov Shakhriyar 2770 8 - 8 GM Svidler Peter 2797
6 GM Andriasian Zaven 2755 7½ - 7½ GM Nepomniachtchi Ian 2810
7 GM Salem A.R. Saleh 2757 7½ - 7½ GM Kravtsiv Martyn 2692
8 GM Artemiev Vladislav 2798 7 - 7 GM Dreev Aleksey 2640
9 GM Savchenko Boris 2619 7 - 7 GM Korobov Anton 2760
10 GM Harikrishna P. 2759 7 - 7 GM Amin Bassem 2655
11 GM Mamedov Rauf 2755 7 - 7 IM Christiansen Johan-Sebastian 2640
12 GM Anand Viswanathan 2736 7 - 7 GM Bacrot Etienne 2621
13 GM Kryvoruchko Yuriy 2596 7 - 7 GM Petrosian Tigran L. 2705
14 GM Melkumyan Hrant 2686 7 - 7 FM Esipenko Andrey 2581
15 GM Bortnyk Olexandr 2677 7 - 7 GM Rapport Richard 2600
16 GM Amonatov Farrukh 2628 7 - 7 GM Movsesian Sergei 2669
17 GM Leko Peter 2790 6½ - 6½ GM Vidit Santosh Gujrathi 2651
18 GM Ponomariov Ruslan 2711 6½ - 6½ GM Sjugirov Sanan 2645
19 GM Cheparinov Ivan 2672 6½ - 6½ GM Fedoseev Vladimir 2629
20 GM Bosiocic Marin 2572 6½ - 6½ GM Li Chao B 2668
21 GM Malakhov Vladimir 2655 6½ - 6½ GM Fressinet Laurent 2608
22 GM Quparadze Giga 2654 6½ - 6½ GM Zhigalko Sergei 2586
23 GM Wang Yue 2686 6 - 6½ GM Jobava Baadur 2585
24 GM Socko Bartosz 2619 6 - 6 GM Duda Jan-Krzysztof 2682
25 GM Laznicka Viktor 2681 6 - 6 GM Short Nigel D 2617
26 GM Saric Ivan 2674 6 - 6 GM Van Foreest Jorden 2573
27 GM Khismatullin Denis 2662 6 - 6 GM Howell David W L 2571
28 GM Grigoriants Sergey 2559 6 - 6 GM Vallejo Pons Francisco 2662
29 GM Bocharov Dmitry 2656 6 - 6 FM Dzhumagaliev Yan 2490
30 GM Akobian Varuzhan 2655 6 - 6 GM Tregubov Pavel V. 2505
31 GM Adhiban B. 2577 6 - 6 GM Georgiev Kiril 2629
32 GM Aronian Levon 2863 5½ - 5½ GM Demchenko Anton 2644
33 GM Ivanchuk Vassily 2815 5½ - 5½ GM Sargissian Gabriel 2644
34 GM Kasimdzhanov Rustam 2750 5½ - 5½ GM Moiseenko Alexander 2597
35 GM Safarli Eltaj 2695 5½ - 5½ GM Salgado Lopez Ivan 2582
36 GM Onischuk Vladimir 2607 5½ - 5½ GM Guseinov Gadir 2694
37 GM Ni Hua 2553 5½ - 5½ GM Riazantsev Alexander 2691
38 GM Sethuraman S.P. 2523 5½ - 5½ GM Bu Xiangzhi 2688
39 GM Adly Ahmed 2678 5½ - 5½ GM Mchedlishvili Mikheil 2568
40 GM Dobrov Vladimir 2508 5½ - 5½ GM Eljanov Pavel 2659
Last edited by Wayne Komer; Friday, 29th December, 2017, 11:29 PM.
Reading other sites: seems that the tournament has not enough arbiters to supervise all games, thus the Competition rules does not apply. I think then A4.4 kicks in (A.4.4 If the arbiter observes both kings are in check, or a pawn on the rank furthest from its starting position, he shall wait until the next move is completed. Then, if an illegal position is still on the board, he shall declare the game drawn.) Thus, Black and the arbiter made a bad decision, and it was overturned by the Chief arbiter.
This incident reminds me of a tournament blitz game I played at an Olympiad fund-raiser at an Umbra store in Toronto. My opponent made an illegal move (his King was in check) and when I chopped his King he claimed that that was not allowed, and that he should in fact get the win. He spent a very long time arguing with the arbiter but to no avail. My point to him was that chopping his King was not a move, but a demonstration that in fact he made an illegal move and that the game was over, but he wasn't having any of it. Sigh... players can stoop to some low levels sometimes...
FIDE World Rapid and Blitz Ch in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
December 30, 2017
Blitz
Rounds Twelve to Twenty-one
At the end of yesterday’s action, Magnus Carlsen had 8.0 points and was standing 11th behind Karjakin 9.5, MVL and Ding Liren 9.0, Wang Hao, Svidler, Yu Yangyi, Nepomniachtchi and Mamedyarov 8.5 and Esipenko and Amonatov also with 8.0.
The King Salman World Blitz Chess Championship concluded today in Riyadh with Magnus Carlsen (Norway) and Nana Dzagnidze (Georgia) emerging convincing champions of their respective section.
After the first day of the championship Magnus Carlsen trailed full two points behind the leader and 2016 champion Sergey Karjakin. However, the impressive winning streak on the second day, where he conceded only two draws in ten games, put Carlsen ahead of the field and he secured the title with a round to spare. His total score in the end is 16/21 points.
Point and a half behind the champion are Sergey Karjakin and World Rapid Champion Viswanathan Anand. Karjakin took the silver medal on better tie-break, but the prize money will be shared.
This is Carlsen’s third world blitz title, having previously won in Moscow 2009 and Dubai 2014.
Carlsen stated in an interview with FIDE press officer: “Obviously, I am extremely happy. Yesterday was a difficult day for me, but today everything went beyond expectations. This title means a lot to me, especially after losing that last game from the leading position in the Rapid Championship. So it’s a massive win.”
Nana Dzagnidze repeated the strong performance from the first day of the Women’s Championship, and with Pia Cramling’s misfortune, this was sufficient for the clear first place with 16,5/21 points.
The powerful finish of five straight victories lifted Valentina Gunina to the second place half a point behind the winner.
The rest of the field remained far behind. Ju Wenjun and Kateryna Lagno shared the third place with 14 points each, but the Rapid Champion Ju claimed the bronze in blitz thanks to the superior tie-break.
Dzagnidze said: “It was a very difficult event and this title is very important to me. I am still not aware that I became champion. This was my dream.”
Dzagnidze is reigning European champion in classical chess.
At the conclusion of the tournament, awards were handed out. The medal winners got a bouquet of flowers, a medal, a trophy and the overall winner had his/her national anthem played.
Open Rapid
1. Vishy Anand $150,000
2. Vladimir Fedoseev $150,000
3. Ian Nepomniachtchi $150,000
Women’s Rapid
1. Ju Wenjun $80,000
2. Lei Tingjie $40,000
3. Elisabeth Paehtz $25,000
These are the nominal values of the awards because FIDE takes 20%.
Question and answer at chess.com
How come the female winner only gets 80k?
Women are free to compete in the Open section for the 250k instead of the much lower but much easier Women section. Most go for the easy option. I respect Hou Yifan for that. Almost always competes in the Open.
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In the 19th round, Grischuk was playing Mamedyarov. Evidently at one point Grischuk told the arbiter that a three-fold repetition of position occurred and it was a draw. The arbiter looked at the game, couldn’t find the repetition and the game proceeded with Grischuk finally losing to Mamedyarov.
The final round was delayed because the Chief Arbiter could not be found. The suspicion was that he was reviewing that game and that he had found the repetition.
In the final results, the game is given as a draw. This is the game as it was originally played out.
World Blitz Championship 2017
Round 19, Dec. 30, 3/2
Grischuk, Alexander – Mamedyarov, Shakhriyar
A06 Reti Opening
This incident reminds me of a tournament blitz game I played at an Olympiad fund-raiser at an Umbra store in Toronto. My opponent made an illegal move (his King was in check) and when I chopped his King he claimed that that was not allowed, and that he should in fact get the win. He spent a very long time arguing with the arbiter but to no avail. My point to him was that chopping his King was not a move, but a demonstration that in fact he made an illegal move and that the game was over, but he wasn't having any of it. Sigh... players can stoop to some low levels sometimes...
Hugh, I remember the moment slightly differently ;)
dress code and visas, it seems, Trump concerns about a war
So, the King Salman World Rapid and Blitz Chess Championships are over. The event was well-organized, the players handsomely paid, deserving champions won, and some great chess was played.
The Western MSM coverage was a real dog's breakfast, however. Alongside the chess coverage, continuing attention was paid to:
(a) the dress code issue. Saudi laws were relaxed during the tournament, although that didn't stop some players - notably Ukrainian GM Muzychuk - from boycotting the event anyway. Other top players, notably Georgian IM Lela Javkhishvili, made contrary remarks:
"I didn't see some of those players protesting against ridiculous and somehow insulting prizes in the recent ACP Women’s Rapid and Blitz European Championship, where almost nobody got conditions and where for example 5th place wouldn't even cover travel expenses. For me it's not less insulting than to wear a hijab for four days. And where in those cases are the voices of "principled" chess players and "human rights defenders?"
The issue had been in the chess news in relation to a recent competition in Iran. But those who are told to hate Iran and forgive Saudi Arabia were in a quandry; it's much easier to hate all Muslims and re-gurgitate Samuel Huntington's odious clash of civilizations mantra. Which is what much of the commentary was - bigotry passed off as concern for human rights. A recent fluff piece by Dorsa Derakhshani in the NYT very helpfully reminded readers of which Muslims we should hate. Timely.
(b) the visa issue. Eventually, despite some signs that there would be some change here, neither the Iranians nor the Israelis had players in the event. Three GMs from Qatar [GM Al-Sayed Mohammed, GM Al-Modiahki Mohamad on the men's side and GM Zhu Chen on the women's side] and a 2000-player from Yemen, Farhan Marwan Ali, played.
The Israelis were unlucky, I think. The US President's foolish decision around the time of the event to announce that he would move the US Embassey from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem put the Saudi regime under pressure to take action and not appear as a complete stooge. When the outrage dies down a little, the Saudis may very well invite their new friends from Israel to send some players next year. But not the Iranians. The Iranians are bad like Russia is bad.
There is an ongoing campaign to present the King-in-waiting, Mohammed bin Salman, as some sort of reformer. The cosmetic changes are emphasized, and the brutal crackdown, torture, horrific war in Yemen, etc., etc., are ignored and trivialized. Ten of billions in weapons sales [including the largest weapons sale in US history coming in at an astounding 110 Billion U$] from the NATO countries, US, UK, Canada, as well as France and others, makes for a lot of "good will" from those countries. The US and UK are also heavily involved, directly, in the smooth efficiency of the war on Yemen with mid-air refueling, command center(s), assistance with the brutal naval blockade of Yemen, information warfare [such as blaming Iran for everything in the war], and so on.
The criticism of the KSA is always going to be somewhat muted when such profitable weapons sales are ongoing. And, of course, that includes Canada. A year from now, I expect images of MbS with fluffy white kittens. Not so much dead Yemeni children.
What was not paid attention to, what was studiously avoided, except for [sometimes] a perfunctory acknowledgement, was the ongoing and horrific war being waged by Saudi Arabia on Yemen, now over 1,000 days long. And now that the tournament is over, the attacks have been escalated ...
The US-backed Saudi monarchy and its allied Gulf oil sheikdoms have dramatically escalated their bombing campaign against Yemen, the poorest nation in the Middle East, killing scores of civilians within the last few days.
In the bloodiest of the airstrikes, Saudi warplanes targeted a crowded marketplace in Yemen’s southwestern Taiz province on Tuesday, killing 54 civilians.
While coverage of the bloodbath by the US and Western media has been scarce, Yemen’s Al Masirah television network published photos on its website showing the market’s bombed-out shops and the dismembered remains of slaughtered civilians. It reported that body parts had been thrown hundreds of yards from the blast sites.
Among the dead were at least eight children. Another 32 people were wounded in the bombing, including six children.
Never mind! Iran is bad! Very bad! Saudi Arabia is undergoing an Arab Spring! The NYT says so!
On the same day, warplanes attacked a farm in the al-Tuhayta district of Yemen’s western Hodeida province killing an entire family of 14, including women and children.
Yemeni sources reported that Saudi and allied warplanes carried out more than 45 airstrikes on Wednesday targeting several Yemeni cities and killing at least another six civilians, including a family of five whose house was targeted in the port city of Hodeida.
According to the Al Masirah television network the number of Yemenis killed and wounded in Saudi airstrikes since the beginning of December had risen to 600 before the latest round of casualties beginning on Tuesday.
Background notes - was Obama better?
During his trip to Saudi Arabia in May, US President Donald Trump signed a $110 billion arms deal with the Saudi regime. While the agreement represented the single largest arms deal in US history, it represented a continuity with the policy pursued by the Democratic administration of Barack Obama, which had struck a $29 billion agreement to sell F-15s the Saudis—representing the previous largest single US arms deal—and had a total of $100 billion worth of weaponry slated for sale to the kingdom.
In addition to providing the warplanes, bombs and missiles being used to slaughter Yemeni civilians, Washington is a direct accomplice and participant in the assault on Yemen, a flagrant war crime that has produced the greatest humanitarian catastrophe on the face of the planet. US Air Force planes are flying refueling missions that keep Saudi fighter bombers in the air, while US intelligence officers are assisting in the targeting of airstrikes and US warships are backing a Saudi sea blockade that is part of a barbaric siege of the country aimed at starving its population into submission.
While an estimated 13,600 civilians have lost their lives to the US-backed Saudi military campaign launched in March of 2015, that death toll has been massively eclipsed by the number of lives lost to hunger and disease resulting from the destruction of basic water and sanitary infrastructure, along with factories, farms, medical facilities and other vital resources, and the blockading of food, medicine and humanitarian supplies.
And on and on and on. But barely a peep about it in the Western MSM. And certainly nothing about it around the chess tournament. That would be ... rude.
So what we have is a dress code, and visas for players from a few countries without diplomatic relations, taking the place of more serious criticism about a brutal and horrific war. But when have Westerners given a shit about Yemen? So all of this is terrible and entirely predictable.
We do, however, have a country to aim our venom at. No, not Russia. Right on cue, neo-con warmonger John McCain met with the US-sponsored MEK leader, Maryam Rajavi. The USA always has the best terrorists. Watch out, Iran. You're next.
Maybe if the Iranians buy weapons from the US, UK, and Canada then all will be well? But how could anyone say such a thing!?
Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.
I blundered a check, got a king captured, clock pressed. Accepted a loss. Told about that chopping the king was not allowed by rules, and for that actions you might get a loss where rules would rule. You did not agree with that, with your load voice attracted everyone attention around, even the arbiter came from other side of the room. Told the story to the arbiter. His reactions was more like "do we have here a good time"?
From then I always ask in blitz tournaments in Toronto - can King be captured? The answer I receive - No.
Your way to demonstrate that king was in check (capturing it) was removed many years ago. Though still practiced in coffee house chess.
There is a situation.
The king is captured. Though they make a move and checkmates the opponent. Go figure out the result.
So, the King Salman World Rapid and Blitz Chess Championships are over. The event was well-organized, the players handsomely paid, deserving champions won, and some great chess was played.
The Western MSM coverage was a real dog's breakfast, however. Alongside the chess coverage, continuing attention was paid to:
Over those two months I have not seen a stand of the CFC regarding this, nor Canadian GMs expressing their thoughts. Assuming that nobody was playing they've maybe voted with their feet. But you never know.
Over those two months I have not seen a stand of the CFC regarding this, nor Canadian GMs expressing their thoughts. Assuming that nobody was playing they've maybe voted with their feet. But you never know.
It could be wise for both the CFC and Canadian GMs to keep their views to themselves. There are very powerful interests at play here and I don't see how official comments could help either.
Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.
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