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    Some years ago I found a copy of "Chess of Today" by Alfred Emery published by Frank Hollings, London, 1924, at a book sale in Ottawa. It had been owned previously by one “E. H. Green , 92 Noble Ave, Winnipeg”. Mr Green was in the habit of writing down the date in pencil after he had played through a game and often a note. One example: Game 12, Reti – Tartakover, Berlin 1920 has this penciled in the margin: “4/4/34 A fine tricky game”. The dates recorded thus in pencil range from 2/15/31 through to 1/1/41.

    The book itself is not exceptional; just 108 numbered pages with lots of advertising at beginning and end. There is a 9 page introduction, 50 professional games from the years 1918-1923 with scant annotations. The book closes with 9 pages devoted to “Notes on the Openings” and then an index. The binding has sewn signatures with flexible cloth covers. The cover lists the original price as 2’6 nett, i.e. two shillings, six pence.

    Naturally my curiosity was piqued. Who was this E. H. Green? It was most fortunate that he had written his name and address on the cover page. A Google search directed me to some old issues of the Winnipeg Free Press which ran a chess column. He was for a time the secretary of the Canadian Chess Correspondence Association, and the chess column gives his name and address as the CCCA contact for those interested in playing chess by correspondence. Reference: page 34 of the Winnipeg Free Press, 1928-11-24, et al.

    Mr Green shows concern for the chess player who attempts to make a living at the game several times in his penciled notes, most notably in a full page screed written on a blank page facing page 1: “Introduction”. At the bottom of page 1, the author Alfred Emory, has a section titled “Two Lean Years”. Mr Green inserts an asterisk at this point and on the facing page writes this:
    All years are “lean years” for the chess player. Nearly all great masters have died early or in indigent circumstances. Janowski practically died of starvation; a public collection was taken up to provide for the two sisters of Yates; the whole chess world chipped in to save Akiba Rubinstein’s family from starvation. Maroczy still makes a precarious existence at the game. Pillsbury and Reti exhausted their mental resources over a chess board and died early – untimely deaths. Only Alekhine has made the game pay him dividends. Better to be a baseball player or a Manassa Mauler if financial success is your goal. Or, if you must have intricacies that intrigue the mental faculties, why not get acquainted with the predictable complexities of the “moment of inertia” and the “radius of gyration” which have all the interesting characteristics of chess and have also uses that are convertible into cash. 9/8/40


    We may ask ourselves how much has changed since Mr Green wrote this nearly 80 years ago. My own experience is that chess, while a fine game, really does not pay well.

  • #2
    Hi Gordon,

    Thanks for the interesting reading. The Canadian Open of Winnipeg, 1994, is very memorable for me. There is a longstanding and deep chess culture in Winnipeg. An incredible character was Albert Boxer. I wish I could remember all of the stories he told. Watching him and Nathan Divinsky converse was quite amusing. Spending time with Abe Yanofsky was rewarding. And of course I recall Hans doing a big blindfold simul. :) That tournament also witnessed evenings out for refreshments with Nick, Kevin, Ray Stone and many of the Winnipeg boys. The event was put on by Peter Stockhausen. Good old days!

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    • #3
      I was able to find out a little bit more about Mr. E. L. Green on the internet. He has an early mention in the article on the history of correspondence chess in Canada that can be found on the ICCF website:

      https://www.iccf.com/country?country=CAN :
      "The Canadian Correspondence Chess Association, or CCCA, was founded in 1921 by E.H. Green of Winnipeg, who felt that CC would provide a form of entertainment during the long, cold winters on the Canadian Prairies when ice and snow forced many people to be shut-in. Green’s initial group, the Western Canada Correspondence Chess Club, or WCCCC, evolved from a chess column in the Winnipeg Free Press newspaper in 1918. The newspaper column, which encouraged readers interested in CC to contact Mr. Green, was instrumental in organising the club’s first event in 1919, which ended in 1921. The WCCCC wasn’t a formal club with a regular newsletter, but it communicated with members by letters and through the Winnipeg newspaper, which acted as “the club’s Official medium for notices, results and judge of play”, according to an early column."
      This helps to explain why his name and address appear so often in the chess column section of the Winnipeg Free Press. This article also says that there is a book “The History of Correspondence Chess in Canada” by Leonard Zehr and J. Ken MacDonald, which I regret to say I have never seen. But I would like to...

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      • #4
        E H Green of Winnipeg

        October 6, 2019

        Gordon, I do have a copy of “The History of Correspondence Chess in Canada”. It is a big handsome book. Here are the details:

        Title: The History of Correspondence Chess in Canada

        Authors: Leonard Zehr and J. Ken MacDonald

        Publisher: Thinkers’ Press, Inc
        Davenport, Iowa

        Year: 2006

        Format: Hardback, 252 pages

        From the cover: From humble beginnings in 1841, correspondence chess in Canada has had a long and noble history, its longevity defying insurmountable odds: a sparsely populated territory that stretches some 3,000 miles in length, strong regional chess interests and a powerful chess neighbour to the south.

        Based on in-depth research of 19thcentury newspaper files and historic journals, authors Leonard Zehr and J. Ken Macdonald trace the game’s roots and the embryonic first steps to cobble together a national postal organization. Highlighted by the long-forgotten games of early masters like John Henderson, Henry Robertson and James Narraway, a picture emerges of the strength and perseverance of early chess organizers.

        Holding positions of prominence are Professor John Cherriman of the University of Toronto, who organized the first postal and international postal tournaments; Joseph Shaw, who shaped the first round-robin tournament by mail in North America; Charles Stubbs of New Brunswick; and Ernest Green of Winnipeg, the father of the Canadian Correspondence Chess Association.

        And moving into the 20thcentury, with the emergence of CC champions like Walter Muir and Frank Yerhoff, leaders like Bernard Freedman and John Cleeve strengthened the backbone of postal chess and took Canada into the international arena. There, players like Alex Siklos, Duncan Suttles, Jonathan Berry, Bob Kiviaho and Jean Hébert rose like cream to the surface. Along the way, Canada created the longest continuous running correspondence chess publication in the world.

        These are the stories that make up the history of correspondence chess in Canada.

        __________

        On pages 124 – 134, Ernest H. Green’s contributions to the Association are discussed by the authors.

        See also:

        http://www.cccachess.ca/downloads/ad...CinCanada2.pdf

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        • #5
          Back in 2006, based on a request from David Cohen, who was assisting Ken MacDonald, I did some local investigation in determining some details of the "Ernest Green", including visit to two cemeteries to confirm that one H. Green was not Ernest H. Green. I'll spare you some of the unimportant details, but what I found at the time in old Henderson's Directories:
          "Ernest H. Green is at 92 Noble. It lists him as an employee of the Monarch Lumber Company.
          He is at 92 Noble up to and including the 1959 edition when the house is indicated as vacant, but his name is still in the alphabetical section as at Noble (remember, this is before databases as we know them today). He is variously listed (1941-1952) as clerk or bookkeeper until 1953 when he is listed as retired. In 1960, a Scarth is listed as the occupant of 92 Noble. I do not see E.H. Green listed in the alphabetical section after 1960. So he may have died, moved out of Winnipeg, perhaps in hospital."
          Today, I did a quick search of the newspaper archives, but could not find an obituary for him,

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          • #6
            Stephen Wright has found the obituary - from the Winnipeg Free Press, 6 November 1957:

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            • #7
              Thanks Wayne for the information relating to the History of Correspondence Chess in Canada. I will look for it, but only on the 2nd hand market where I find almost all the books I now add to my library. Honestly, I find used books to have more "character" and interest. Buying a used book is for me a "second distillation." And you never know what you may find inside, but rarely anything so revealing as this book "Chess of To-day" once owned by Mr Green. And now thanks to you and Tony we can give him all his names - Ernest Herbert Green. Odd that his obit mentions his four year tour with the US Army in the Philippines (a nasty little war now largely forgotten) but nothing about his many years of service on behalf of correspondence chess. What's that old saying, "Virtue is its own reward." There may be more to this story but I think we now have the main points.

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              • #8
                Hi Gordon,

                I have three books that once belonged to E.H. Green that I bought from the CCCA years ago. Only the "Book of the Folkestone 1933 International Team Tournament" by Kashdan has his name and address. The book also has some dated annotations that start in 1933 and end in 1952. It has a sticker inside from Chess stating "With our sincere congratulations on your success in postal chess".

                The second is "The Book of the London International Chess Congress 1922" by Maroczy and Watts. It was purchased from "Chess Sutton Coldfield England World Chess Specialists" and has a sticker inside which has a publishers' announcement stating that :"Through Enemy Action our New Address is ..." which would date it to the early 1940s.

                The third is "Prague 1946" by Golombek and was also published by Chess Sutton Coldfield some time after 1950.

                The second and third books do not have Green's name and address but I was told by Manny Migicovsky that they belonged to Green. All three books have the faint smell of tobacco smoke which suggests that Green might have been a heavy smoker. I was wondering if you noticed the same thing about your book?

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                • #9
                  Hi Stephen,

                  Thanks for this. You have some really cool books. And it confirms one of my life-time motos -- "It's not just me!" In other words, if I experience something, then it is almost certain that others will have experienced the same. I use this line most often when I have to phone and complain about something -- to impress on them that the problem is much greater than just one person.

                  I can't detect any smell of tobacco smoke in the book I have. I think the only thing I can deduce is that Mr Green did not open "Chess of Today" very often. Of course, prior to say 1960, smoking was endemic. Not to smoke was unusual; why deprive yourself of one of life's true pleasures? And perhaps two world wars and the depression aided the addiction. It was a different time. The only smells I truly dislike in books are mold and perfume. But a box of baking soda costs only a buck and solves most of these problems.

                  I too have some books with the "Chess, Sutton Coldfield" sticker, e.g. "The Basis of Combination in Chess" by J du Mont. If we live long enough we will collect some treasures!
                  Last edited by Gordon Taylor; Tuesday, 8th October, 2019, 10:25 AM. Reason: minor spelling

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                  • #10
                    Mention of Sutton Coldfield, a town in the Midlands of England, reminds me of B. H. Wood, who was ever-present on the British chess scene after WW2. He was a player, writer, and administrator (think BCM), lived in Sutton Coldfield, and helped found the town chess club. Have at it all you chess historians!
                    Fred Harvey

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                    • #11
                      E H Green of Winnipeg

                      October 8, 2019

                      There have been previous postings on B. H. Wood:

                      B. H. Wood and Gijon

                      https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...-quotes/page37

                      CHESS Magazine and B. H. Wood

                      https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...e-and-b-h-wood

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                      • #12
                        E H Green of Winnipeg

                        October 8, 2019

                        Inscriptions in books of previous owners

                        1 Gift Inscriptions – When a book is given as a gift and a message to the recipient is written inside

                        2 Ownership Signature – Some sign and date their own books

                        3 Facsimile Signatures – This is not signed but rather printed or stamped onto the book

                        4 Inscriptions – This is when the author has written a short note along with their signature or addressed to someone specific

                        5 Association Copies – Signed by the author and addressed to someone associated with the author – such as a family member

                        6 Dedication – Signed by the author to whom the book is dedicated

                        7 Signature – A book hand signed by the author, illustrator or editor

                        https://www.catawiki.com/stories/438...value-of-books

                        ___________

                        I have a number of Russian books in my collection in which the authors have inscribed to Alexander Roshal, journalist and chess magazine editor.

                        I seem to remember a review of a book, written in the last few years, where the author buys second-hand books with ownership signatures and then he seeks out the family to find the backstory on the book.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stephen Humphreys View Post
                          Hi Gordon,

                          I have three books that once belonged to E.H. Green that I bought from the CCCA years ago. Only the "Book of the Folkestone 1933 International Team Tournament" by Kashdan has his name and address. The book also has some dated annotations that start in 1933 and end in 1952. It has a sticker inside from Chess stating "With our sincere congratulations on your success in postal chess".
                          My bound volumes of "Chess" and "BCM" that I inherited from Ignas Zalys often have (in pencil) the date (dating back to the late 40s) on which he played over the game, and sometimes minor comments.


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                          • #14
                            I have one other book that originated from Chess Sutton Coldfield: "Championship Chess" by Botvinnik. It is a an translation of the original Russian book "The Match Tournament of 1941". I bought it in a second hand book store and it is in pretty good shape (still has the original dust cover). It was published by MacGibbon & Kee in 1950 but has the Chess Sutton Coldfield sticker inside.

                            Green's comment in the Folkestone book about the game between Alekhine and Tartakover (dated 8/26/34): "Good boy, Tartakover! He won this game, not by playing a fluke, but by very distinctly outplaying the wold's champion."

                            The Folkestone tournament was held in July 1933 and Green's first comment is dated November 30, 1933. That must have been blazing speed in those days.

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                            • #15
                              I haven't checked my entire chess library yet but I did manage to go through all my bound volumes of BCM ...1960's complete ...1970's complete ...1980's complete and some of the loose near complete 1950's, but haven't found anything of note.

                              But I do have comments penned by Al Tomalty...

                              https://societyofchessaficionados.co...analysis_1.jpg

                              EN PASSANT #69; November 1984

                              ...considered 'vintage' by now?

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