Maurice Fox: Why not an IM?

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  • #16
    Somehow that submitted before I finished. I might have a hard time finding 84 master strength players who were active in 1931.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
      Somehow that submitted before I finished. I might have a hard time finding 84 master strength players who were active in 1931.
      I'm comfortable saying that the top 19 players in 1931 were GM strength. The top 100 are masters and Fox is higher than Menchik, Dake and Edward Lasker. I think other masters in Canada at that time included Belson, Blumin, Eastman, Gale, Martin, Morrison, Opsahl, Richard and Whitfield.

      September 1931 rating list

      1 Alexander Alekhine 2843
      2 José Capablanca 2773
      3 Aron Nimzowitsch 2735
      4 Efim Bogoljubow 2732
      5 Isaac Kashdan 2727
      6 Max Euwe 2711
      7 Akiba Rubinstein 2693
      8 Saviely Tartakower 2677
      9 Mir Sultan Khan 2676
      10 Salo Flohr 2656
      11 Rudolf Spielmann 2653
      12 Milan Vidmar Sr 2645
      13 Albert Becker 2643
      14 Carl Ahues 2630
      15 Ernst Grünfeld 2629
      16 Gösta Stoltz 2629
      17 Géza Maróczy 2625
      18 Boris Kostic 2615
      19 Hermanis Matisons 2610
      20 Carlos Skalicka 2603
      21 Edgar Colle 2603
      22 Friedrich Sämisch 2595
      23 Baldur Hönlinger 2592
      24 Paul List 2588
      25 Hans Kmoch 2588
      26 Dawid Przepiórka 2587
      27 Kurt Richter 2583
      28 Frank Marshall 2579
      29 Lajos Steiner 2579
      30 Alexander Kevitz 2578
      31 Al Horowitz 2571
      32 Abraham Kupchik 2571
      33 Ludwig Rellstab Sr 2569
      34 Vasja Pirc 2567
      35 Karel Opocenský 2567
      36 Josef Lokvenc 2567
      37 George Thomas 2566
      38 Jácobo Bolbochán 2566
      39 Ludwig Rödl 2564
      40 Vladas Mikenas 2563
      41 Endre Steiner 2562
      42 Imre König 2562
      43 Carl Carls 2560
      44 Frederick Yates 2559
      45 Gideon Stĺhlberg 2558
      46 Eugene Znosko-Borovsky 2557
      47 Lajos Asztalos 2557
      48 Josef Rejfír 2556
      49 Esteban Canal 2555
      50 Karl Helling 2546
      51 Karel Treybal 2544
      52 Herman Steiner 2543
      53 Reginald Michell 2540
      54 Kornél Havasi 2540
      55 Abraham Baratz 2540
      56 Salo Landau 2538
      57 Daniël Noteboom 2537
      58 Henri Weenink 2537
      59 Isador Turover 2531
      60 Karl Gilg 2529
      61 Anthony Santasiere 2524
      62 Alfred Brinckmann 2524
      63 Sándor Takács 2523
      64 Ramon Rey Ardid 2521
      65 Vladimirs Petrovs 2520
      66 Hans Müller 2517
      67 Alejandro Nogues Acuna 2513
      68 Emil Richter 2511
      69 Heinrich Wagner 2506
      70 Kazimierz Makarczyk 2506
      71 Hans Johner 2504
      72 Victor Soultanbéieff 2503
      73 Isaías Pleci 2501
      74 George Koltanowski 2496
      75 Jakob Seitz 2495
      76 William Winter 2491
      77 Erik Sr Andersen 2491
      78 Jacques Mieses 2489
      79 Gerhard Weissgerber 2488
      80 Johannes Hermanus Addicks 2484
      81 Stefano Rosselli del Turco 2481
      82 Arpád Vajda 2475
      83 Theodore Tylor 2471
      84 MAURICE FOX 2470
      85 Virgilio Fenoglio 2469
      86 Fricis Apšenieks 2469
      87 Brian Reilly 2467
      88 Vera Menchik 2467
      89 Manuel Golmayo de la Torriente 2467
      90 Teodor Regedzinski 2466
      91 Mario Monticelli 2464
      92 Scheinbergas 2464
      93 José Araiza Munoz 2462
      94 Johannes van den Bosch 2462
      95 Arthur Dake 2461
      96 Edward Lasker 2460
      97 Roberto Grau 2457
      98 Carl Ruben 2453
      99 Edward Sergeant 2452
      100 Jindrich Engel 2450

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Wayne Komer View Post
        Maurice Fox: Why not an IM?

        May 20, 2020

        Hans Jung: In 1974 when I played him Maurice Fox had a rating of 2350.

        Can you give us the score of that game? I would love to play it over.
        I have a big 3ft cubed cardboard box in my study with about 3000 scoresheets sitting in it. If I get to it soon I'll post it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Hans Jung View Post

          I have a big 3ft cubed cardboard box in my study with about 3000 scoresheets sitting in it. If I get to it soon I'll post it.
          I love that "picture". My scoresheets (not as many as yourself) are in at least 3 different rooms in my current house lol

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          • #20
            Thanks so much for everyone who responded on this important question. My impression of what FIDE did in 1950 and years shortly thereafter was to reward players who had done very well in years prior to that, when there was NO formal qualification system. For example, Dr. Ossip Bernstein was awarded GM, and he was nearly 70 then, for his prior results. Same for players like Oldrich Duras. Edward Lasker made IM and he was never U.S. champion; he did have some decent results from the 1910s and 1920s, 30+ years earlier. Super-strong players who had passed away in the decade before 1950, such as Capablanca, Em. Lasker, Alekhine, Marshall, Spielmann, Petrovs, etc got nothing. FIDE did make an exception for one Italian, a nobleman, who had died in 1947; can't think of his name just now; he made IM in 1950.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Frank Dixon View Post
              Thanks so much for everyone who responded on this important question. My impression of what FIDE did in 1950 and years shortly thereafter was to reward players who had done very well in years prior to that, when there was NO formal qualification system. For example, Dr. Ossip Bernstein was awarded GM, and he was nearly 70 then, for his prior results. Same for players like Oldrich Duras. Edward Lasker made IM and he was never U.S. champion; he did have some decent results from the 1910s and 1920s, 30+ years earlier. Super-strong players who had passed away in the decade before 1950, such as Capablanca, Em. Lasker, Alekhine, Marshall, Spielmann, Petrovs, etc got nothing. FIDE did make an exception for one Italian, a nobleman, who had died in 1947; can't think of his name just now; he made IM in 1950.
              I've tried to identify who became an IM on the 1931 list. I found the 1950 first FIDE list of 27 GMs, but not the 94 IMs. There was some politics, as Russia wanted to give IM titles to all players who played in three Soviet Championships, but the Americans only wanted the IM title from international events. As a result, several strong Americans on this list never received the IM title. Several historic players received titles in the revision in 1953. Most of these players have a Wikipedia page.

              16 became GMs (a couple Honorary), and 26 IMs. FIDE does not award titles to players who have died, and several died during the war. If alive, the top 50 would all have titles. The titles decrease after player 50 and get rarer after 74, only 2 GM and 3 IM. So I could argue that Fox at position 84 was just below IM strength. Or that other players increased in strength 1931-50 while Fox didn't. I doubt that Canada would have lobbied for him to get an IM title.


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