Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec
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Last edited by Peter McKillop; Friday, 23rd October, 2020, 09:55 AM."We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View PostI know that Trump's total destruction of Biden in tonight's debate must be so damaging to those of you with Trump Derangement Syndrome.
It will be over soon.
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Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
When your response to not being able to reunite 545 children with their families is "they are living in the cleanest, best facilities ", you lost the debate. I would have thought something like that would be important for a Christian, but I guess not a Trump Christian.
Vlad Drkulec appears to be just one of many ChrINOs (Christian In Name Only) out there, and most of them support Trump.
Romans 16:17-18 (ESV)
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
Perhaps the Bible is the originator of the idea of "fake news", with verses like:
Matthew 7:15 (ESV)
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Of course, the Bible doesn't explain how to tell a false prophet from a real prophet of God, but it should be obvious to all who the ones are that "cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught".
Anyone who claims to be Christian yet sides with a U.S. President whose POLICY is to send asylum seekers back where they came from, whose POLICY is to separate kids from their parents, all in a racist effort to keep visible minorities out of the U.S., can be compared to the teachings of Christ regarding children and regarding the treatment of people less fortunate than ourselves, and can be easily determined to be a ChrINO.
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Anyone who presents at the border with kids should have their and their kids DNA tested. The parents data should be placed in national data banks of DNA used for solving crimes in addition to comparing to see if they are really related to the kids. If the DNA shows that the kids and parent are related, they should be reunited in Mexico or Canada pending disposition of their asylum claim to the U.S.
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View PostAnyone who presents at the border with kids should have their and their kids DNA tested. The parents data should be placed in national data banks of DNA used for solving crimes in addition to comparing to see if they are really related to the kids. If the DNA shows that the kids and parent are related, they should be reunited in Mexico or Canada pending disposition of their asylum claim to the U.S."We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
Vlad Drkulec appears to be just one of many ChrINOs (Christian In Name Only) out there, and most of them support Trump.
Romans 16:17-18 (ESV)
I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
Perhaps the Bible is the originator of the idea of "fake news", with verses like:
Matthew 7:15 (ESV)
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Of course, the Bible doesn't explain how to tell a false prophet from a real prophet of God, but it should be obvious to all who the ones are that "cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught".
Some predictions do not come true because in the face of promised destruction people can genuinely repent and then God can repent of the promised punishment. Presumably it can work in the other direction too.
Anyone who claims to be Christian yet sides with a U.S. President whose POLICY is to send asylum seekers back where they came from, whose POLICY is to separate kids from their parents, all in a racist effort to keep visible minorities out of the U.S., can be compared to the teachings of Christ regarding children and regarding the treatment of people less fortunate than ourselves, and can be easily determined to be a ChrINO.
It would be a sin to send back people who are seeking asylum because of persecution but most of those seeking asylum do not fall into that category.
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If Jesus did return, the Republican's would call him a liberal and tell him to get lost. It is amazing the mental backflips they need to go through to explain their positions.
Last edited by Brian Profit; Friday, 23rd October, 2020, 03:32 PM.
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
It would be a sin to send back people who are seeking asylum because of persecution but most of those seeking asylum do not fall into that category.
I also like how you snuck in the word "most". It implies that some do, but they are all treated the same. But no problem....they are not white Christians, so who really cares about them.
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
As the proverb goes, the devil can quote scripture for his own ends. I read that verse as an indictment of the Demonrats and their whole race-baiting agenda. Did you even read what you quoted? Specifically "obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught," The doctrine that you have been taught would have been the doctrine with respect to the divinity of Christ, the Holy Spirit and the Creator or Father. The Democrats seek to replace God with the state. I'm also pretty sure that it is not blasphemy as one governor has proposed to be opposed the Democratic doctrine on abortion up to the moment of birth and even after birth when we will keep the baby comfortable while we decide its fate in consultation with the woman and the doctors.He being the one wearing the KKK robe while standing next to a guy in blackface.
The Bible does explain it. The proof of a prophet is in whether his prophecies come true or not. For example, Kim Clement in 2007 to 2014 predicted that Trump would win the White House for two terms. This was before Trump was even a candidate. He predicted the impeachment push. He said that Trump would build a wall of protection around the U.S. He said that Trump would slay two giants, one being socialism. He would destroy the enemies of the U.S. and Israel. He said that the Democrats would try to put a witch in the White House. (Not sure if this is referring to Hillary's dabbling in voodoo as outlined in her and Bill Clinton's autobiographical books or to the coven of famous people that Hillary was given an honorary membership in. Perhaps the Q-anon conspiracy theories have some basis...) He predicted that the U.S. would become self-sufficient in energy so that they would no longer need the Middle East. He predicted that Trump would be a friend and ally to Israel. There are a few major predictions that will either come true with a Trump re-election or not come true. If he is right about everything else and wrong about that then we have to treat him with suspicion.
Some predictions do not come true because in the face of promised destruction people can genuinely repent and then God can repent of the promised punishment. Presumably it can work in the other direction too.
It is amusing to be lectured on Christianity by people who might charitably be described as pagans and atheists or at best individuals not at all grounded in religious principles or biblical understanding.
It would be a sin to send back people who are seeking asylum because of persecution but most of those seeking asylum do not fall into that category."We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post. The Democrats seek to replace God with the state. I'm also pretty sure that it is not blasphemy as one governor has proposed to be opposed the Democratic doctrine on abortion up to the moment of birth and even after birth when we will keep the baby comfortable while we decide its fate in consultation with the woman and the doctors.He being the one wearing the KKK robe while standing next to a guy in blackface.
The Bible does explain it. The proof of a prophet is in whether his prophecies come true or not. For example, Kim Clement in 2007 to 2014 predicted that Trump would win the White House for two terms. This was before Trump was even a candidate. He predicted the impeachment push. He said that Trump would build a wall of protection around the U.S. He said that Trump would slay two giants, one being socialism. He would destroy the enemies of the U.S. and Israel. He said that the Democrats would try to put a witch in the White House.
It is amusing to be lectured on Christianity by people who might charitably be described as pagans and atheists or at best individuals not at all grounded in religious principles or biblical understanding.
http://www.propheciesofrevelation.or...ement-pg2.htmlLast edited by Erik Malmsten; Friday, 23rd October, 2020, 04:55 PM.
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This Hunter Biden story is one of the most hilariously stupid things I've ever seen:
1) Hunter Biden supposedly just dropped off a laptop full of incriminating stuff at some random store owned by a Trump supporter instead of going to an official Apple store
2) The Trump-supporting owner who believes in conspiracy theories like that the DNC assassinated Seth Rich was unable to actually identify who it was who dropped off the laptop
3) The person who dropped off the laptop full of incriminating stuff just never returned to pick it up, despite multiple attempts from the owner to contact him
4) The guy who wrote most of the NYPost story refused to put his name on the story because he had concerns over its credibility, another NYPost reporter also refused to put their name on it, and one of the people whose name actually is on the story didn't know until after the story was published
5) Multiple other people at the NYPost said that they didn't think that due diligence was done in verifying the story
6) They published PDFs created in 2019 instead of any actual metadata, so it's impossible to verify the authenticity of any of it
7) They've denied other media outlets who requested access to the files to try to verify their authenticity
8) Rudy Giuliani specifically said that he chose the NYPost because they wouldn't spend a lot of time to "try to contradict it before they put it out"
9) Fox News was first approached to run the story, but they refused to run the story until it could be properly vetted
10) A Republican committee literally released a report LAST MONTH that found no wrongdoing
11) There's supposedly all this terrible stuff done by the Biden's, but even though it was discovered in 2019 and seized by the FBI and sent to Giuliani and Bannon, it's conveniently only brought up a few weeks before the election
Then there's this Bobulinski thing, which even Fox News has instantly debunked: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...ered-questions
I don't know what's more amazing: that this is the best that they could do, or that people are actually gullible enough to believe it.
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Originally posted by Lucas Davies View PostThis Hunter Biden story is one of the most hilariously stupid things I've ever seen:
1) Hunter Biden supposedly just dropped off a laptop full of incriminating stuff at some random store owned by a Trump supporter instead of going to an official Apple store
2) The Trump-supporting owner who believes in conspiracy theories like that the DNC assassinated Seth Rich was unable to actually identify who it was who dropped off the laptop
3) The person who dropped off the laptop full of incriminating stuff just never returned to pick it up, despite multiple attempts from the owner to contact him
4) The guy who wrote most of the NYPost story refused to put his name on the story because he had concerns over its credibility, another NYPost reporter also refused to put their name on it, and one of the people whose name actually is on the story didn't know until after the story was published
5) Multiple other people at the NYPost said that they didn't think that due diligence was done in verifying the story
6) They published PDFs created in 2019 instead of any actual metadata, so it's impossible to verify the authenticity of any of it
7) They've denied other media outlets who requested access to the files to try to verify their authenticity
8) Rudy Giuliani specifically said that he chose the NYPost because they wouldn't spend a lot of time to "try to contradict it before they put it out"
9) Fox News was first approached to run the story, but they refused to run the story until it could be properly vetted
10) A Republican committee literally released a report LAST MONTH that found no wrongdoing
11) There's supposedly all this terrible stuff done by the Biden's, but even though it was discovered in 2019 and seized by the FBI and sent to Giuliani and Bannon, it's conveniently only brought up a few weeks before the election
Then there's this Bobulinski thing, which even Fox News has instantly debunked: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hun...ered-questions
I don't know what's more amazing: that this is the best that they could do, or that people are actually gullible enough to believe it.
The text messages indicate there was a discussion between Hunter Biden and Bobulinski about a meeting with Joe Biden.
According to the Post's reporting and Bobulinski, the proposed equity split referenced "20" for "H" and "10 held by H for the big guy?" with no further details.
"In that email, there is no question that 'H' stands for Hunter, 'big guy' for his father, Joe Biden, and Jim for Jim Biden," Bobulinski claimed Thursday in a statement he gave ahead of the second presidential debate, where he was President Trump's guest.
"In fact, Hunter often referred to his father as the big guy or 'my chairman.' On numerous occasions, it was made clear to me that Joe Biden's involvement was not to be mentioned in writing but only face-to-face. In fact, I was advised by [James] Gillier and [Rob] Walker that Hunter and Jim Biden were paranoid about keeping Joe Biden's involvement secret."
Bobulinski presented three phones on Thursday night that he claimed contained corroborating evidence and said he would be meeting with a Senate committee the following day.
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