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  • Kerry Liles
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    A different approach to immunization? A nasal spray that provides protection for several hours...

    https://sparkmed.stanford.edu/phase-...mmunity-agent/

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    FYI
    https://geozr4zgiy5e6jztggnl4nzv3e-a...onavaksinering

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  • Aris Marghetis
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    Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
    Some new rules that will have to be enforced when OTB chess returns and players speak to each other....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ctZPNppUt4
    Pargat, I laughed so hard that I had tears in my eyes, thanks!!

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Some new rules that will have to be enforced when OTB chess returns and players speak to each other....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ctZPNppUt4

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  • Dale Hoshizaki
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    I just got the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine on Sunday. We're having some difficulty with getting the vaccines into people, due mainly to inefficient health care bureaucracy as far as I can tell, so most of the ER physicians/nurses/hospital health care workers have not received anything yet...I was fortunate to be finishing a shift in the ER when a nearby nursing home called, saying they had a few doses left from the day's vaccinations, so I walked over with some of the nurses and got the shot. Went well, no side effects, just a slightly sore arm from the injection

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

    { Hmm. No spelling or grammatical errors. Punctuation looks ok. There is an unattributed quote but .... why quibble? Overall, appears to he well written.}

    Okay people!! Very funny. Who figured out Neil's password?
    Pandemic Peter ... strikes again!!!

    COVID-esque virus spreading from thread to thread ... LOOL!!!

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    They do work. Masks are meant to keep droplets inside the mask. They act as a barrier for spraying out droplets. Not as a shield from preventing droplets from coming in.

    But I do think those clear acrylic panels are almost a complete waste. Air circulation goes in all directions...

    “These barriers are designed to prevent large spray-born droplets, which are released when someone talks loudly or coughs at close range,” she told me. “But you also have to account for the smaller particles that can go around the plexiglass barrier and stay airborne for longer periods of time, which someone can still inhale.”

    ...that's why people should wear a mask! Keep as much of those 'large spray-born droplets' inside the mask as possible.
    { Hmm. No spelling or grammatical errors. Punctuation looks ok. There is an unattributed quote but .... why quibble? Overall, appears to he well written.}

    Okay people!! Very funny. Who figured out Neil's password?

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post

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    In the U.S. especially I fear that the uptake of the vaccine in the general population will be unacceptably low for the same reason Trump still managed to get 70 million votes.
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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post

    Aren't you making the assumption that people who have had Covid but have "recovered" are now immune? I am not sure I have seen that documented anywhere. It seems like a common assumption but I am not sure there is a lot of research on that. (please feel free to point to such information).
    If the first encounter did not produce immunity, we would have had about 600,000 cases of a second infection in USA. How many have been reported from that country? Less than 6? Or is it just 1?
    Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Saturday, 2nd January, 2021, 05:27 PM.

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  • Kerry Liles
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    Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

    Fauci says 70% immune could be considered herd immunity for COVID19.
    So given the rapidly rising percentage of those already infected once, multiplied by a factor to account for untested infected cases, and the fast pace of vaccination expected, all bode well for a big OTB chess tournament in the USA in mid 2021...
    Aren't you making the assumption that people who have had Covid but have "recovered" are now immune? I am not sure I have seen that documented anywhere. It seems like a common assumption but I am not sure there is a lot of research on that. (please feel free to point to such information).

    In the U.S. especially I fear that the uptake of the vaccine in the general population will be unacceptably low for the same reason Trump still managed to get 70 million votes.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

    Can you give us your benchmark numbers for achieving herd immunity?
    Fauci says 70% immune could be considered herd immunity for COVID19.
    So given the rapidly rising percentage of those already infected once, multiplied by a factor to account for untested infected cases, and the fast pace of vaccination expected, all bode well for a big OTB chess tournament in the USA in mid 2021...

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
    Herd immunity is well on its way in the US...should be achieved in early 2021...
    Well, it's early 2021 now, and yesterday (Jan 1) numbers reported

    USA
    new cases 166,044
    new deaths 2,129

    Canada
    new cases 2,129
    new deaths - none

    being a holiday, it is likely numbers for Jan 1 are underreported?

    Can you give us your benchmark numbers for achieving herd immunity?
    When will Canada achieve herd immunity?

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Herd immunity is well on its way in the US...should be achieved in early 2021...
    Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Saturday, 2nd January, 2021, 11:33 AM.

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  • Lucas Davies
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    Those were the same health professionals who said masks were not useful before they said they were.

    If masks worked, we would have beat the virus. I wear mine whenever I am out in public but I am not stupid enough to think that it offers any protection. No one else should be under that illusion. The virus is spreading not because people are not wearing masks. It is spreading because that's what a virus does. I do get irritated when people violate social distancing which they do all the time.
    That's like saying that seatbelts don't work because people still die in car accidents. Masks don't eliminate the spread of the virus; they mitigate it, and if everyone consistently wears them when appropriate, it significantly reduces the spread. Even if they did have 100% effectiveness then we still wouldn't have beaten the virus because of the enormous number of people who refuse to wear them. You can easily find multiple meta-analyses that show the effectiveness of masks, e.g. https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...77893920302301

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    If masks worked,
    They do work. Masks are meant to keep droplets inside the mask. They act as a barrier for spraying out droplets. Not as a shield from preventing droplets from coming in.

    But I do think those clear acrylic panels are almost a complete waste. Air circulation goes in all directions...

    “These barriers are designed to prevent large spray-born droplets, which are released when someone talks loudly or coughs at close range,” she told me. “But you also have to account for the smaller particles that can go around the plexiglass barrier and stay airborne for longer periods of time, which someone can still inhale.”

    ...that's why people should wear a mask! Keep as much of those 'large spray-born droplets' inside the mask as possible.





    Last edited by Neil Frarey; Thursday, 31st December, 2020, 04:48 PM.

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