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    This meeting, which was organized by the Planning and Development Committee (PDC), took place in Mexico City from February 10 to February 12th. The most interesting part of this meeting was the participation of the leaders of FIDE, including Arkady Dvorkovich and Victor Bologan. When I decided to attend the meeting, my priority was to get the opportunity to create relations with representatives of American Federations and, of course, with the president of the FIDE. The 2 days spent convening were sufficient for this. Hal Bond was also present at these meetings, as a member of the PDC, and I am thankful that he introduced to me to many members of the committee who he has known for a long time.

    Behind the scenes, there was a hidden conversation about the upcoming election for the president of the American Federation. Incumbent president Mr. Jorge Vega from Guatemala has held this position for nearly 20 years, and he's currently 86 years old. Despite his age, he continues to have a wide base of support, especially from Spanish-speaking countries. However, many who discussed the topic with me addressed a dislike of this situation.

    This meeting was mainly meant to discuss the diverse practices involved in financing FIDE events and help for developing countries in uplifting chess. I would like note that this event was well-attended, but a delegate from the US was not present. It seemed to me as though they don't find this sort of event to be of importance.

    One such segment involved each representative being given the opportunity to talk about the ideal path for the future of the FIDE, from their point of view.

    I used this opportunity to express my view of what the priorities should be.

    Throughout the last few years, the FIDE has achieved great progress in the development of elite chess. The World Championship cycle is held routinely and successfully, with adequate funding for all stages of each event. Most important to me is to make the so-called 'chess pyramid' wider, as opposed to taller. This means improving the horizontal connections between different parts of the chess world. This can happen through holding more university tournaments, corporate tournaments, and senior events globally.

    In order to pique the interest of the other representatives in what I was saying, I asked everyone a question: amongst the 100th players from each country in the world, after Russia, which has the highest rating? After many incorrect guesses (India, China, US...), someone finally said, 'Germany,' which was the correct answer. It is the German model, with its many tournaments and strong clubs, which seems to be optimal overall. From my personal experience, at several World Team Seniors Championships, there have always been many strong teams from Germany.


    I also would like to note that many delegates from South America find it somewhat difficult to communicate in English. Perhaps it would be wise for the next CFC FIDE Representative to speak Spanish.

    Many delegates were able to speak one-on-one with FIDE President Dvorkovich. My discussion with him touched on the following points.


    1. Initially, we talked about the difficult times in which we find ourselves and the tough decisions that the FIDE president has had to make as a result of the situation with COVID. We briefly discussed the 2 year-length of the candidates tournament and the online Olympiad of 2020, in which there were two gold medal winners, India and Russia. Dvorkovich stated that being Russian was difficult in this situation because he feared his own biases in this case. Though this is no longer relevant, we nonetheless addressed the upcoming Olympiad in Moscow 2022 (the discussion took place before the war). For the record, I told Dvorkovich that I foresaw the chances of a possible boycott from certain western countries, especially the US and UK. Dvorkovich himself saw the Olympiad and the FIDE Congress in Moscow as the pinnacle of his presidency.

    2. When the FIDE considers sponsoring federations, it looks at a list which categorizes every country in the world by its chess ranking and economic development. Of course, Canada belongs to the first division, who receive no aid from the FIDE. Without suggesting flaws in these ultimately logical categorizations, I tried to convince Dvorkovich that unfortunately, the Canadian federation finds itself in the worst position of all federations in the first division. Canadian achievements in the chess world are largely due to the successes of immigrants, who arrived in Canada as accomplished chess players and garnered their skills elsewhere. The number of strong tournaments in Canada continues to fall much below the number in most other countries in the aforementioned first division.

    3. We also addressed the upcoming election of FIDE America's president. Dvorkovich and I are both unhappy with this situation, in which there has been only one president for the last 20 years. Dvorkovich said that he believes that a president should not be able to hold their position for more than 2 terms, of 4 years each. He considers this to be best on all levels of presidency, which is why he intends to run again in 2022, but not in 2026.


    4. At the end of our discussion, we briefly touched upon the appointment of Canadian arbiters for the upcoming Olympiad.

    In my separate conversation with FIDE Executive Director Victor Bologan, we also discussed the same thing that Dvorkovich and I talked about in point 2. I believe it is most practical for the pyramid that is Canadian chess to be widened.

    Overall, the PDC did a great job organizing this event. My thanks to chairperson of PDC Sonja Johnson.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Victor Plotkin View Post
    This meeting, which was organized by the Planning and Development Committee (PDC), took place in Mexico City from February 10 to February 12th. The most interesting part of this meeting was the participation of the leaders of FIDE, including Arkady Dvorkovich and Victor Bologan. When I decided to attend the meeting, my priority was to get the opportunity to create relations with representatives of American Federations and, of course, with the president of the FIDE. The 2 days spent convening were sufficient for this. Hal Bond was also present at these meetings, as a member of the PDC, and I am thankful that he introduced to me to many members of the committee who he has known for a long time.

    Behind the scenes, there was a hidden conversation about the upcoming election for the president of the American Federation. Incumbent president Mr. Jorge Vega from Guatemala has held this position for nearly 20 years, and he's currently 86 years old. Despite his age, he continues to have a wide base of support, especially from Spanish-speaking countries. However, many who discussed the topic with me addressed a dislike of this situation.

    This meeting was mainly meant to discuss the diverse practices involved in financing FIDE events and help for developing countries in uplifting chess. I would like note that this event was well-attended, but a delegate from the US was not present. It seemed to me as though they don't find this sort of event to be of importance.

    One such segment involved each representative being given the opportunity to talk about the ideal path for the future of the FIDE, from their point of view.

    I used this opportunity to express my view of what the priorities should be.

    Throughout the last few years, the FIDE has achieved great progress in the development of elite chess. The World Championship cycle is held routinely and successfully, with adequate funding for all stages of each event. Most important to me is to make the so-called 'chess pyramid' wider, as opposed to taller. This means improving the horizontal connections between different parts of the chess world. This can happen through holding more university tournaments, corporate tournaments, and senior events globally.

    In order to pique the interest of the other representatives in what I was saying, I asked everyone a question: amongst the 100th players from each country in the world, after Russia, which has the highest rating? After many incorrect guesses (India, China, US...), someone finally said, 'Germany,' which was the correct answer. It is the German model, with its many tournaments and strong clubs, which seems to be optimal overall. From my personal experience, at several World Team Seniors Championships, there have always been many strong teams from Germany.


    I also would like to note that many delegates from South America find it somewhat difficult to communicate in English. Perhaps it would be wise for the next CFC FIDE Representative to speak Spanish.

    Many delegates were able to speak one-on-one with FIDE President Dvorkovich. My discussion with him touched on the following points.


    1. Initially, we talked about the difficult times in which we find ourselves and the tough decisions that the FIDE president has had to make as a result of the situation with COVID. We briefly discussed the 2 year-length of the candidates tournament and the online Olympiad of 2020, in which there were two gold medal winners, India and Russia. Dvorkovich stated that being Russian was difficult in this situation because he feared his own biases in this case. Though this is no longer relevant, we nonetheless addressed the upcoming Olympiad in Moscow 2022 (the discussion took place before the war). For the record, I told Dvorkovich that I foresaw the chances of a possible boycott from certain western countries, especially the US and UK. Dvorkovich himself saw the Olympiad and the FIDE Congress in Moscow as the pinnacle of his presidency.

    2. When the FIDE considers sponsoring federations, it looks at a list which categorizes every country in the world by its chess ranking and economic development. Of course, Canada belongs to the first division, who receive no aid from the FIDE. Without suggesting flaws in these ultimately logical categorizations, I tried to convince Dvorkovich that unfortunately, the Canadian federation finds itself in the worst position of all federations in the first division. Canadian achievements in the chess world are largely due to the successes of immigrants, who arrived in Canada as accomplished chess players and garnered their skills elsewhere. The number of strong tournaments in Canada continues to fall much below the number in most other countries in the aforementioned first division.

    3. We also addressed the upcoming election of FIDE America's president. Dvorkovich and I are both unhappy with this situation, in which there has been only one president for the last 20 years. Dvorkovich said that he believes that a president should not be able to hold their position for more than 2 terms, of 4 years each. He considers this to be best on all levels of presidency, which is why he intends to run again in 2022, but not in 2026.


    4. At the end of our discussion, we briefly touched upon the appointment of Canadian arbiters for the upcoming Olympiad.

    In my separate conversation with FIDE Executive Director Victor Bologan, we also discussed the same thing that Dvorkovich and I talked about in point 2. I believe it is most practical for the pyramid that is Canadian chess to be widened.

    Overall, the PDC did a great job organizing this event. My thanks to chairperson of PDC Sonja Johnson.
    Excellent report!
    Very well-written, touched on a lot of important points.

    I too would like to see more Canadian arbiters in
    international action - I have encouraged half a
    dozen to work at becoming IA's and am delighted
    to see some of them already FA's, and one almost
    achieving his IA title (just 1 norm left!)

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    • #3
      Thanks so much, Victor, for your excellent report on this important meeting.

      Of course, many aspects of international chess have changed beyond measure since this meeting took place, due to Russia's war with Ukraine.

      Likely, there is no sporting activity on the planet where Russia plays such a major role as it does with chess.

      I believe it would be horrifically disastrous for the future of world chess if we were to continue with a Russian in charge of FIDE. So, the upcoming election for president at the FIDE Congress in India, to be held in conjunction with the 2022 Olympiad, is shaping up as an especially important one.

      A strong alternative candidate to the incumbent must be found, and supported. That has to be the top priority.

      No one should be fooled into believing that non-Russian business enterprises would be interested in sponsoring future significant chess activities, with a Russian in charge of FIDE.

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      • #4
        Thanks Victor.

        Frank, sorry, but punishing people from a country because of the actions of their government doesn't hold water for me provided they have publicly denounced the actions of their government.

        Larry
        Last edited by Larry Bevand; Sunday, 3rd April, 2022, 06:53 PM.

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        • #5
          Given Western sanctions, I am concerned about the future of International chess if a world sports body, after the invasion, elects a Russian national as its president, regardless of the personal position of that Russian national. Will the Western world be willing to deal at all with FIDE?

          And it is the case that general sanctions bite hardest on the ordinary working class national of that country......loss of staples, runaway inflation, loss of savings, etc.

          We have seen how effective this was against the ordinary person of Cuba, since the start of the USA Cuban blockade. The ordinary Cuban is poor.

          Is the point of general sanctions to drive the ordinary citizen so low, that they then initiate, from the inside, a revolution to overthrow the leadership of their country, to get out from under international sanctions??

          ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
            Given Western sanctions, I am concerned about the future of International chess if a world sports body, after the invasion, elects a Russian national as its president, regardless of the personal position of that Russian national. Will the Western world be willing to deal at all with FIDE?

            And it is the case that general sanctions bite hardest on the ordinary working class national of that country......loss of staples, runaway inflation, loss of savings, etc.

            We have seen how effective this was against the ordinary person of Cuba, since the start of the USA Cuban blockade. The ordinary Cuban is poor.

            Is the point of general sanctions to drive the ordinary citizen so low, that they then initiate, from the inside, a revolution to overthrow the leadership of their country, to get out from under international sanctions??

            ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
            Many of the "ordinary" people in Canada (and the U.S. and U.K.) are actually poor too - depending on your or their definition of "poor".

            It is clear that many of the people of Russia do not support the "war/invasion" and I am sure that if the real information was available in Russia that number would reach a huge percentage of the population. Putin is a war criminal and I hope he and his gang of thugs/generals are captured and tried for war crimes and executed.

            The real question is not the President/leadership of FIDE but whether it can be seen as an international organization where the citizenship of the President and Executives can be seen to be irrelevant. Not sure about that - there is a lot of backlash against anything Russian - much of which is stupid in my opinion. REAL sanctions against the country/leadership/oligarchs is fine, but banning vodka or the stacking wooden dolls is just pathetic.
            ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Larry Bevand View Post
              Thanks Victor.

              Frank, sorry, but punishing people from a country because of the actions of their government doesn't hold water for me provided they have publicly denounced the actions of their government.

              Larry
              Of course it's a very contentious matter but I'm with Frank on this. Say it's 1939/40: would/should the world have stood for a prominent member of the Krupp family being president of the International Red Cross?

              p.s. The West should be resolved to be unwaveringly tough. Not threaten actions and then water them down or worse, back down entirely.
              Last edited by Peter McKillop; Monday, 4th April, 2022, 02:21 PM.
              "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
              "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
              "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
                ....

                It is clear that many of the people of Russia do not support the "war/invasion" ....
                I don't think that's clear at this point. When this is over and done with I'm guessing there will be a lot of Russians trotting out the "we didn't know" excuse as in post-WWII Germany.
                "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                • #9
                  The Position of the Russian Public

                  Shaken at First, Many Russians Now Rally Behind Putin’s Invasion

                  Polls and interviews show many Russians now accept the Kremlin’s assertion that their country is under siege from the West. Opponents are leaving the country or keeping quiet.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/w...ouPv4TftXWkqL4

                  ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

                    I don't think that's clear at this point. When this is over and done with I'm guessing there will be a lot of Russians trotting out the "we didn't know" excuse as in post-WWII Germany.
                    Well I was making that leap from the number of people who seem willing to be arrested for protesting the war/invasion.
                    That must take a lot of courage (or stupidity) since the police in Russia seem to enjoy treating people badly.
                    Of course, we in the west are as much in the dark about the real situation in Russia as they seem to be about the real situation in Ukraine.
                    No doubt Putin's barrage of fake news will rival Trump and Fix News...

                    Of course, whenever this conflict is over there will be many people who say "what conflict?" etc.
                    The small number of Russian people I know are adamant that the information available to the average person there is state-controlled rubbish.
                    I am incredulous that people can somehow not know what is really going on, but then I watch OUR news and question everything here too.
                    ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                      The Position of the Russian Public

                      Shaken at First, Many Russians Now Rally Behind Putin’s Invasion

                      Polls and interviews show many Russians now accept the Kremlin’s assertion that their country is under siege from the West. Opponents are leaving the country or keeping quiet.

                      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/w...ouPv4TftXWkqL4

                      ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
                      I no longer trust the New York Times to be unbiased. Having said that, they may be right about polls (although I wonder about the validity of those polls) and most certainly they are right that many people are keeping quiet or just regurgitating the state propaganda (reminds me a lot of China).
                      ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                      • #12
                        North American Chess Association should be formed right quick.

                        Our own GM titles our own IM titles and our own Master titles too.

                        End FIDE narcissism ... you're drowning in it.

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