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The game can be followed here...Originally posted by Henri Hughes View Post
https://www.chess.com/game/daily/475189377
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hmmm, I decided to look it up...Originally posted by Fred Harvey View Post
How Many Angels Can Dance on the Head of a Pin – Meaning, Origin and Usage - English-Grammar-Lessons.com
This is a new one for me. Either we are engaging in unimportant debate, or the question has no answer.
The only question I asked was "Why should chess get preferential treatment? (over crosswords or learning a new language). No one can provide a good reason, and therefore my question is answered. And yes, for that reason the debate becomes unimportant (to me).
Thanks for your help.Last edited by Fred Henderson; Thursday, 16th February, 2023, 06:09 PM.Comment
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If you don't see any difference between those activities, what we could discuss :)Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post
Language - Canadians (maybe too wide, let's say just Ontarians, or even just GTAs) barely learn the second official language, and you want to throw foreign on top. Good luck with that.
Crosswords - a good pastime spending activity, though lacking the sporting aspect. Solving chess problems would be on a similar level. There are championships too, and well as composing competitions. Do you know any champion? :) Me neither :)
Maybe we got lucky but our children teachers had chess "classes" as part of their curriculum, and chess clubs at school.Comment
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LOL. I was thinking much that same. I think. I had to morph the definition a bit to suit my purposes.Originally posted by Fred Harvey View Post
Glad to be of help....I think!
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That was definitely not my point. Sure the activities are different. What has yet to be proven is whether the benefit each gives to brainpower is different. Where is it shown (or proven!) that chess is more beneficial to brain health than the other activities? I have already made posts quoting experts in the field. All of the games/activities mentioned boost brainpower. See my point now?Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostComment
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It would wind down how much kids/adults would participate in the activity, how seriously, and what for. Also it depends on kids what they want to do. Some would play soccer all day long, other would learn the Queen's gambit instead.Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post
Also goes to who would provide those activities. While I run a chess club volunteerly, I'm not interested in helping with the sudoku club, though I solve them in spare time.
Chess has a good aura in its tradition and spread.
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I haven't looked through any of this in detail but here's another link which may lead you to something useful (links leading to links etc.).Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post
https://chessineducation.org/research-4/"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De QuinceyComment
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on the home page we have...Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
"The website is a part of the CIE Initiative operated by Chess in Schools, a non-profit US [501(c)(3)] corporation, in collaboration with the CIE Coalition, a group of several commercial and other non-profit organizations with a shared interest in advancing CIE."
under the heading "Compendiums and Recent Papers" we have ...
"Rather than maintain an exhaustive list of research papers, this site provides a few links what we consider to be particularly noteworthy recent Chess in Education studies as well as compendiums of CIE research on other websites."
LOL. These guys sound like a "News Re-broadcasting" service or something. ;)
I took a quick look at the papers presented, they were all ftom ivory tower journals of education. Small control groups. They do not address the issue I am raising, which is "Is chess better at "boosting brainpower" than any of the other activities.
Thanks for that one. :)Last edited by Fred Henderson; Tuesday, 21st February, 2023, 02:37 PM.Comment
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Here's a link to paper titled "Chess Practice as a preventative factor in Dementia, published 2019 by the \National Institure of Health (National Library of Medicine).
I give you the conclusion and the link.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6617066/
5. Conclusions
Despite all the benefits listed throughout this review, and despite the data existing against their positive effects being scarce, the evidence is currently not strong enough to infer a direct causal relationship or recommend one leisure activity over the other [36]. Thus, chess could be considered a protective factor against dementia and cognitive decline in older people, particularly due to the enhancement of cognitive reserve. However, skill-based activities rather than those mainly depending on general intelligence seem to be more convenient, since its implementation appears to be not as challenging in a population with special characteristics such patients with dementia, where skill learning is still a possibility [12].
Given this perspective and current evidence, there is no doubt that more controlled trials are needed to assess the protective effect of cognitive activities on the risk of dementia [37], though even more for diagnosed populations. These trials must be run over significantly long times and assess different variables, to get a view of the effect of these factors in protecting dementia in the long run. This effortful activity is recommended due to the incapacity of detecting the disease in the early stages. Even the most recent evidence suggests that the disease manifests around 18 years after the onset [38]. This may be the way to provide mental activities and exercising with their proper part in AD and dementia approach and to set the starting point for their systematic implementation in prevention and treatment.
Considering our results, the practice of chess is a protective strategy in the development of dementia from a preventive perspective, and even though the evidence is weak to demonstrate its role as a protective factor, other evidence indirectly related to chess and based on its cognitive stimulating functions suggest it may work as a protective factor.
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A scholarly article, published 2014 in The National Library of Medicine/National Center for Biotechnology Information.
On the effect of chess training on scholastic achievement - PMC (nih.gov)
The opening paragraph...
What are the effects of chess training—especially on scholastic achievement among school-aged students? Can chess instruction facilitate the acquisition of scholastic competency? The current state of the research literature is that chess training tends not to provide educational benefits. This article provides a critical review of research on the effects of chess training on the scholastic achievement levels of school-aged students.
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from the paper...Originally posted by Fred Henderson View Post
Various studies and conference presentations (e.g., Christiaen and Verholfstadt, 1978; Liptrap, 1998; Bart and Atherton, 2004) provided results in support of the educational benefits of chess instruction in the schools. Gobet and Campitelli (2006) reviewed that research and reached the following conclusions: (a) the educational effects of optional scholastic chess training remain undetermined; (b) compulsory scholastic chess instruction may engender motivational problems among students; and (c) chess instruction may be beneficial among novices, but is less important among intermediate and advanced players for whom the amount of practice and the acquisition of knowledge are of paramount importance. Gobet et al. (2004) contended that such conclusions are in line with the view of de Groot (1977, 1978) that educational benefits of chess instruction are likely “low-level gains” such as improvements in attention and concentration and interest in learning, rather than “high-level gains” such as improvements in intelligence, scholastic achievement, and creativity.
Has anybody read this paper No comment from this crowd?
It pretty much confirms what I said earlier in this threadLast edited by Fred Henderson; Thursday, 8th August, 2024, 10:48 AM.Comment
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Your move: The effect of chess on mathematics test scores - PMC (nih.gov)
Abstract
We analyse the effect of substituting a weekly mathematics lesson in primary school grades 1–3 with a lesson in mathematics based on chess instruction. We use data from the City of Aarhus in Denmark, combining test score data with a comprehensive data set obtained from administrative registers. We use two different methodological approaches to identify and estimate treatment effects and we tend to find positive effects, indicating that knowledge acquired through chess play can be transferred to the domain of mathematics. We also find larger impacts for unhappy children and children who are bored in school, perhaps because chess instruction facilitates learning by providing an alternative approach to mathematics for these children. The results are encouraging and suggest that chess may be an important and effective tool for improving mathematical capacity in young students.
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