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Anyone have any definitive links for the specifications for pgn format? Of course, using Google I can search and find a lot of links to 'apparent' specifications. The devil is in the details: what are acceptable format(s) for embedded comments or sub-variations and the like?
I suppose pgn is just an ad hoc notation and perhaps there is no proper specification? I was wondering what others have found for the best working definition?
I recall sometimes copying a pgn for a game and attempting to feed it into various programs that *claim* to understand pgn, only to find that the program chokes on something or other. Of course, editing the pgn file is easy if annoying...
Anyone have any definitive links for the specifications for pgn format? Of course, using Google I can search and find a lot of links to 'apparent' specifications. The devil is in the details: what are acceptable format(s) for embedded comments or sub-variations and the like?
I suppose pgn is just an ad hoc notation and perhaps there is no proper specification? I was wondering what others have found for the best working definition?
http://www.saremba.de/chessgml/stand...n-complete.htm Standard: Portable Game Notation Specification and Implementation Guide
Authors: Interested readers of the Internet newsgroup rec.games.chess
Coordinator: Steven J. Edwards
I don't think that there is a more official description. Maybe FIDE could push it into ISO :)
http://www.saremba.de/chessgml/stand...n-complete.htm Standard: Portable Game Notation Specification and Implementation Guide
Authors: Interested readers of the Internet newsgroup rec.games.chess
Coordinator: Steven J. Edwards
I don't think that there is a more official description. Maybe FIDE could push it into ISO :)
Oops: rec.games.chess is a cesspool; looking for nuggets of value in there is a pretty hard job. I have given up even looking at the headers. In fact, rec.*.chess is a complete wasteland: sort of like the Ottawa Chess Club forum or these forums before registration became a requirement (although that didn't solve the problem completely) ...
Thanks for the saremba.de link; I'll check it out.
Oops: rec.games.chess is a cesspool; looking for nuggets of value in there is a pretty hard job. I have given up even looking at the headers. In fact, rec.*.chess is a complete wasteland: sort of like the Ottawa Chess Club forum or these forums before registration became a requirement (although that didn't solve the problem completely) ...
Thanks for the saremba.de link; I'll check it out.
Maybe now your statements are right. But in 199x some of their writers managed to create PGN :)
I looked into groups history - the oldest message about PGN+standard 1993 December:
"The "format" is called Portable Game Notation. No database reads .PGN directly at present, nor frankly is there any DOCUMENTATION for this standard.
There is a program call PGNREAD that attempts to address the standard as it has been (in ad hoc fashion) implemented. Any attempt I've made to use PGNREAD results in nothing happening; moreover, many of the PGNREAD archives available are crippled. Stephen J. Edwards, author of the Standard Algebraic Notation Toolkit (The san toolkit, available on my BBS) mentions the .PGN standard, in fact created it, but documentation of this "standard" is nonexistant.
My general impression is that hell will freeze over before it is documented. Clearly documenting PGN is way way WAY down on sje's list of
things to do.
And as long as the "standard" definition resides more in sje's imagination than any other place, there will be scarcely any reason for any chess database to support it." http://groups.google.com/group/rec.g...a10e26aa93b82f
Seems you read or thought in a similar way :)
Last edited by Egidijus Zeromskis; Tuesday, 27th October, 2009, 09:38 PM.
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