Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open - A CFC Subsidy?

Hi Kerry:

I think it also should be noted that this course is income-generating in future to the graduates - they do get a return on their investment.

Bob

[Kerry Liles]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open - A CFC Subsidy?

Hi Hal:

As an executive member, and FIDE Rep., what is your position on CFC giving a $100 to each of the 10 registrants towards their registration fee of $ 200 ( on the condition they are CFC members in good standing ), as proposed by some on this board?

Can CFC afford $ 1,000 for this item?

Is this money benefitting a sufficient number of people that it is achieving CFC objectives and getting good bang for the buck?

Bob

Perhaps an important question to ask is: What does the CFC get in return? I haven't seen a discussion of any responsibility on the people who take the course. They may or may not ever use it, but I suppose the assumption is that they will make use of it sooner or later?

[Bob Armstrong]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open - A CFC Subsidy?

Hi Hal:

As an executive member, and FIDE Rep., what is your position on CFC giving a $100 to each of the 10 registrants towards their registration fee of $ 200 ( on the condition they are CFC members in good standing ), as proposed by some on this board?

Can CFC afford $ 1,000 for this item?

Is this money benefitting a sufficient number of people that it is achieving CFC objectives and getting good bang for the buck?

Bob

[Hal Bond]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

I believe this is an excellent opportunity for aspiring TD's to earn this compulsory FA norm. I was most pleased that the organizing committee for this year's Canadian Open was receptive to the idea. Last year in Edmonton they considered it but ultimately the seminar did not happen. The reason for the cost is that we don't yet have a FIDE lecturer in Canada. I will be assisting the lecturer this year, after which I will (hopefully) become a certified FIDE lecturer.

FIDE is tightening its rules about FIDE rated tournaments. Titled arbiters are becoming more and more important. Within a few years all FIDE rated tournaments will require at least an FA as chief arbiter.

[Christopher Mallon]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

I'm all for training arbiters properly in Canada. A $1000, one-time expenditure is very minor in the grand scheme of things.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

Since you asked, I'd prefer to spend the $1000 to get Hal or someone else from Canada certified to teach the course. More of a long-term investment, it would make future seminars much more affordable.

It seems we're not discussing the willingness to spend $1000. We seem to be discussing on whom it will be spent.

[Christopher Mallon]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

Since you asked, I'd prefer to spend the $1000 to get Hal or someone else from Canada certified to teach the course. More of a long-term investment, it would make future seminars much more affordable.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

The CFC already pays for the title application fee. You also get an automatic Honorary membership if you go on to being an IA. That's a pretty good subsidy.

Does that mean you're for or against paying $100.00 for each person taking the course?

I'm a correspondence IA. All I got was a certificate plus a nice pin.

[Christopher Mallon]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

The CFC already pays for the title application fee. You also get an automatic Honorary membership if you go on to being an IA. That's a pretty good subsidy.

[Gary Ruben]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

I hope the CFC at least makes sure they subsidize the cost for applicants who actually ARE current CFC members.

Where will the CFC get the money to subsidize a FIDE arbtier program? Last I heard the Olympic team or teams were the priority. For 10 students it would cost $1,000.00.

How many new FIDE arbiters would we need in Canada? Wouldn't that mean events would have to charge for CFC and FIDE rating fees?

[Kerry Liles]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

:) This is an excellent idea. The Canadian Open venue is the perfect time to hold such a TD training clinic. Bolstering our ranks of Canadian FA's will aid in our capacity to hold quality tournaments.

Perhaps the CFC would consider sponsoring such an event.
Not 100%, but maybe splitting the costs 50/50. Participants pay $100 instead of $200.

What do you think? :)

I hope the CFC at least makes sure they subsidize the cost for applicants who actually ARE current CFC members.

[Caesar Posylek]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

:) This is an excellent idea. The Canadian Open venue is the perfect time to hold such a TD training clinic. Bolstering our ranks of Canadian FA's will aid in our capacity to hold quality tournaments.

Perhaps the CFC would consider sponsoring such an event.
Not 100%, but maybe splitting the costs 50/50. Participants pay $100 instead of $200.

What do you think? :)

No doubts, this is a good idea. I confirm that.

[Christopher Mallon]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

I thought Hal was going to try to get certified to do these things. Not sure what happened with that.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

Not 100%, but maybe splitting the costs 50/50. Participants pay $100 instead of $200.

What do you think? :)

Positively.

[Caesar Posylek]

Re: Arbiter Training at Canadian Open

:) This is an excellent idea. The Canadian Open venue is the perfect time to hold such a TD training clinic. Bolstering our ranks of Canadian FA's will aid in our capacity to hold quality tournaments.

Perhaps the CFC would consider sponsoring such an event.
Not 100%, but maybe splitting the costs 50/50. Participants pay $100 instead of $200.

What do you think? :)

I think that everything will clear up in practice. Lets see!

:)