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    I had a couple of ideas about how the CFC could restructure itself for the Internet age. But it seemed that the RFP framework could also result in an economic CFC that was closer to the status quo. The RFP seems to have gone by the wayside (?), so here is my plan, in brief.

    One person, whom I will call the RG (so as not to confuse it with any existing job title) opens a post box. This must be in a major city so that if the RG retires, we can recruit a new RG and not change the CFC's permanent address. The RG picks up the mail, puts everything through a scanner, deposits all cheques. He emails the scanned work to be done to the people who do the work (!). Those people could be anywhere.

    Here's some inspiration from the real world:

    1. The internet magazine Chess Today has more than one editor, and more than one typesetter. This allows work to be shared and distributed. For example, typically one typesetter takes a week, then the other takes the next week.

    2. Both ICC and Playchess have online currency (chekels and ducats, respectively).

    By extension, the CFC would have more than one person capable of doing each of the jobs (even the RG's). In the event of vacation, illness, firing, dereliction, what-have-you, the result would not be chaos, but a smooth transfer.

    It would be handy for the CFC to have a currency system (which I will call choonies) as part of an improved accounting / website / rating / membership (if desired) system (obviously with security and multiply-redundant backups, etc). One route would be to develop its own (and license it to other organizations to raise badly needed funds!). Another would be to work out a deal with one of the online sites (ICC or Playchess).

    With no rent to pay, the CFC could one again afford to give organizers commissions on memberships and even rating fees remitted. In my Universe, this would come to the RG via mail in advance, with accounting done in choonies. In my Universe, everything would be done by Internet, email, and post. But the system could stand even PayPal (yuk), credit cards, fax, and telephone, at a cost.

    In less than 19 days, CFC President David Lavin will present his restructuring plan. I have no idea what it will contain. But I feel better for having presented these ideas.

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    Re: CFC - A way forward

    N.B. Another major chess organization in Canada DOES offer a hefty commission to the Organizer/TD when he/she collects an annual membership fee at one of their events!

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      Originally posted by Aris Marghetis View Post
      N.B. Another major chess organization in Canada DOES offer a hefty commission to the Organizer/TD when he/she collects an annual membership fee at one of their events!
      Kindly elucidate. Nobody ever pays me nuthin'.

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        Originally posted by John Coleman View Post
        Kindly elucidate. Nobody ever pays me nuthin'.
        From what I understand, Quebec (FQE). If I'm mistaken, feel free to correct me! ;)

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          Originally posted by Aris Marghetis View Post
          From what I understand, Quebec (FQE). If I'm mistaken, feel free to correct me! ;)
          If we are looking for a model that works, we better look elsewhere. North America (Canada + US) is the Third World of Chess! The chess situation in these two countries is simply getting worse and worse. It is not even developping, it is simply undevelopped! Chess works much better almost everywhere else. With today's means of communication there is no excuse anymore to overlook excellent chess models elsewhere and simply pretend that here "things are different" and look the other way.

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            Feel free to elaborate

            Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
            ... there is no excuse anymore to overlook excellent chess models elsewhere and simply pretend that here "things are different" and look the other way.
            I know that Argentina, for example, has a large mass membership with a very low annual fee. Some countries have much better government support. In Britain, they seem to be considering a more Canadian set-up with respect to fees and they are having their own problems.

            Perhaps it would be helpful to provide a few more details about those excellent models elsewhere, Jean. Feel free to elaborate.
            Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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              Re: Feel free to elaborate

              Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post

              Perhaps it would be helpful to provide a few more details about those excellent models elsewhere, Jean. Feel free to elaborate.
              Helpful for whom ? Who is involved in organizing and listening ? I now know from experience that most people have to find their own answers by themselves. Otherwise they kind of resent you for "having all the answers" and do as they wish anyway. If they consult you, it is to get approval. Period. Of course I don't have all the answers, but I see, for example, how Open tournaments are organised in Europe and see no reason why we keep doing things differently here with little success.

              When I mentionned "excellent models" I was not referring to any chess federations in particular because in my view most of them are dysfonctionnal by nature. They mostly care about their own survival and usually forget about their primary mission.

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                Re: Feel free to elaborate

                OK, I didn't want to put you on the spot. I just read your remarks and figured you would be willing to add to them.

                Jean Hébert: I see, for example, how Open tournaments are organised in Europe and see no reason why we keep doing things differently here with little success.
                If you were willing to add to this, for example, I would find that helpful.

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                A little while ago I stumbled upon a discussion at the Streatham and Brixton Chess Club blog (in England) . Jonathan Berry made a few remarks there as well. There were some good ideas there, as they are in the process of evaluating their current practices. I reccommend having a look.
                Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                  Re: Feel free to elaborate

                  Originally posted by Nigel Hanrahan View Post
                  A little while ago I stumbled upon a discussion at the Streatham and Brixton Chess Club blog (in England) . ... I recommend having a look.
                  Could add the link. (lazy to google)

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                    Re: Feel free to elaborate

                    Discussion at the Streathan & Brixton Chess Club about ECF resignations.

                    Egidijus - you might have to search around this and other related threads at their blog to get the whole discussion, but it is worth the effort.
                    Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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                      Jean and Nigel are both right! If people pay you nothing, or very little, or a whole sledload of money, what they want is confirmation of their own plans. Unless you're being paid a moderate amount for advice, it is ignored.

                      So feel free to ignore this gratis advice. The Euro (excluding the UK) models tend to rely on chess clubs. A player belongs to the national federation through the club. How that would translate to highly-individualistic North America is anybody's guess. It might be just the glue we need. And for those of us who are loners, we could have a Buen Vestido Anti-Social Chess Club, with no meeting place and thus no geographical limits.

                      Since this is gratis, I'm free to have a bit of fun with it. "Buen Vestido" literally means "well-dressed" (thank you, Frank Veszely, for your campaign of "dressing up for chess"), but I wouldn't use the expression in the name of a real organization without asking a native Spanish speaker first. Do those two words carry even the slightest hint of transvestism? I haven't done that since doing a sendup of opera diva Joan Sutherland at a "talent" show at age 10. Smile.

                      If that doesn't work, the next idea is "Lefthanders' Chess Club".

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                        Originally posted by Jonathan Berry View Post

                        If that doesn't work, the next idea is "Lefthanders' Chess Club".
                        I'm still working on my over the board club and federation. The Inner Galactic Chess Federation. It's open to the entire Milky Way, however, I only expect new members and growth to come from Planet Earth.

                        So far WE have only one member. Myself. I am a member, CEO and I own the Federation. It was my idea and it's MINE, MINE, MINE!!!

                        Chess players seem to be used to slow moving federations, so I am moving slowly as to not dazzle anyone with my innovations. Being a correspondence player, I must carefully plan my course of action and run it through a computer. Blunder check it.

                        Right now I'm waiting for the new members to roll in. Being an Inner Galactic Federation, it will be hard to check the new members and validate their credentials. Our motto is:

                        You are who you say. Your character is limited only by your imagination.
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                          Both Jonathan and Jean are right when it comes to North America and their chess models. However, one huge difference between Canada and the US is that in the US, the scholastics are hugely successful and many teachers make a very good living off of it. For instance, in a given situation the USCF can raise about $50k from a scholastic nationals event, which sadly to say proves just how inept they are when it comes to their finances (heading for bankruptcy). What Canada lacks, it would seem, is the income revenue. How the federation can be restructured to be profitable, I am not sure, but there must be some new ideas from somewhere.


                          European Models:
                          In Europe, there are several big advantages as opposed to North America, first of all chess has a much longer and richer tradition. One thing which I can almost NEVER find in either Canada or the US is multiple rich benefactors or sponsors behind teams, whereas when one looks at the leagues (Bundesliga,French,Spanish) the better clubs probably shell out about $3k a match when there are usually 10-11 games which is $30k. Based on what I know from having played in Europe and on a few clubs now, they all charge low fees to members and get substantial funding from either sponsors or the local governments (proof that socialism is better).

                          Hopefully things can change in Canada soon, but who knows. Either way, the bottom line is that in order for chess to become really successful on the continent, it is likely someone will have to become World Champion.

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                            Originally posted by Hikaru Nakamura View Post
                            Either way, the bottom line is that in order for chess to become really successful on the continent, it is likely someone will have to become World Champion.
                            Fine, I'll do it.
                            everytime it hurts, it hurts just like the first (and then you cry till there's no more tears)

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                              The first thing that the CFC has to do is stop its false advertising. I received my 'renewal' letter and it states that 'Chess Canada magazine included except for Jr Participating.'

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