Re: GM's Harikrishna and Luke McShane join the Canadian Open race!
Originally Posted by Mark Bluvshtein
I read parts of a thread criticizing organizers. As an elite player in Canada, I know the importance of organizers. It is about cooperation between the two sides. We need each other. Bashing organizers saying they need to do this and that is simply inappropriate.
But Jean, what you innocently call "suggest improvements" has been, in your case, to ask the organizers to get the hell out, stop organizing altogether, if they can't spend hours of unpaid time each and every week seeking out sponsors. Many organized events that occur regularly and don't have sponsors or have minimal sponsors are nevertheless attended and appreciated by scores of chessplayers, not just the elite.
Your act of those organizers to step aside is an insult to them and is a slap in the face to the scores of chessplayers who like their events.
And what's worse, in other posts you go beyond criticizing them for not seeking sponsorship, you criticize the RESULTS of their efforts and say that if they don't SUCCEED in getting more sponsors, again they should step aside. In your cold, cruel world, effort alone isn't enough.
You are free to express your opinion, but it is becoming more and more clear that your opinion of these organizers is radical and wrong.
If there were a vote, you would be defeated soundly. You are being marginalized. I truly don't know how anyone can respect you outside of your chess playing accomplishments, at least until you be a man and apologize to Canadian organizers for painting them all (except a chosen few) with the same brush, calling them "lazy" and "dumbells".
Originally Posted by Mark Bluvshtein
If people think its so easy, please do it yourself and find out its not.
Wrong: Mark hasn't said he will never criticize an organizer. You love putting words to people that they never spoke or wrote.
Besides, your analogies are completely bogus. One can praise a group of people (organizers) as a whole for doing a thankless, low-paid or even volunteer job that they do out of caring. One can still then criticize an individual organizer if s/he is somehow negligent or doing something wrong. The two are not mutually exclusive, your whole argument is baseless and silly.
Originally Posted by Mark Bluvshtein
Thank you to all chess organizers in Canada. Without you there would be no Canadian chess.
It's obvious that what Mark meant was that without organizers, there would be no ORGANIZED Canadian chess. Duh!
As for your "good, bad and ugly" argument, again, totally wrong. An entertainer can get up on a stage and thank his or her fans as a group. If one of those fans starts stalking that entertainer, the entertainer is sure to become critical of that fan and have law enforcement take action. It doesn't mean the fans as a group can't be thanked and praised for their support.
There may be one, two, maybe three or four organizers in all of Canada who might be deserving of some criticism. By your perverted logic, we are not allowed to praise organizers as a whole because of these few?
No, it's obvious what you REALLY mean with this logic: in your opinion, there are only a handful of organizers who deserve praise and the vast majority of them are Level 1, lazy dumbells. Therefore, since the vast majority of organizers is bad (your opinion, not mine), we can't praise organizers as a whole.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong again. You're just making a fool of yourself.
Originally Posted by Mark Bluvshtein
I read parts of a thread criticizing organizers. As an elite player in Canada, I know the importance of organizers. It is about cooperation between the two sides. We need each other. Bashing organizers saying they need to do this and that is simply inappropriate.
Originally posted by Jean Hébert
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Your act of those organizers to step aside is an insult to them and is a slap in the face to the scores of chessplayers who like their events.
And what's worse, in other posts you go beyond criticizing them for not seeking sponsorship, you criticize the RESULTS of their efforts and say that if they don't SUCCEED in getting more sponsors, again they should step aside. In your cold, cruel world, effort alone isn't enough.
You are free to express your opinion, but it is becoming more and more clear that your opinion of these organizers is radical and wrong.
If there were a vote, you would be defeated soundly. You are being marginalized. I truly don't know how anyone can respect you outside of your chess playing accomplishments, at least until you be a man and apologize to Canadian organizers for painting them all (except a chosen few) with the same brush, calling them "lazy" and "dumbells".
Originally Posted by Mark Bluvshtein
If people think its so easy, please do it yourself and find out its not.
Originally posted by Jean Hébert
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Besides, your analogies are completely bogus. One can praise a group of people (organizers) as a whole for doing a thankless, low-paid or even volunteer job that they do out of caring. One can still then criticize an individual organizer if s/he is somehow negligent or doing something wrong. The two are not mutually exclusive, your whole argument is baseless and silly.
Originally Posted by Mark Bluvshtein
Thank you to all chess organizers in Canada. Without you there would be no Canadian chess.
Originally posted by Jean Hébert
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As for your "good, bad and ugly" argument, again, totally wrong. An entertainer can get up on a stage and thank his or her fans as a group. If one of those fans starts stalking that entertainer, the entertainer is sure to become critical of that fan and have law enforcement take action. It doesn't mean the fans as a group can't be thanked and praised for their support.
There may be one, two, maybe three or four organizers in all of Canada who might be deserving of some criticism. By your perverted logic, we are not allowed to praise organizers as a whole because of these few?
No, it's obvious what you REALLY mean with this logic: in your opinion, there are only a handful of organizers who deserve praise and the vast majority of them are Level 1, lazy dumbells. Therefore, since the vast majority of organizers is bad (your opinion, not mine), we can't praise organizers as a whole.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong again. You're just making a fool of yourself.
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