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  • All you ever wanted to know about chess-players...

    Originally posted by Alex Ferreira View Post
    chessbase is really desperate for 'news'.
    They announced a new one - an interview with g P. Svidler
    semi-original English version (Russian question were answered in Russian, English questions were answered in English, and everything translated to Russian or English) at http://www.crestbook.com/en/node/1364

    About 960
    : "I’d like to say that 960 is the future of chess, but to be honest I don’t think so."

    Q:- Carlsen has had great results over the past year. But looking at the games, he appears to have been uncommonly lucky – in Nanjing he was worse against Topalov, Gashimov & Bacrot. In Bazna, he was worse against Ponomariov. This is in contrast to a Kramnik or Anand, who appear more solid. Does luck explain part of his phenomenal rating?

    A - There is no luck in chess – Carlsen constantly creates problems for his opponents, often by taking what many would describe as unnecessary risks. Perhaps the fact that his opponents keep on cracking under that pressure might go some way towards explaining why he keeps on doing it. For someone like Kramnik or Anand (I have the same problem, but nowhere near the same results, so it's somewhat irrelevant) making moves that they know are not optimal in order to increase variance comes much less naturally than to Magnus, but to explain his play and results using the term 'luck' is just plain wrong.

    etc

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    Re: All you ever wanted to know about chess-players...

    'Unreservedly' thx for link egis.


    Q - King_LAG: Hello Peter! It would be interesting to find out if you play at the internet chess portals “ICC”, “Chess Planet” and so on? What’s your opinion on playing chess on the internet?

    A - I played an awful lot on the ICC, but gave it up a long time ago – it took up too much time. As a means of breaking in new openings it might have some sense, but then you have to actively spend your time making yourself anonymous, * and that seems too much like work to me.
    Last edited by David McTavish; Friday, 3rd December, 2010, 11:49 AM. Reason: forgot Q and A, as well as ref.

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      Re: All you ever wanted to know about chess-players...

      I am so glad that a strong player has finally said what I have believed for so long: "There is no luck in chess"

      So many players use "luck" as some sort of catch all that somehow excuses every single mistake they ever make in a game. I'm sorry, but just because you don't know why you made a mistake, or you don't think you should have made a mistake, or the error is uncommon- None of this means you should attribute your own shortcomings to probability or chance.

      I think people who attribute their results to chance are doing themselves a great disservice in pretending that anything other then themselves is responsible for how well they play.

      Chess is not a game of probability like poker is. The player that plays the better chess game always wins.

      I also agree about chess 960. I love playing it, and it is a shame that there aren't more tournaments of it. It seems like many people are arguing how computers and opening knowledge are making chess become more and more "played out", but not all of these people are willing to switch over to chess 960.

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        Re: All you ever wanted to know about chess-players...

        Originally posted by Nic Haynes View Post
        I am so glad that a strong player has finally said what I have believed for so long: "There is no luck in chess"

        So many players use "luck" as some sort of catch all that somehow excuses every single mistake they ever make in a game. I'm sorry, but just because you don't know why you made a mistake, or you don't think you should have made a mistake, or the error is uncommon- None of this means you should attribute your own shortcomings to probability or chance.

        I think people who attribute their results to chance are doing themselves a great disservice in pretending that anything other then themselves is responsible for how well they play.

        Chess is not a game of probability like poker is. The player that plays the better chess game always wins.

        I also agree about chess 960. I love playing it, and it is a shame that there aren't more tournaments of it. It seems like many people are arguing how computers and opening knowledge are making chess become more and more "played out", but not all of these people are willing to switch over to chess 960.
        I have to disagree, as I think that there is a lot of luck in chess. Of course in the long run the better players will win more games against the weaker ones but the same can be said about Poker.
        The fact is that whenever even the best players play chess, they often don't really know what is going on, or at least don't completely understand the position. Because of that, there is always an element of randomness in the moves which leads to luck.
        As for myself, whenever I save a lost position or win a drawn one I attribute it to luck, because it so happened that I was lucky enough in that particular game that my opponent made the mistake which helped me. This didn't necessarily had to happen.
        The situation is quite opposite when I blow a game, because I attribute it to my bad play even though in reality perhaps my opponent was lucky that I blew it in that particular game.

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          Re: All you ever wanted to know about chess-players...

          Originally posted by Nic Haynes View Post
          I also agree about chess 960. I love playing it, and it is a shame that there aren't more tournaments of it. It seems like many people are arguing how computers and opening knowledge are making chess become more and more "played out", but not all of these people are willing to switch over to chess 960.
          The resistance to chess960 comes from established players who have invested much time and effort into memorizing opening lines and want to leverage that knowledge into paying results. To them, chess960 is a threat.

          For chess960 to overcome this requires organizers who will regularly present it to YOUNGER chess players, who will eventually realize it's more FUN to play. But no organizers are doing this, because to do so would alienate the established players.

          Some organizer just has to say "Damn the torpedoes, I'm just going to do it."

          It would also help to have some established players who are courageous enough to say, "I'm willing to stake my future on tactical, middlegame and endgame skills rather than on opening knowledge."
          Only the rushing is heard...
          Onward flies the bird.

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            Re: All you ever wanted to know about chess-players...

            Paul, Vlad;

            I agree totally with both of you.

            Lots of luck in chess, for example in who you get to play in a large tournament, how sharp they are on that given day, how your knowledge meshes with theirs, etc. etc. If there is a cap on ones luck I'd rather use mine for stuff other than chess. As Cal said in the Titanic movie, "We make our own luck" as he paid off his spot on one of the last lifeboats.

            I love the idea of chess960, normal chess can get a little boring in this day and age with the same starting position. Playing chess960 makes no difference to my chess strength as I never studied openings anyway, I try to deviate from main lines on move 2 or 3. Since most people rely on their opening knowledge (like a blind person relies on a guide dog, or an elderly person relies on a hearing aid, or a myopic person relies on glasses, or a dog relies on its master for food and walks), their strength suffers more with chess960 than mine. Opening theory is an excuse for people not to think in the beginning of the game. I usually have fun sessions at the end of my kid lesson sessions using chess960.

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