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    What are other organizations doing - and what should we be doing in high-level events regarding a dress code? I spoke to a spectator at the recent Montreal Open (it was his first time at a chess tournament), and he commented to me on the general appearance (or lack of it) amongst the players in the Open section.

    Should our top events (e.g. Canadian Closed, top sections of major Opens in large cities, etc.) have some sort of dress code? At least, the media would learn that not all chess players dress like bums. We want to attract sponsors to these types of events, and what better way to impress them?

    I'm not saying there should be a dress code for everyone but just for the "elite" events for which the media should be approached.

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    Just curious... what's the penalty for breaking the dress code?
    Christopher Mallon
    FIDE Arbiter

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by Christopher Mallon View Post
      Just curious... what's the penalty for breaking the dress code?
      Fewer sponsors and lower prize funds; oh wait that's what we have today. :p:p

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        Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
        What are other organizations doing - and what should we be doing in high-level events regarding a dress code? I spoke to a spectator at the recent Montreal Open (it was his first time at a chess tournament), and he commented to me on the general appearance (or lack of it) amongst the players in the Open section.

        Should our top events (e.g. Canadian Closed, top sections of major Opens in large cities, etc.) have some sort of dress code? At least, the media would learn that not all chess players dress like bums. We want to attract sponsors to these types of events, and what better way to impress them?

        I'm not saying there should be a dress code for everyone but just for the "elite" events for which the media should be approached.
        If you want to see people dressed even worse than chess players, look daily at the poker shows on TV! Jeans and t-shirts, baseball caps, you name it, you can see all of them in sponsored poker events on TV! But since they play for big money nobody seems to care...

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          Chess should follow the example of billiards - snooker and nine-ball tournaments require top event players to wear tuxedos or three piece suits, stripping down to a vest to make the shots.
          I was at a backgammon tournament in Europe where one of the players (Bob Wachtel) attempted to enter improperly dressed. He was chased down by an official and sent back to get attired.
          Well dressed players make a lasting and positive impression. Can you imagine Sean Connery in a casino wearing t-shirt, jeans and sneakers?

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            Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
            If you want to see people dressed even worse than chess players, look daily at the poker shows on TV! Jeans and t-shirts, baseball caps, you name it, you can see all of them in sponsored poker events on TV! But since they play for big money nobody seems to care...
            Those players provide value to the companies they represent, unlike chess players.

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              This has come up before. Back in the mid-90s when I worked at the CFC, Troy Vail and I did a lot of work seeking corporate sponsorships for the Canadian Closed. We found more than one company willing to contribute big, $10,000 or more, if the players all wore suits, were clean shaven and so forth. The executive and governors were not interested, arguing that such a code would be too difficult to legislate and enforce.

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                Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
                This has come up before. Back in the mid-90s when I worked at the CFC, Troy Vail and I did a lot of work seeking corporate sponsorships for the Canadian Closed. We found more than one company willing to contribute big, $10,000 or more, if the players all wore suits, were clean shaven and so forth. The executive and governors were not interested, arguing that such a code would be too difficult to legislate and enforce.
                Enforcement would not be needed if the top players would take it upon themselves to dress up! This is one aspect of chess promotion that top Canadian players can take the initiative as opposed to constantly disparaging the organizers. Yes you, Jean Hebert, at the next tournament, wear a suit and tie. Young impressionable players will be strongly influenced!

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                  Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
                  We found more than one company willing to contribute big, $10,000 or more, if the players all wore suits
                  I think that it is a current trend in the chess world: Carlsen, Anand, and even Bluvshtein have appropriate shirts :)

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                  • #10
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                    Originally posted by Brad Thomson View Post
                    This has come up before. Back in the mid-90s when I worked at the CFC, Troy Vail and I did a lot of work seeking corporate sponsorships for the Canadian Closed. We found more than one company willing to contribute big, $10,000 or more, if the players all wore suits, were clean shaven and so forth. The executive and governors were not interested, arguing that such a code would be too difficult to legislate and enforce.
                    I vaguely remember this Brad, and don't even remember how I felt at the time. I think I would be in favour of this now.

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                    • #11
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                      Let's start with baby steps - a dress shirt or sports shirt, sports jacket and dress pants with sensible shoes. Let's not get carried away with suits & ties at first; some people might go into shock. :o:o

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                        Originally posted by David Ottosen View Post
                        Those players provide value to the companies they represent, unlike chess players.
                        If so it is certainly not from the way they dress. It is simply about poker being a simple game for mass consumption. Nothing much to do with chess players (who also get sponsored when they turned to poker).

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                          Originally posted by Vlad Dobrich View Post
                          Yes you, Jean Hebert, at the next tournament, wear a suit and tie. Young impressionable players will be strongly influenced!
                          As long as sloppy old goats like you will charge GMs 30$ to play a blitz tournament with a 50$ first prize, it is not likely to happen. Besides I would feel out of place dressing up as if I was attending your funeral.

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                            Originally posted by Vlad Dobrich View Post
                            Well dressed players make a lasting and positive impression.
                            I strongly suspect that on the contrary it is a short lived impression that vanishes quickly when people like you open their mouths.

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                              Jean Hebert, I am your number 1 fan :)
                              Shameless self-promotion on display here
                              http://www.youtube.com/user/Barkyducky?feature=mhee

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