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  • The CCC Post ( Week of Nov. 11 to 17/11 ).

    The CCC Post ( Week of Nov. 11 to 17/11 ).

    Q: Many say FIDE is an incompetent organization ( and some say “ corrupt “ ). What should CFC be doing in the face of this?

    A: Although there is justified criticism of FIDE, the Cooperative Chess Coalition ( CCC ) sees no international move to replace it ( and has doubts whether any such attempt would be successful ). So it seems Canada will be dealing with FIDE into the indefinite future. CCC believes that as CFC becomes more collegial, and member-friendly, this will be reflected in a new Canadian approach to FIDE, and a stronger stand on controversial issues.

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    FIDE Restrictions on Canadian Permanent Residents?

    There is one current FIDE regulation that rankles.

    The CFC Governors in their last meeting decided that all Canadian juniors could play in the Canadian Junior and CYCC, even if just a newly-arrived permanent resident. We want our best to play for and win the Canadian Championships.

    Then comes FIDE. Their regulation interferes with our view of " Canadian ". If a permanent resident junior who has only been in Canada 2 months, wins a championship, s/he may not be able to represent Canada at the World Junior or the WYCC! FIDE regulations restrict Canadian rights - the junior must have actually resided in Canada for 12 months prior to the world tournament. So if the Canadian tournament is in July, and the world in November ( as is the case this year for the WYCC ), the champion will have only been resident in Canada for 6 months before the world tournament. So FIDE will prohibit our Canadian Champion from representing us at the world tournament.

    Seem OK to you? Doesn't to the Cooperative Chess Coalition ( CCC )!

    CCC thinks Canada should seek an exemption from the relevant FIDE regulation, based on Canadian law on the rights of permanent residents in Canada, from day 1. Our Canadian permanent resident champions should be entitled to represent us on the world championship stage.

    What is the CFC position on this? When it was raised by the CCC with the CFC FIDE Representative, Hal Bond, he discouraged such an application, saying there was no way FIDE would consider granting such exemption to Canada.

    What do you think CFC should do, if anything?

    Bob, CCC Coordinator
    Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Saturday, 12th November, 2011, 09:27 AM.

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      Re: FIDE Restrictions on Canadian Permanent Residents?

      Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
      There is one current FIDE regulation that rankles.

      The CFC Governors in their last meeting decided that all Canadian juniors could play in the Canadian Junior and CYCC, even if just a newly-arrived permanent resident. We want our best to play for and win the Canadian Championships.

      Then comes FIDE. Their regulation interferes with our view of " Canadian ". If a permanent resident junior who has only been in Canada 2 months, wins a championship, s/he may not be able to represent Canada at the World Junior or the WYCC! FIDE regulations restrict Canadian rights - the junior must have actually resided in Canada for 12 months prior to the world tournament. So if the Canadian tournament is in July, and the world in November ( as is the case this year for the WYCC ), the champion will have only been resident in Canada for 6 months before the world tournament. So FIDE will prohibit our Canadian Champion from representing us at the world tournament.

      Seem OK to you? Doesn't to the Cooperative Chess Coalition ( CCC )!

      CCC thinks Canada should seek an exemption from the relevant FIDE regulation, based on Canadian law on the rights of permanent residents in Canada, from day 1. Our Canadian permanent resident champions should be entitled to represent us on the world championship stage.

      What is the CFC position on this? When it was raised by the CCC with the CFC FIDE Representative, Hal Bond, he discouraged such an application, saying there was no way FIDE would consider granting such exemption to Canada.

      What do you think CFC should do, if anything?

      Bob, CCC Coordinator

      I presume Hal would know whether or not there was much chance of an exception being granted. It seems the FIDE regulation is there to prevent 'country hopping' (by requiring reasonable residency requirements).

      If I recall, FIDE has similar constraints in place for other changes of flag. I don't think FIDE deliberately chose to oppose any Canadian aspect of this; perhaps 12 months seemed reasonably long enough to discourage any perceived possibility of switching countries just before the WYCC. The fact that it seems to fly in the face of other Canadian regulations is just a coincidence.

      I don't see a strong case for arguing the Canadian side of this.
      ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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        Re: FIDE Restrictions on Canadian Permanent Residents?

        Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
        CCC thinks Canada should seek an exemption from the relevant FIDE regulation, based on Canadian law on the rights of permanent residents in Canada, from day 1. Our Canadian permanent resident champions should be entitled to represent us on the world championship stage.

        What is the CFC position on this? When it was raised by the CCC with the CFC FIDE Representative, Hal Bond, he discouraged such an application, saying there was no way FIDE would consider granting such exemption to Canada.

        What do you think CFC should do, if anything?

        Bob, CCC Coordinator
        I have to agree with Hal and Kerry on this one. FIDE needs to enforce simple practical rules that they can apply equally to all countries. If they were to grant an exemption to Canada, they would open the door for all kinds of special exemption requests, some legitimate but others not so much. Such an invitation to abuse the system would be dangerous....:o

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