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  • #16
    Re: It's been a slice...

    Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
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    But Beckwith claims my rating has ALWAYS exceeded my true abilities. I doubt anyone else can match that!
    This does sound like quite a significant accomplishment! :)
    "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
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    • #17
      Re: It's been a slice...

      Peter, it is very simple for a persons rating to exceed their true abilities. All they need to do is win several games by complete luck; for example with their higher rated opponent self-imploding a few times. For example, with Bonham, any time that he played someone who used chesstalk regularly and read most of his postings this would apply. Such an opponent would probably be unable to stop laughing upon meeting him in person and would thus lose irrespective of how much higher their rating was...

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      • #18
        Re: It's been a slice...

        Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
        Peter, it is very simple for a persons rating to exceed their true abilities. All they need to do is win several games by complete luck; for example with their higher rated opponent self-imploding a few times. For example, with Bonham, any time that he played someone who used chesstalk regularly and read most of his postings this would apply. Such an opponent would probably be unable to stop laughing upon meeting him in person and would thus lose irrespective of how much higher their rating was...
        On a purely scientific basis there is a major flaw in your theory. A constantly laughing opponent would be removed from the playing hall by the TD. As well the set of those Paul B. plays and the set of those who read chesstalk and the set of those who share your viewpoint are mutually exclusive. Simply put just the set of those who share your views and everyone else on the planet are mutually exclusive as well. If you like I can draw the Venn diagram for you.

        As well even given that your theory is with some basis, one would think higher rated players don't see chess as a personality contest ala Paul Beckwith. Or at least they would smarten up next time after losing.
        Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Monday, 9th January, 2012, 03:17 AM.

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        • #19
          Re: It's been a slice...

          Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
          Peter, it is very simple for a persons rating to exceed their true abilities. All they need to do is win several games by complete luck; for example with their higher rated opponent self-imploding a few times. For example, with Bonham, any time that he played someone who used chesstalk regularly and read most of his postings this would apply. Such an opponent would probably be unable to stop laughing upon meeting him in person and would thus lose irrespective of how much higher their rating was...
          So then my "true abilities" include getting people to laugh so hard they lose their game to me! All part of the skill set. It's so easy to burst your balloon, Paul!

          Guess how I got them to laugh so hard, all those 16 years ago when Chesstalk didn't even exist (ooops! another blunder, Mr. Beckwith!)?

          I told them in about 15 years, Beckwith would be out of chess and would be reduced to being one of those guys wearing the sandwich boards, "The End Is Near, Dumb Ass Humans!"
          Only the rushing is heard...
          Onward flies the bird.

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          • #20
            Re: It's been a slice...

            Originally posted by Paul Bonham View Post
            one of those guys wearing the sandwich boards, "The End Is Near, Dumb Ass Humans!"
            Well, I just have one question for the climate change skeptics:

            It is January, where is the snow?

            Perhaps, we should listen to the sandwich boards guys, once in a while.

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            • #21
              There's a Perception Problem

              I fear Bob G has sort of hijacked the thread here, which was on chess games and ratings, etc. But his comment did jog a thought in this rather murky brain.

              Speaking of " snow ", I have a problem here.

              All Canadians ( most, many, some ? ) are happy to have a milder winter.

              So when they are told its due to climate change, they say " great " ! And I think they'll live with the extreme weather events that also accompany climate change, in order to get the overall milder winter.

              So where does that leave the climate change educators?? And can they convince Canadians that there are larger problems affecting the planet due to climate change, that they should be weighing against the better winter? Will the response be: " Well, those won't happen in my lifetime! "

              Bob A
              Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Tuesday, 10th January, 2012, 12:43 PM.

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              • #22
                Re: It's been a slice...

                I'm glad to see the thread focused on interesting topics instead of some guy who plays a dying form of chess making an attention whore post about how he's not going to play anymore. Hint: the thread should make it clear to you that no one really cares.

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                • #23
                  Re: It's been a slice...

                  Originally posted by David Ottosen View Post
                  I'm glad to see the thread focused on interesting topics instead of some guy who plays a dying form of chess making an attention whore post about how he's not going to play anymore. Hint: the thread should make it clear to you that no one really cares.
                  Unduly Harsh.
                  ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                  • #24
                    Re: It's been a slice...

                    Originally posted by David Ottosen View Post
                    who plays a dying form of chess
                    chess.com blooms with this form (it is called Online chess, while 1, 5 min etc - Live chess ), thus "dying" is just premature.

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                    • #25
                      Re: It's been a slice...

                      Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                      Well, I just have one question for the climate change skeptics:

                      It is January, where is the snow?

                      Perhaps, we should listen to the sandwich boards guys, once in a while.
                      That would be anecdotal and unscientific evidence. You might as well rely on Uncle Joe's trick knee to tell you when it's going to rain.

                      The correct basis of evidence would be to study snowfall patterns back as far as the record goes (recognizing that this itself may be a limited amount of evidence) to determine whether no snowfall yet this year is an anomoly. Of course you would first have to define what part of Canada you are talking about. You would then need to determine if it's cold enough to have snowed but just not snowed yet due to rain patterns. I can tell you snow used to be up to my waist when I was a child walking to school but that
                      doesn't happen these days. Can you spot the flaw in my reasoning - I knew you could :)
                      Sometimes the guy with the sandwhich board needs to do more than just shoot from the lip.
                      Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Tuesday, 10th January, 2012, 03:57 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: It's been a slice...

                        Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
                        I can tell you snow used to be up to my waist when I was a child walking to school but that
                        doesn't happen these days. Can you spot the flaw in my reasoning - I knew you could :)
                        You are taller now? :D

                        When I was a child, there was always snow on the ground in January!
                        Yes, I know it's anecdotal, but what of it. You want me to study snowfall patterns? That ain't gonna happen.

                        ps. You need one more edit. Check the spelling of sandwich.
                        Last edited by Bob Gillanders; Tuesday, 10th January, 2012, 04:17 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Re: It's been a slice...

                          Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                          You are taller now? :D

                          When I was a child, there was always snow on the ground in January!
                          Yes, I know it's anecdotal, but what of it. You want me to study snowfall patterns? That ain't gonna happen.
                          Then I ain't gonna believe you pardner. Especially because you ain't anywhere near 150 years old. Even assuming your misty coloured memories of growing up at the north pole are 20/20. Now my having been born in early January can tell you there wasn't always snow on the ground for my birthday. Sometimes I had to walk 3 miles to school and ski 2 miles back just to get back in time to open my presents. But hey if the sandwhich board fits, wear it.
                          Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Tuesday, 10th January, 2012, 04:20 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Re: It's been a slice...

                            Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
                            Then I ain't gonna believe you pardner. Especially because you ain't anywhere near 150 years old. Even assuming your misty coloured memories of growing up at the north pole are 20/20. Now my having been born in early January can tell you there wasn't always snow on the ground for my birthday. Sometimes I had to walk 3 miles to school and ski 2 miles back just to get back in time to open my presents. But hey if the sandwhich board fits, wear it.
                            Spelling, spelling. :D

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                            • #29
                              Re: It's been a slice...

                              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                              Spelling, spelling. :D
                              science first, spelling second :D:D

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                              • #30
                                Re: It's been a slice...

                                Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                                Well, I just have one question for the climate change skeptics:

                                It is January, where is the snow?

                                Perhaps, we should listen to the sandwich boards guys, once in a while.
                                Climate changes all the time. The skepticism deals with man's role and ability to change it. In interglacial warming periods there is usually some global warming and hence less snow hence the hysterical need for the chicken little crowd to pretend that previous interglacial warming periods didn't happen since if primitive man was able to survive them, a few degrees Celsius wouldn't matter now either.

                                Why is this thread being hijacked? The chicken little crowd is getting their butts handed to them on a platter over there so the contagion must spread further? Is that the deal?

                                If so, don't expect the arguments to work on a new thread either.
                                Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Tuesday, 10th January, 2012, 05:23 PM.

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