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    I am looking/collecting for membership numbers from Magazines. Though the process goes slowly as there are many magazines and not much time. If anybody has at least references what magazines hold stats let me know - you'll save my time browsing them. At one period they switched to stats by ratings.

    Example for after the Fischer's era. ( The latest are at the CFC website http://www.chess.ca/membership-stats )

    Code:
    CFC Membership Stats as of: 1976/05/01
    	Junior 	LIFE 	Adult 	Total
    Total 	515 	84 	2105 	2704
    AB 	56 	7 	240 	303
    BC 	60 	16 	193 	269
    MB 	13 	2 	97 	112
    NB 	43 	2 	78 	123
    NL 	7 	1 	20 	28
    NS 	9 	2 	58 	69
    NT 				0
    NU 				0
    ON 	251 	43 	898 	1192
    PE 	2 		7 	9
    QC 	51 	9 	321 	381
    SK 	23 	2 	73 	98
    YT 				
    US 				
    FO 			120 	120
    
    At that time there were no Family, Honorary and Participating Juniors.

  • #2
    Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

    Without having the magazines handy to me at the moment, I would check the issues with the annual rating lists (usually July-August) for each year. Usually there are summaries of the previous year's activities, and some stats may be included.

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    • #3
      Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

      Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
      Usually there are summaries of the previous year's activities, and some stats may be included.
      Yes. ("At one period they switched to stats by ratings.") Though, I skipped those magazines. Now I'll need to come back to them :)

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      • #4
        Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

        Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

        At that time there were no Family, Honorary and Participating Juniors.
        The honorary members were lumped in with the life members and noted on the list I have. They had a membership number.

        The CCCA was quickly building up interest and the club topped out at around 700 or slightly more. In addition, there was a private correspondence club which had a couple of hundred or more members. What happened was someone got so upset with me he started his own club. Those were the days of strictly postal chess so me upsetting someone so much by mail was an accomplishment.

        You have to also remember in 1976 the population of Canada was smaller so the per capita percentage of members was larger then than the same number now. The population was about 23 million then and around 34 million now.

        Had the per capita membership stayed the same with the population increase from the reorganization in 1973 until now the membership would be larger and the organization would likely be a success. For some reason that hasn't happened.

        I don't know if the model was flawed or the execution has been flawed over the years.

        For what it's worth, back then Jonathan was doing a very good job as business manage of the CFC and I was doing what amounted to the same thing for the CCCA. Maybe Jonathan and I were chess in Canada. There's a scary thought. :)
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • #5
          Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

          Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post

          You have to also remember in 1976 the population of Canada was smaller so the per capita percentage of members was larger then than the same number now. The population was about 23 million then and around 34 million now.
          Ca-na-da, we are twenty million... (one, little two, little 3 Canadians...)


          Just a mind worm that has stuck in my head for too many years. Readers under the age of 50 are excused for not getting the reference. (to 1967)

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          • #6
            Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

            Originally posted by Roger Patterson View Post
            Ca-na-da, we are twenty million... Readers under the age of 50 are excused for not getting the reference. (to 1967)
            Then you may remember A Place To Stand - It also played at Expo 67

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            • #7
              Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

              Originally posted by Ed Zator View Post
              Then you may remember
              1963 :)
              What is the last column?

              Source - Canadian Chess Chat (CCC) 1963'7. I assume years are fiscal. I was rushing through volumes as the library was closing, thus I did not read any explanations.

              CCC impressed me with its photos' quality. No digital shoot&check cameras at that time. If anybody has CCC collecting dust in an attic or a basement, let me know :)

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              • #8
                Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

                It looks like (New Rated - Not reported in 2 years) + 1962 total = 1963 total.

                So simple is CFC math. :):p:)
                Gary Ruben
                CC - IA and SIM

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                • #9
                  Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

                  Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                  So simple is CFC math.
                  What about the ABC :)


                  GL 95/96#1


                  GL 94/95#1


                  GL 93/94#4


                  GL 93/94#3


                  GL9394#5

                  Probably:
                  • F family
                  • H honorary
                  • J junior
                  • L life
                  • O ordinary
                  • P participant
                  Last edited by Egidijus Zeromskis; Sunday, 22nd April, 2012, 11:35 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

                    I'll leave the alphabet to someone else. :)

                    Looking at the number for 1962, I didn't know there were that few members from Manitoba. It's only 19 pairs. It's been a long time but I'm sure the club in Winnipeg had more members than that. Can't remember for sure but seem to think we got more than that for the annual Winnipeg - Minneapolis match in Bemigi in Minnesota. Probably Manitoba had about 25 juniors in 1960. There was a school chess league and I remember that because I played one year.

                    What I don't know was how the events were rated or if there was a membership fee for the CFC. It might have been a case of submitting an event with some payment for each player to be rated. The modern CFC started around 1973. Back around 1960 most players didn't worry about ratings because there were no GM's in Canada. Whoever won the event was the best player.

                    It seems to me the first Canadian Open was in 1956 in Winnipeg and Fischer played.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #11
                      Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

                      The first Canadian Open was in Montreal in 1956, and Fischer did play.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

                        Originally posted by Hugh Brodie View Post
                        The first Canadian Open was in Montreal in 1956, and Fischer did play.
                        Thanks. I had the wrong city.
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                        • #13
                          Re: Historical CFC mebership stats

                          Numbers from 1981

                          Code:
                          Membership 	Ord 	Jun 	Fa 	Par	 Lif 	Tot 	$Fees
                          ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                          Ontario		1078	251	4	108	102	1543	13981
                          Quebec		 466	48	3	13	27	557	5539
                          B.C.		 337	135	6	7	32	517	4759
                          Alberta		 280	53	1	59	17	410	3709
                          Saskatchewan	  94	15	0	2	7	118	1212
                          New Brunswick	  70	27	0	10	3	110	1044
                          Newfoundland	  48	37	0	1	3	89	789
                          Nova Scotia	  61	9	1	1	6	78	760
                          Manitoba	  61	7	11	11	7	86	743
                          Territories	  14	4	0	0	0	18	176
                          P.E.I.		   3	0	0	0	0	3	30
                          Foreign		 102	0	0	0	7	109	1089
                          Institutional	  43	0	0	0	0	43	483
                          Affiliates	  25	0	0	0	0	25	625
                          CCCA								530
                          ---------------------------------------------------------------------
                          Total		2682	586	15	212	211	3706	35470
                          #48 CCE (1981-07)

                          Over several decades total memberships:

                          1961 - 0472
                          1976 - 2704
                          1981 - 3706
                          1989 - 2777
                          1993 - 3226
                          2003 - 2491
                          2004 - 2701
                          2012 - 1859

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