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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    The election will probably be decided in Ontario.
    Lots of new ridings in Ontario. I read awhile ago that to get a majority the conservatives will have to win all the upcoming by-elections, hold them and all their current ridings plus win 7 of the new ridings. I don't know how accurate that is.

    In the riding where I live it's being split in pretty much into two with some area added to both. The incumbent conservative, who lives in the riding, will contest this half of the new ridings where he doesn't live. His party wants to take away out mail delivery. This last years is the first time we've had a conservative federally since the Mulroney government.

    Then there is foreign policy. You have to remember Trudeau senior, for whom I never voted, did not move in lockstep with the Americans. We did not follow the U.S. to Vietnam and we did not take the same route regarding Cuba.

    While I suspect Justin would take the same route as his father we'll have to wait until he makes his policies clearer.

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  • Kevin Pacey
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    Re: A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Hi Vlad

    I made a query last night that you may wish to read, in a thread of the Chat Forum on the CFC Discussion board (I understand you're the moderator of it).

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Hi Ken: No obstacle will prevent the NDP from becoming the next Canadian federal government! ;)

    Bob A
    No obstacle except the Canadian electorate. If either the NDP or Conservative support collapses we will see the Liberals return to power. Trudeau does have foot in mouth disease but the media does not pounce on his mistakes much as the case of Obama in the U.S. I can't see the NDP maintaining their Quebec gains from the last election with some significant slippage to the Liberals. The election will probably be decided in Ontario.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Ken Kurkowski View Post
    Mulcair would be the first Canadian Prime Minister with a full beard since Sir Mackenzie Bowell (1894-96)
    Do you think Mulcair will win?

    The NDP couldn't even hold Chow's riding in the by-election.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Re: A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Ken Kurkowski View Post
    Mulcair would be the first Canadian Prime Minister with a full beard since Sir Mackenzie Bowell (1894-96)
    Hi Ken: No obstacle will prevent the NDP from becoming the next Canadian federal government! ;)

    Bob A

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  • Ken Kurkowski
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    Re: A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Mulcair would be the first Canadian Prime Minister with a full beard since Sir Mackenzie Bowell (1894-96)

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    A 3-Way Race: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    How Mulcair could beat Harper and Trudeau in 2015: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/video...click=sf_globe

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  • Kevin Pacey
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    Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Kevin Pacey View Post
    More treatment centres would be one thing to help deal with the drug abuse problem. Somewhat similar to the idea behind John School. Could do the same for out-of-control alcohol abuse, say when DUI occurs. The answer is surely not to forever look the other way regarding such 'sins'. As an average citizen, I don't look forward to encountering more often on the street used syringes, used crackpipes or even used condoms, as has already happened a lot in my own city of Ottawa. I don't even really want to chance innocently inhaling the fumes of yet more people's joints, if marijuana is legalized. Is it not complex enough socially that one means of getting artificially 'happy' (alcohol) is legal?

    Regarding Mulroney, he may indeed be the worst case of probable corruption historically. The Liberals have been in power a lot more often since Confederation, however, and their known/probable level of corruption historically might be compared somehow with the PCs/Cons' average level historically. It would make for an interesting task for a historian.

    Regarding why I would even consider voting NDP, I believe I gave my rationale. Not saying I've finally decided yet whether it's 'sound' IMO. If I'm stuck with the same choices as I was last time in my riding, like I wrote it's going to be a dilemma for me. One thing is clear to me, that I won't vote Liberal. Trudeau is being managed by the same sort of person who influenced the Ontario Liberal's Green Energy policy. Plus there has not been much of a housecleaning of the party since the Sponsorship Scandal (let alone what has happened with their own Senators, corruption-wise).
    Trudeau's stances on terrorism, (admiration for) China's government and on other issues are becoming scary enough for me that I'm beginning to have second thoughts about not voting for the Cons. It seems Trudeau simply has to be stopped. Also, every other party than the Cons seems to adore Green Energy policies. The NDP doesn't seem clean as far as corruption and past election campaign tricks go, either. It looks like it's 'hold my nose' time.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Not So Fast: Are NDP or Liberals Replacing Con's?: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Here is a pretty detailed account/analysis of the four federal by-elections: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/byelection...06e7ab7bbcd2b7

    Bob A
    I'm not reading too much into the by-elections. I think the turnout was around 30% in the Toronto ridings and a mere 15% in Alberta. A general election will have a much larger percent of the population participating.

    I don't know who will win the next election. While I'd like to see the conservatives repeat, I'll have to see if any of the leaders promise to continue home delivery of mail.

    One thing for sure. Minority government isn't on the ballot.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Re: Not So Fast: Are NDP or Liberals Replacing Con's?: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    It's a long way to the 2015 election. Justin has a bit of a problem sometimes with foot-in-mouth disease. Also not clear about the depth of his policies: "Join me in change." Anything can happen....and Thomas Mulcair, Opposition Leader, continues to perform well....voters are now getting used to seeing a good NDP politician, who is holding the Con's feet to the fire. It may eventually garner some good return.

    Bob A (Declaration of Conflict of Interest - NDP Supporter)
    Here is a pretty detailed account/analysis of the four federal by-elections: http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/byelection...06e7ab7bbcd2b7

    Bob A

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Not So Fast: Are NDP or Liberals Replacing Con's?: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    Hi Bob,

    After last nights buy elections the picture of the Queen on my $20. bill is laughing.

    I guess you're holding it's twin for me.

    I've been watching the Toronto Mayoral race. One of the candidates wants to make 200 kms of bike lanes. That's approximately from Toronto to London, Ontario. Whatever Toronto taxpayers can afford is OK with me.
    It's a long way to the 2015 election. Justin has a bit of a problem sometimes with foot-in-mouth disease. Also not clear about the depth of his policies: "Join me in change." Anything can happen....and Thomas Mulcair, Opposition Leader, continues to perform well....voters are now getting used to seeing a good NDP politician, who is holding the Con's feet to the fire. It may eventually garner some good return.

    Bob A (Declaration of Conflict of Interest - NDP Supporter)

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Are NDP or Liberals Replacing Con's?: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Hi Bob,

    After last nights buy elections the picture of the Queen on my $20. bill is laughing.

    I guess you're holding it's twin for me.

    I've been watching the Toronto Mayoral race. One of the candidates wants to make 200 kms of bike lanes. That's approximately from Toronto to London, Ontario. Whatever Toronto taxpayers can afford is OK with me.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Are NDP or Liberals Replacing Con's?: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Poll suggests Tories and NDP currently in statistical tie: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...d.html?cmp=rss

    I know you don't believe in polls, Gary, but they do often have currency. I knew you'd want to know about this one - will stir your commitment to get that $ 20 saved up in advance!!

    Bob A, NDP supporter
    The Conservatives are likely in trouble. It is a race to replace them between the Opposition NDP, and the third party Liberals.

    Toronto by-election a preview of NDP-Liberal battles to come:http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/toro...687375?cmp=rss

    Will it be PM Thomas Mulcair?

    Bob A (declaring bias - NDP Supporter)

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  • Joel Stainer
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    Re: Conservatives in Third: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I'd imagine it would be a consideration for older people who don't get around much, or very well, anymore. That would be ridings with older homes.

    Another consideration would be the possibility of getting a community box for 50 homes in front of your home and the traffic and mess that goes with it. I don't know if you'd buy a home with something like that out front but I know I wouldn't buy that house or the one on either side of it. You'd have cars pulling up all day and night and have to put up with the noise.

    Trudeau could win himself a lot of votes by promising to reverse that decision.
    I guess so. The world of politics is a strange beast for sure.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Conservatives in Third: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Originally posted by Joel Stainer View Post
    Is it something that is big with certain demographics?
    I'd imagine it would be a consideration for older people who don't get around much, or very well, anymore. That would be ridings with older homes.

    Another consideration would be the possibility of getting a community box for 50 homes in front of your home and the traffic and mess that goes with it. I don't know if you'd buy a home with something like that out front but I know I wouldn't buy that house or the one on either side of it. You'd have cars pulling up all day and night and have to put up with the noise.

    Trudeau could win himself a lot of votes by promising to reverse that decision.

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