CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

[Gary Ruben]

Re: CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

I did. Thank you.

[Ken Craft]

Re: CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

Did you get my response to your PM, Gary?

[Gary Ruben]

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According to F. Dumont's interpretation, official self appointed FQE spokesman :), all Quebec residents will be required to be FQE members, meaning that the CFC membership in Quebec will disappear completely. I wonder how many among the 27 governors who voted for the deal understood that ?

BONUS!!! I thought that part was obvious.

The deal has a bright future. Short but bright.

[Hugh Brodie]

Re: CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

I know of at least one Life CFC member in Quebec who is not an FQE member (he has been inactive for many years). There could be other Life members in the same situation. (I am a Life CFC member, and an FQE member. I will most likely keep it that way - as long as the FQE provides a (preferably) paper magazine).

[Christopher Mallon]

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According to F. Dumont's interpretation, official self appointed FQE spokesman :), all Quebec residents will be required to be FQE members, meaning that the CFC membership in Quebec will disappear completely. I wonder how many among the 27 governors who voted for the deal understood that ?

Actually, my reading would be that the players could still choose a CFC membership vs FQE membership, however the CFC will have to charge a higher fee than the FQE membership (which is $45 for adults vs the current $38 for the CFC).

How many paying members have only CFC memberships in Quebec and not FQE memberships? Probably not many, if there are any at all. So I doubt very many will go with that route once it costs $8 more, although they would be able to play in the events now.

As well, nobody seemed terribly worried by the fact that this could quite easily eliminate two of Quebec's three CFC Governor positions...

[Jean Hébert]

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You convinced me that the agreement is excellent that I will probably renew my membership with the CFC.

According to F. Dumont's interpretation, official self appointed FQE spokesman :), all Quebec residents will be required to be FQE members, meaning that the CFC membership in Quebec will disappear completely. I wonder how many among the 27 governors who voted for the deal understood that ?

[Hugh Brodie]

Re: CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

On the French discussion boards (Chesstalk and quebecechecs.com), there has been very little reaction from the average tournament player on this subject. Most of the players I have spoken to (in Montreal) aren't even aware of the agreement (they don't read Chesstalk, but most are regular tournament players) and when I tell them of it, the stronger ones say: "Oh boy! More chances to play FIDE-rated games", while the opinions of the weaker ones are along the line of "who cares? Just as long as I don't have to pay more money".

[J.-R. Boutin]

Re : Excellent

I believe the CA should do what is best for chess in Quebec. No matter what you might think, I am convinced that the agreement is great for all the chess players in Quebec. Very few chess players really care about chess politics. They just want their representatives to ameliorate the services they can have access to. I am sure that our representatives will take the best decision with all the information they have.

You convinced me that the agreement is excellent that I will probably renew my membership with the CFC.

[Paul Bonham]

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What about your personal attacks and your condescendant ways to tell people that they don't understand and don't see the "truth" ? Why would people argue with a teenager who is never wrong, knows everything and would rather die than change his mind on anything ?

Jean, come on, you are NOT a teenager!

[Garvin Nunes]

Re: CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

Can someone please tell me what the truth is :)

[Felix Dumont]

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What about your personal attacks and your condescendant ways to tell people that they don't understand and don't see the "truth" ? Why would people argue with a teenager who is never wrong, knows everything and would rather die than change his mind on anything ?

Thanks for giving an exemple of what I was talking about :)

[Jean Hébert]

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You might think it's clear that people don't like the agreement, but it's not true. Why would people go on Chesstalk and try to argue with you, all this to receive personal attacks?

What about your personal attacks and your condescendant ways to tell people that they don't understand and don't see the "truth" ? Why would people argue with a teenager who is never wrong, knows everything and would rather die than change his mind on anything ?

[Jean Hébert]

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I did see your reply, but it did not answer my questions.

Why didn't you say so then ? I could have tried to simplify for your sake...

[Bob Gillanders]

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I gave you an answer (and then some...)

I did see your reply, but it did not answer my questions.
It was just spin, and most of the so called "facts" turn out to be incorrect. :(

[Felix Dumont]

Re : Re: CFC and the FQE have come to an agreement!

How could such a critical mistake lay there for so long is beyond understanding.
It means anyway that the vote will be rushed just days before the president and some other members leave their office, leaving this poisoned legacy to their successors. It would have been much wiser to let the newly elected people decide for themselves according to their new mandate.
At this point it is already quite clear that there is very little support for this deal among FQE members. Do you believe Felix that the CA people should follow the FQE president or the FQE members they should represent ? I am curious to get your opinion on this.

Only one representative will be replaced for the 2012-2014 CA. It's not like if the entire board was going to change...

You might think it's clear that people don't like the agreement, but it's not true. Why would people go on Chesstalk and try to argue with you, all this to receive personal attacks? They prefer to simply send an email, or to call at the FQE, and congratulate the volunteers for their work. Maybe 1% of a thousand members publicly denounced the agreement, and it's pretty much the same people that always criticize everything.

I believe the CA should do what is best for chess in Quebec. No matter what you might think, I am convinced that the agreement is great for all the chess players in Quebec. Very few chess players really care about chess politics. They just want their representatives to ameliorate the services they can have access to. I am sure that our representatives will take the best decision with all the information they have.