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    Tournament Details have changed since the original flyer was issued for " The Battle of Toronto Invitational ", due to circumstances beyond our control. So here is the new flyer with the finalized information:

    THE BATTLE OF TORONTO INVITATIONAL

    - an 8-player FIDE Rating Round Robin Chess Tournament
    - organizer: Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ) ( Bob Armstrong )
    - tournament director: Alex Ferreira

    Day/Dates: Mondays –
    - October 15, 22, 29;
    - November 5, 12, 19, 26; December 3 ( one of these nights will be unavailable – to be confirmed )
    - Make-Up Dates: December 10, 17

    Location: Annex CC, 918 Bathurst St. ( north of the Bathurst Subway Station )

    Round Time: 7:30 p.m.

    Time Control: Game/90 ( this restricts our registrations to FIDE players under 2200 )

    Prize Fund: 1st - $ 150; 2nd - $ 80; 3rd - $ 60.

    Registration Fee: $ 60 ( payable by Sept 15; no refunds )
    Breakdown:

    Prize Fund - $ 30
    FIDE Rating Fee - $ 13
    Annex Site/Equipment Fee $ 10
    CFC Rating Fee - $ 3
    Tournament Director - $ 4
    Tournament organizer - $ 0

    Tie-Break: Head-to-head; Sonneborn-Berger

    Pre-registrations:

    FIDE-rated Pool – 1 ( + 1 to be confirmed )
    Non-FIDE-rated Pool - 4

    ( if more entries than places in the pool, entries to be allotted on basis of making tournament most competitive and allowing best chance for non-FIDE-rated players to get a FIDE “ Part Result “ - registration closes Friday, August 31 )

    Looking for more FIDE-rated Player Registrations – without 4 FIDE-rated players, tournament cannot go ahead!

    Registration: contact

    Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ) – canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com; or
    Bob Armstrong – bobarm@sympatico.ca

    Sponsors:

    Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ) – contribution to prize fund ( $ 50 ), and subsidizing TO fee ( $ 100 );
    Annex Chess Club – site/equipment fee subsidy ( $ 270 )
    Alex Ferreira – subsidizing TD fee ( $ 218 )

    NOTE: Allotment of places, if more registrations than places in the pool, will be made as soon after Aug. 31 ( entry deadline ) as possible.

    Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Bob Armstrong, Coordinator

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    Re: The Battle of Toronto Invitational - Pre-registered List

    1. Pre-registrations already accepted:

    FIDE-rated Players: Alex Ferreira – 1985 ( FIDE ) ; 2051 ( CFC )
    Non-FIDE-rated Players: Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778; Bob Armstrong – 1642 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 5 games )

    2. Pre-registrants in the “ Pools “:

    FIDE-rated Players: Tyler Longo - 1956( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC ).
    Non-FIDE-rated Players: Yinshi ( John ) Li 1985; Yanchun Zhao 1616

    The tournament is an “ Invitational “. The process we are following is that we are putting all new registrants from now to August 31 ( final day of registration ) into the pools – in effect, all registrations are “ conditional “ on final acceptance. If we just have enough to fill the places in the pool, then all the registrants get in. If there are more registrants than places in the pool, then we will choose which registrants to use to fill the vacancies, based on ratings that will make the tournament most competitive, and which give the non-FIDE-rated players the best chance to get a “ part result “.

    Looking for 2 more FIDE-rated players! Get some good competition, win some Elo points, and pick up a little spending money - seems like a good deal!! ( note: without 4 FIDE-rated players, the tournament cannot be registered with FIDE, nor FIDE-rated - in such case, it will not go head ).

    Canadian Chess Consulting Service, Bob Armstrong, Coordinator

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    • #3
      Re: Updated Pre-registered List - The Battle of Toronto Invitational -

      As of 5:00 PM, 12/8/21:

      1. Pre-registrations already accepted:

      FIDE-rated Players: Alex Ferreira – 1985 ( FIDE ) ; 2051 ( CFC )
      Non-FIDE-rated Players: Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778; Bob Armstrong – 1642 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 5 games )

      2. Pre-registrants in the “ Pools “:

      FIDE-rated Players: Master Michael Dougherty : 2149 ( FIDE ); 2275 ( CFC ); Tyler Longo - 1956 ( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC );

      Non-FIDE-rated Players: Yinshi ( John ) Li 1985; Yanchun Zhao 1616

      Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Bob Armstrong, Coordinator

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      • #4
        Re : The Battle of Toronto Invitational - Detail Changes

        So much effort for to get low FIDE ratings that will cost the CFC (I think it pays a fee for each rated player) and depress the whole field of FIDE ratings in Canada. For example look at Aman Hambleton's ridiculously low FIDE rating compared to his current strenght. Why is it so low ? Because like many youngsters he has had the misfortune to get a FIDE rating prematurely when he was still too young. Most promising young players are in the same situation (Joey Qin is another obvious case), stuck with low and slow moving FIDE ratings while they are actually much stronger. Conclusion : let's keep FIDE ratings for "strong" events where people can get decent FIDE ratings.

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        • #5
          Re: Re : The Battle of Toronto Invitational - Detail Changes

          Originally posted by Jean Hébert View Post
          So much effort for to get low FIDE ratings that will cost the CFC (I think it pays a fee for each rated player) and depress the whole field of FIDE ratings in Canada. For example look at Aman Hambleton's ridiculously low FIDE rating compared to his current strenght. Why is it so low ? Because like many youngsters he has had the misfortune to get a FIDE rating prematurely when he was still too young. Most promising young players are in the same situation (Joey Qin is another obvious case), stuck with low and slow moving FIDE ratings while they are actually much stronger. Conclusion : let's keep FIDE ratings for "strong" events where people can get decent FIDE ratings.
          This was exactly how I felt about CFC ratings too - many young kids get even 3-digit ratings and then spend a long time trying to have it catch up to their actual fast-improving skill. I'd like to think that is what happened to me <g> but it has been a long time since my initial cfc rating... I know the rating system has been tweaked somewhat, but once the provisional period is over there is a limit to how fast ratings can move - even if someone scores 5-0 in a club tourney.
          ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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          • #6
            Re : Re: Re : The Battle of Toronto Invitational - Detail Changes

            Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
            This was exactly how I felt about CFC ratings too - many young kids get even 3-digit ratings and then spend a long time trying to have it catch up to their actual fast-improving skill. I'd like to think that is what happened to me <g> but it has been a long time since my initial cfc rating... I know the rating system has been tweaked somewhat, but once the provisional period is over there is a limit to how fast ratings can move - even if someone scores 5-0 in a club tourney.
            FIDE ratings were originally meant for "international caliber" players (lower limit set at 2200) which as such had a certain amount of maturity in terms of chess development. There was no big need to have a fast moving system.
            National ratings such as the CFC's are meant for everybody which does not mean that some ajustments would be out of order to among other things deal with fast improving youngsters. However such ajustments might be unnecessary if FIDE ratings take over and all income from rating tournaments goes to FIDE... I wonder if canadian FIDE rated tournament organizers have understood that thus far.

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            • #7
              Pre-registered List as of 12/8/30 - The Battle of Toronto Invitational -

              Re: The Battle of Toronto Invitational - Pre-registered List as of 12/8/30

              Registration open to Monday!

              1. Pre-registrations already accepted:

              FIDE-rated Players: Alex Ferreira – 1985 ( FIDE ) ; 2051 ( CFC )
              Non-FIDE-rated Players: Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778; Bob Armstrong – 1642 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 5 games )

              2. Pre-registrants in the “ Pools “:

              FIDE-rated Players: Master Michael Dougherty : 2149 ( FIDE ); 2275 ( CFC ); Tyler Longo - 1956( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC ).

              Non-FIDE-rated Players: Marcus Wilker ( 1639 )

              The tournament is an “ Invitational “. The process we are following is that we are putting all new registrants from now to September 3 ( final day of registration ) into the pools – in effect, all registrations are “ conditional “ on final acceptance. If we just have enough to fill the places in the pool, then all the registrants get in. If there are more registrants than places in the pool, then we will choose which registrants to use to fill the vacancies, based on ratings that will make the tournament most competitive, and which give the non-FIDE-rated players the best chance to get a “ part result “.

              Looking for 2 more players, at least one of whom must be FIDE-rated ! For FIDE-rated players, get some good competition, win some Elo points, and pick up a little spending money - seems like a good deal!! ( note: without 4 FIDE-rated players, the tournament cannot be registered with FIDE, nor FIDE-rated - in such case, it will not go ahead ).

              Canadian Chess Consulting Service, Bob Armstrong, Coordinator
              Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Friday, 31st August, 2012, 03:04 AM.

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              • #8
                Pre-registered List as of 12/8/31 ( 8:00 AM ) - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                Pre-registrations to 12/8/31 ( 8:00 AM )

                Registration Open only to Monday!

                1. Pre-registrations already accepted:

                FIDE-rated Players:

                Alex Ferreira – 1985 ( FIDE ) ; 2051 ( CFC )

                Non-FIDE-rated Players:

                Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778;
                Bob Armstrong – 1642 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 5 games )

                2. Pre-registrants in the “ Pools “:

                FIDE-rated Players:

                Master Michael Dougherty : 2149 ( FIDE ); 2275 ( CFC )
                Master Mike Ivanov: 2050 ( FIDE ); 2270 ( CFC )
                Tyler Longo - 1956( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC );..

                Non-FIDE-rated Players:

                Marcus Wilker 1639


                The tournament is an “ Invitational “. The process we are following is that we are putting all registrants from now to September 3 ( final day of registration ) into the pools – in effect, all registrations are “ conditional “ on final acceptance. If we just have enough to fill the places in the pool, then all the registrants get in. If there are more registrants than places in the pool, then we will choose which registrants to use to fill the vacancies, based on ratings that will make the tournament most competitive, and which give the non-FIDE-rated players the best chance to get a “ part result “. Those not chosen will then be so advised.

                Needing one more player - either FIDE-rated or Non-FIDE-rated ( chance to start on getting a FIDE-rating! )

                Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Bob Armstrong, Coordinator

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                • #9
                  Pre-registration List - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                  Hi to " Battle " Registrants:

                  We closed registrations at Monday midnight as planned, and had less than the number we needed - we have 7, but need 8 ( # 8 can be either FIDE-rated or non-FIDE-rated ).

                  Alex Ferreira, as arbiter for the tournament ( and player ), and I, discussed what to do about the tournament. We decided to go ahead and register it with FIDE this week ( Alex, as arbiter, is looking after that task ). It apparently does not cost to register. And if by Oct. 15 we do not have the needed player, we will simply have to cancel the tournament, and de-register it with FIDE, which I assume also can be done at no charge, and without negative consequences. Alex will be speaking with Gerry Litchfield, CFC ED, and maybe he can confirm these two points with him.

                  Therefore, all pre-registrations have now been accepted, and all are in the tournament. Here are the 7 players so far:

                  FIDE-rated Players:

                  Master Michael Dougherty : 2149 ( FIDE ); 2275 ( CFC )
                  Master Mike Ivanov: 2050 ( FIDE ); 2270 ( CFC )
                  Alex Ferreira – 1985 ( FIDE ) ; 2051 ( CFC )
                  Tyler Longo - 1956( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC ).

                  Non-FIDE-rated Players:

                  Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778;
                  Bob Armstrong – 1642 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 6 games )
                  Marcus Wilker 1639

                  .....

                  So if you think someone might be interested, please approach them. The most recent flyer is attached ( see below ). The last entry will be on a " first come - first served " basis. The CFC rating must be 1600 or over; the FIDE rating cannot exceed 2199.

                  If anyone has any questions, let me know.

                  Thx, and I'm still hopeful of finding our last player.

                  Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS )/Bob

                  Current Flyer:

                  THE BATTLE OF TORONTO INVITATIONAL

                  - an 8-player FIDE Rating Round Robin Chess Tournament
                  - organizer: Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ) ( Bob Armstrong )
                  - tournament director: Alex Ferreira

                  Day/Dates: Mondays –
                  - October 15, 22, 29;
                  - November 5, 12, 19, 26; December 3 ( one of these nights will be unavailable – to be confirmed )
                  - Make-Up Dates: December 10, 17

                  Location: Annex CC, 918 Bathurst St. ( north of the Bathurst Subway Station )

                  Round Time: 7:30 p.m.

                  Time Control: Game/90 ( this restricts our registrations to FIDE players under 2200 )

                  Prize Fund: 1st - $ 150; 2nd - $ 80; 3rd - $ 60.

                  Registration Fee: $ 60 ( payable by Sept 15; no refunds )
                  Breakdown:
                  Prize Fund - $ 30
                  FIDE Rating Fee - $ 13
                  Annex Site/Equipment Fee $ 10
                  CFC Rating Fee - $ 3
                  Tournament Director - $ 4
                  Tournament organizer - $ 0

                  Tie-Break: Head-to-head; Sonneborn-Berger

                  Pre-registrations - Need 8 players ( as of 12:00 AM 12/9/4 ):

                  FIDE-rated – 4
                  Non-FIDE-rated – 3

                  1 more Player needed ( FIDE-rated or non-FIDE-rated ) - on a " first come - first served " basis now.

                  Registration: contact

                  Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ) – canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com; or
                  Bob Armstrong – bobarm@sympatico.ca

                  Sponsors: Canadian Chess Consulting Service – contribution to prize fund ( $ 50 ), and subsidizing TO fee ( $ 100 )
                  Annex Chess Club – site/equipment fee subsidy ( $ 270 )
                  Alex Ferreira – subsidizing TD fee ( $ 218 )

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                  • #10
                    : Back-up &quot; List - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                    Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ) has now registered the 8th and last player for The Battle of Toronto Invitational.

                    However, we are now preparing a back-up list. If you still would like to play, you can ask to be on this list, and if for some unexpected reason a registered player drops out before the tournament starts on October 15 ( life throws curves at us all the time ), then we will come to you first as a replacement. It will be on a " first come - first served " basis.

                    Contact: CCCS : canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com

                    Thx.

                    CCCS, Organizer/Bob Armstrong

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                    • #11
                      Updated Registration List ( 12/9/12 ) - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                      We have again had a change of registrants, and taken the # 1 player on the back-up list into the tournament. Here is the current registration ( tournament to start on Oct. 15 at Annex CC in Toronto ):

                      Registrations:

                      FIDE-rated Players:

                      Master Michael Dougherty : 2149 ( FIDE ); 2275 ( CFC )
                      Wajdy Shebetah: 2018 ( FIDE ); 2132 ( CFC )
                      Alex Ferreira – 1985 ( FIDE ) ; 2051 ( CFC )
                      Tyler Longo - 1956( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC )
                      Robert Bzikot – 1881 ( FIDE ); 1940 ( CFC )

                      Non-FIDE-rated Players:

                      Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778;
                      Bob Armstrong – 1652 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 6 games )
                      Zaki Uddin - 1631

                      We currently have again now, one player on the Back-up List ( to be confirmed ). We go to the back-up list in case of a withdrawal before Oct. 15. Getting onto the back-up list is on a first come-first served basis. If you would like to play in the tournament still, if possible, and would like to be # 2 on the Back-up List, please contact me at: canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com.

                      Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Organizer/Bob
                      Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Thursday, 13th September, 2012, 01:07 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Updated Registration List ( 12/9/18 ) - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                        We have again had a change of registrants, and taken the # 1 player on the back-up list into the tournament. Here is the current registration ( tournament to start on Oct. 15 at Annex CC in Toronto ):

                        Registrations:

                        FIDE-rated Players:

                        Master Michael Dougherty : 2149 ( FIDE ); 2275 ( CFC )
                        Wajdy Shebetah: 2018 ( FIDE ); 2132 ( CFC )
                        Tyler Longo - 1956( FIDE ); 2065 ( CFC )
                        Robert Bzikot – 1881 ( FIDE ); 1940 ( CFC )

                        Non-FIDE-rated Players:

                        Mario Moran-Venegas – 1778;
                        Bob Armstrong – 1652 ( has a FIDE Rating “ part result “ of 6 games )
                        Marcus Wilker - 1639
                        Zaki Uddin - 1631

                        So we now have noone on the Back-up List, We go to the back-up list in case of a withdrawal before Oct. 15. Getting onto the back-up list is on a first come-first served basis. If you would like to play in the tournament still, if possible, and would like to be # 1 on the Back-up List, please contact me at: canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com.

                        Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Organizer/Bob

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                        • #13
                          Re: Updated Back-up List ( 12/9/25 ) - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                          We have now had an application to go onto our " back-up " list and the person is # 1. He is Jonathan Farine: 1886 ( FIDE ); 1952 ( CFC ). We go to our back-up list if anyone should unexpectedly be forced to withdraw before Oct. 15 ( Rd. 1 ). It will be played at the Annex CC.

                          If you are interested in playing, we'd be glad to add you as # 2. Just contact me: canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com.

                          Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Tournament Organizer/Bob

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                          • #14
                            2nd Update to Back-up List ( 12/9/25 ) - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                            We now have a # 2 on the back-up list, which we go to if some player unexpectedly has to withdraw from the tournament. He is Peter Bokhout: no FIDE rating. CFC rating is 1951; USCF rating is 1936.

                            If you are still interested in playing, and want to be # 3 on the back-up list, please contact me: canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com.

                            Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Tournament Organizer / Bob

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                            • #15
                              Updated Back-up List ( 12/9/27 ) - The Battle of Toronto Invitational

                              We now have had # 1 on the back-up list withdraw; the back-up list is where we go to if some player unexpectedly has to withdraw from the tournament before Oct. 15 ( Rd. 1 ).

                              So # 1 on the back-up list is now Peter Bokhout: no FIDE rating. CFC rating is 1951; USCF rating is 1936.

                              If you are still interested in playing, and want to be # 2 on the back-up list, please contact me: canadianchessconsultingservice@gmail.com.

                              Canadian Chess Consulting Service ( CCCS ), Tournament Organizer / Bob

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